All-Ireland Final, September 18th, 2016 - Dublin v Mayo

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Jinxy

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 18, 2016, 07:22:36 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 18, 2016, 06:21:58 PM
O'Connor is most certainly a coward. As mentioned previously, he's a bad f**ker for sneaky hits off the ball. While he was hit a nasty wraparound by McAuley, it a only came after he tried to throw the shoulder in. He's a nasty little bollocks.

He led with his shoulder into lads from the front multiple times today. One thing Mayo get away with consistently is the complete inability or refusal to try and tackle the ball in the opposition's half. The amount of fouls the likes of the O'Sheas, O'Connors, Doherty and McLoughlin get away with is criminal. They just tot them up all game long without the referees doing anything about it.

I don't like O'Connor, good score at the end and showed guts to take it but he was fairly poor overall as he tends to be. He is always up at the referee yapping and trying to exaggerate things to get players sent off. He actually was pulling at the referee's arms and shoulders after Regan's dirty hit on McMahon late on.

Mayo should have won that, dominated the game from start to finish and had some real unfortunate things go against them but you simply must be winning those type of games when they are presented. Felt they may have missed their chance but they have shown once again they have the measure of Dublin if they can only get their heads right then it is there for them. Hard to see Dublin being as bad again the next day though.

Imagine if they were from Tyrone?
If you were any use you'd be playing.

lenny

Quote from: redzone on September 18, 2016, 07:36:55 PM
Gut wrenching watching Mayo today knowing that it should have been us out there today. Pity as Sam would have been heading north tomorrow

If you'd got your tactics right and not been so defensive you probably would've been there today. Not sure you would've been capable of putting it up to the Dubs like Mayo did.

Sportacus

As a neutral I have to say Mayo really do bring something brilliant to Croke Park.  They were some craic outside and literally on their knees inside in the last couple of minutes.  If they win Sam Maguire I honestly think it will be the greatest GAA moment in our lifetime.  But by God they put their fans through the ringer.

Il Bomber Destro

Quote from: lenny on September 18, 2016, 07:38:59 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 18, 2016, 07:22:36 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 18, 2016, 06:21:58 PM
O'Connor is most certainly a coward. As mentioned previously, he's a bad f**ker for sneaky hits off the ball. While he was hit a nasty wraparound by McAuley, it a only came after he tried to throw the shoulder in. He's a nasty little bollocks.

He led with his shoulder into lads from the front multiple times today. One thing Mayo get away with consistently is the complete inability or refusal to try and tackle the ball in the opposition's half. The amount of fouls the likes of the O'Sheas, O'Connors, Doherty and McLoughlin get away with is criminal. They just tot them up all game long without the referees doing anything about it.

I don't like O'Connor, good score at the end and showed guts to take it but he was fairly poor overall as he tends to be. He is always up at the referee yapping and trying to exaggerate things to get players sent off. He actually was pulling at the referee's arms and shoulders after Regan's dirty hit on McMahon late on.

Mayo should have won that, dominated the game from start to finish and had some real unfortunate things go against them but you simply must be winning those type of games when they are presented. Felt they may have missed their chance but they have shown once again they have the measure of Dublin if they can only get their heads right then it is there for them. Hard to see Dublin being as bad again the next day though.

Dublin certainly won't be as bad but Mayo have room for improvement also. They have improved steadily as the season has gone on. They were extremely average against Fermanagh and Tyrone, improved slightly v Tipp and took it up another level today. They made a lot of the Dublin players look ordinary. It was not a day for forwards though as seen in the minor game also. Kerry minors had scored 25+ times in each of their last 2 games but really struggled to get scores in the conditions today.

That was their best performance of the season.

They played a lot better against us than they did in the semi-final against Tipp. Mayo can improve but you'd expect Dublin have much more room to improve and you really need to be taking those type of opportunities when they come along.

Hard to know about Dublin. Should we read into that performance too much and are they beginning to wane? Flynn and Brogan look done and Dublin seem to be carrying both at the minute. Conditions were a big factor and were a bigger benefit to Mayo, IMO. Dublin have forwards who like to take their men on and change direction but the likes of Connolly and McManamon kept losing their feet today.

Jinxy

Mannion & Andrews will probably start the next day.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

imtommygunn

Quote from: Jinxy on September 18, 2016, 07:39:15 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 18, 2016, 07:22:36 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 18, 2016, 06:21:58 PM
O'Connor is most certainly a coward. As mentioned previously, he's a bad f**ker for sneaky hits off the ball. While he was hit a nasty wraparound by McAuley, it a only came after he tried to throw the shoulder in. He's a nasty little bollocks.

He led with his shoulder into lads from the front multiple times today. One thing Mayo get away with consistently is the complete inability or refusal to try and tackle the ball in the opposition's half. The amount of fouls the likes of the O'Sheas, O'Connors, Doherty and McLoughlin get away with is criminal. They just tot them up all game long without the referees doing anything about it.

I don't like O'Connor, good score at the end and showed guts to take it but he was fairly poor overall as he tends to be. He is always up at the referee yapping and trying to exaggerate things to get players sent off. He actually was pulling at the referee's arms and shoulders after Regan's dirty hit on McMahon late on.

Mayo should have won that, dominated the game from start to finish and had some real unfortunate things go against them but you simply must be winning those type of games when they are presented. Felt they may have missed their chance but they have shown once again they have the measure of Dublin if they can only get their heads right then it is there for them. Hard to see Dublin being as bad again the next day though.

Imagine if they were from Tyrone?

Regan's hit wasn't dirty. He went for the ball. It actually ended up a bad enough clash of heads. (It was Bastick). mcLoughlin rarely fouls too and Doherty not too much. O'Shea and O'Connor do though.

I would move Aidan to midfield and maybe drop Seamus. Aidan o'Shea is in danger of being the boy who cried wolf after his fermanagh dive this year. He probably should have got a few more fouls today but I think he is wasted in FF. Occasionally to mix it up maybe but not half the game.

Il Bomber Destro

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 18, 2016, 07:55:00 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on September 18, 2016, 07:39:15 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 18, 2016, 07:22:36 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 18, 2016, 06:21:58 PM
O'Connor is most certainly a coward. As mentioned previously, he's a bad f**ker for sneaky hits off the ball. While he was hit a nasty wraparound by McAuley, it a only came after he tried to throw the shoulder in. He's a nasty little bollocks.

He led with his shoulder into lads from the front multiple times today. One thing Mayo get away with consistently is the complete inability or refusal to try and tackle the ball in the opposition's half. The amount of fouls the likes of the O'Sheas, O'Connors, Doherty and McLoughlin get away with is criminal. They just tot them up all game long without the referees doing anything about it.

I don't like O'Connor, good score at the end and showed guts to take it but he was fairly poor overall as he tends to be. He is always up at the referee yapping and trying to exaggerate things to get players sent off. He actually was pulling at the referee's arms and shoulders after Regan's dirty hit on McMahon late on.

Mayo should have won that, dominated the game from start to finish and had some real unfortunate things go against them but you simply must be winning those type of games when they are presented. Felt they may have missed their chance but they have shown once again they have the measure of Dublin if they can only get their heads right then it is there for them. Hard to see Dublin being as bad again the next day though.

Imagine if they were from Tyrone?

Regan's hit wasn't dirty. He went for the ball. It actually ended up a bad enough clash of heads. (It was Bastick). mcLoughlin rarely fouls too and Doherty not too much. O'Shea and O'Connor do though.

I would move Aidan to midfield and maybe drop Seamus. Aidan o'Shea is in danger of being the boy who cried wolf after his fermanagh dive this year. He probably should have got a few more fouls today but I think he is wasted in FF. Occasionally to mix it up maybe but not half the game.

Turning your shoulder into the front of a player who is carrying the ball is not going for the ball, it's a dirty hit.

lynchbhoy

dubs caught in their own hype about forward play from the last game.

dubs smaller and we're second best today on a wet ball and pitch

dublin manager tactically caught out today. Dean rock should have been replaced after 10 mins as he obv wasn't up to it and almost cost dublin the game

whoever coached dublin forwards needs replaced as they were anonymous and made feck all runs to offer themselves to colleagues with possession out the field

ref was to be honest poor enough and dublin had shouts for freed ignored while similar mayo situations were blown. same for black/yellow cards.

Rochford proved he was tactically head and shoulders above dublin mgt. two own goals cost his side the all Ireland.

Dean rock and brogan will be lucky to start next day.

a dry day and impartial ref will help dublin. but suspect Rochford will outwit them again next day.

Greg Maher RIP



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imtommygunn

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 18, 2016, 07:57:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 18, 2016, 07:55:00 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on September 18, 2016, 07:39:15 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 18, 2016, 07:22:36 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 18, 2016, 06:21:58 PM
O'Connor is most certainly a coward. As mentioned previously, he's a bad f**ker for sneaky hits off the ball. While he was hit a nasty wraparound by McAuley, it a only came after he tried to throw the shoulder in. He's a nasty little bollocks.

He led with his shoulder into lads from the front multiple times today. One thing Mayo get away with consistently is the complete inability or refusal to try and tackle the ball in the opposition's half. The amount of fouls the likes of the O'Sheas, O'Connors, Doherty and McLoughlin get away with is criminal. They just tot them up all game long without the referees doing anything about it.

I don't like O'Connor, good score at the end and showed guts to take it but he was fairly poor overall as he tends to be. He is always up at the referee yapping and trying to exaggerate things to get players sent off. He actually was pulling at the referee's arms and shoulders after Regan's dirty hit on McMahon late on.

Mayo should have won that, dominated the game from start to finish and had some real unfortunate things go against them but you simply must be winning those type of games when they are presented. Felt they may have missed their chance but they have shown once again they have the measure of Dublin if they can only get their heads right then it is there for them. Hard to see Dublin being as bad again the next day though.

Imagine if they were from Tyrone?

Regan's hit wasn't dirty. He went for the ball. It actually ended up a bad enough clash of heads. (It was Bastick). mcLoughlin rarely fouls too and Doherty not too much. O'Shea and O'Connor do though.

I would move Aidan to midfield and maybe drop Seamus. Aidan o'Shea is in danger of being the boy who cried wolf after his fermanagh dive this year. He probably should have got a few more fouls today but I think he is wasted in FF. Occasionally to mix it up maybe but not half the game.

Turning your shoulder into the front of a player who is carrying the ball is not going for the ball, it's a dirty hit.

That wasn't a dirty hit.

Impartial ref... sure macauley should have been off. Yeah so should O'Connor but if he wasn't impartial macauley would have gone!! He wasn't great but he was certainly impartial. For every free dublin could have had aidan o'shea could have had one

Kurtz

Quote from: lynchbhoy on September 18, 2016, 07:58:11 PM
dubs caught in their own hype about forward play from the last game.

dubs smaller and we're second best today on a wet ball and pitch

dublin manager tactically caught out today. Dean rock should have been replaced after 10 mins as he obv wasn't up to it and almost cost dublin the game

whoever coached dublin forwards needs replaced as they were anonymous and made feck all runs to offer themselves to colleagues with possession out the field

ref was to be honest poor enough and dublin had shouts for freed ignored while similar mayo situations were blown. same for black/yellow cards.

Rochford proved he was tactically head and shoulders above dublin mgt. two own goals cost his side the all Ireland.

Dean rock and brogan will be lucky to start next day.

a dry day and impartial ref will help dublin. but suspect Rochford will outwit them again next day.

Greg Maher RIP

Dublin were laid back as were the fans going in to the ground
They will kick on now

Erne Man

Strangely enjoyable game despite the poor quality - particularly in the second half. For me Mayo should have been further in front before the comedy sketch began as they missed a serious amount of chances, with the last pass either being a poor one or the correct pass not spotted. Seamus O'Shea gives away a savage amount of ball in big games, and Kevin McLoughlin the same type of frustrating head-down type of player. Lee Keegan didn't get into the game in attacking sense and Mayo were the poorer for it. Aidan O'Shea continues to abandon Mayo in the big games, and his effort st the end was shocking.
Dubs were poor and can't see them being as bad again. None of the forwards got into the game - a credit to the Mayo defence and the pressure being put on out the field. Would love to see them start Connolly in midfield, and drop McAuley for Andrews in the replay. Would be tough to scapegoat McManamin on today's performance where nothing clicked.
I'm no psychologist but there is a big mental gap between not knowing when you are beaten, and knowing when you can win. Unfortunately Mayo continue to fall into the former, and for that reason I fancy Dublin in the replay.

JoG2

Quote from: Erne Man on September 18, 2016, 08:14:32 PM
Strangely enjoyable game despite the poor quality - particularly in the second half. For me Mayo should have been further in front before the comedy sketch began as they missed a serious amount of chances, with the last pass either being a poor one or the correct pass not spotted. Seamus O'Shea gives away a savage amount of ball in big games, and Kevin McLoughlin the same type of frustrating head-down type of player. Lee Keegan didn't get into the game in attacking sense and Mayo were the poorer for it. Aidan O'Shea continues to abandon Mayo in the big games, and his effort st the end was shocking.
Dubs were poor and can't see them being as bad again. None of the forwards got into the game - a credit to the Mayo defence and the pressure being put on out the field. Would love to see them start Connolly in midfield, and drop McAuley for Andrews in the replay. Would be tough to scapegoat McManamin on today's performance where nothing clicked.
I'm no psychologist but there is a big mental gap between not knowing when you are beaten, and knowing when you can win. Unfortunately Mayo continue to fall into the former, and for that reason I fancy Dublin in the replay.

He had arguably the best player in the country in his back pocket and started off countless attacks... Not a bad days work!

seafoid

All of the pundits I read this weekend were sure the Dubs would win. I can't remember which one mentioned all the players the team lost - including McCaffrey and O'Carroll - and what a sign of a great team it was that they did so well without them. But maybe they don't.

ONeill

Flip I enjoyed every second of that. Mayo kept Dublin scoreless from play for the first 33 mins. Heart breaking it meant nothing.
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I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Il Bomber Destro

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 18, 2016, 08:03:18 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 18, 2016, 07:57:25 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 18, 2016, 07:55:00 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on September 18, 2016, 07:39:15 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 18, 2016, 07:22:36 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 18, 2016, 06:21:58 PM
O'Connor is most certainly a coward. As mentioned previously, he's a bad f**ker for sneaky hits off the ball. While he was hit a nasty wraparound by McAuley, it a only came after he tried to throw the shoulder in. He's a nasty little bollocks.

He led with his shoulder into lads from the front multiple times today. One thing Mayo get away with consistently is the complete inability or refusal to try and tackle the ball in the opposition's half. The amount of fouls the likes of the O'Sheas, O'Connors, Doherty and McLoughlin get away with is criminal. They just tot them up all game long without the referees doing anything about it.

I don't like O'Connor, good score at the end and showed guts to take it but he was fairly poor overall as he tends to be. He is always up at the referee yapping and trying to exaggerate things to get players sent off. He actually was pulling at the referee's arms and shoulders after Regan's dirty hit on McMahon late on.

Mayo should have won that, dominated the game from start to finish and had some real unfortunate things go against them but you simply must be winning those type of games when they are presented. Felt they may have missed their chance but they have shown once again they have the measure of Dublin if they can only get their heads right then it is there for them. Hard to see Dublin being as bad again the next day though.

Imagine if they were from Tyrone?

Regan's hit wasn't dirty. He went for the ball. It actually ended up a bad enough clash of heads. (It was Bastick). mcLoughlin rarely fouls too and Doherty not too much. O'Shea and O'Connor do though.

I would move Aidan to midfield and maybe drop Seamus. Aidan o'Shea is in danger of being the boy who cried wolf after his fermanagh dive this year. He probably should have got a few more fouls today but I think he is wasted in FF. Occasionally to mix it up maybe but not half the game.

Turning your shoulder into the front of a player who is carrying the ball is not going for the ball, it's a dirty hit.

That wasn't a dirty hit.

Impartial ref... sure macauley should have been off. Yeah so should O'Connor but if he wasn't impartial macauley would have gone!! He wasn't great but he was certainly impartial. For every free dublin could have had aidan o'shea could have had one

Turning your shoulder into a guy is the definition of a dirty hit and is extremely dangerous.