Dublin V Kerry 28/08/16 3.30pm RTE/SKY.

[ashman]

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/dr-ed-coughlan-either-get-with-the-times-like-dublin-or-get-left-behind-418423.html


Interesting piece .   

[Hound]

With him living and working in Dublin though, it probably was a bad decision to give him this semi final.

The living and working in Dublin isn't a genuine complaint is it?

If Seamie O'Shea misses a glorious opportunity to win the All Ireland in 3 weeks, are people going to say - "What was Rochford doing picking a lad who lives and works in Dublin to play against the Dubs?".

Gough, being a GAA person in Meath, would most likely have grown up hating the Dubs!

But as an adult "professional" ref, it's ridiculous to suggest he would be biased based on supporting Dublin's rival (back then anyway) or based on where he now might live.

[Fuzzman]

Yeah very interesting article and explains why the richer counties are pulling away from the others as they are becoming more and more professional.
Athletic players can only do so much but it's when you take talented footballers and make them more athletic is when you end up with a team like Dublin.

Brolly harps on recently about how Dublin are just allowed to play enjoyable attacking football and players allowed to express themselves which is true but there is so much more behind the scenes. High levels of fitness, strength & conditioning, having an excellent subs bench to get you over the line are all important factors now that are making Dublin very hard to beat.

3 points downs with 10 mins to go they calmly played like the did all game and trusted themselves to create the chances and kick the scores. Years ago the old Dublin teams would have crumbled under the pressure but with all the sports science experience they have sampled now they are made of sterner stuff.

Hound, as someone else asked, would you have been happy with a Cork ref working and living in Killarney, especially when he awarded that second goal and booked McMahon.

https://twitter.com/IanGalvinNYGAA/status/770243752711553024/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[Rossfan]

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/dr-ed-coughlan-either-get-with-the-times-like-dublin-or-get-left-behind-418423.html


Interesting piece .

So can we expect the new Leitrim manager to simply implement a load of sports science stuff and win Connacht next year?
Maybe the Bush Hotel might find half a million € to employ all these experts?
Maybe we can continue to keep our GAA heads buried in sand and expect 30,000 to compete with 1,300,000+

Maybe we can limit the AI series to the 4 Provincial Champions and 4 highest NFL teams and dump the rest to fcuk out of the way.

[screenexile]

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/dr-ed-coughlan-either-get-with-the-times-like-dublin-or-get-left-behind-418423.html


Interesting piece .

So can we expect the new Leitrim manager to simply implement a load of sports science stuff and win Connacht next year?
Maybe the Bush Hotel might find half a million € to employ all these experts?
Maybe we can continue to keep our GAA heads buried in sand and expect 30,000 to compete with 1,300,000+

Maybe we can limit the AI series to the 4 Provincial Champions and 4 highest NFL teams and dump the rest to fcuk out of the way.

That's not what he's saying... he's saying it takes the right person to be able to use all these things to a teams advantage to help them perform better on the pitch. Dublin have always had these advantages but Gavin is the one who has utilised them the best.

It's not like plenty of other teams don't have all the same luxuries either!

You don't think Leitrim have Physios/S&C coaching or a fitness trainer?

[Jinxy]

In every county now you are tripping over lads with sports science qualifications.
They should be involved in a centralised, GAA-specific, 'train-the-trainer' programme.
Whatever about financial resources, it should be possible to develop a strong S&C knowledge base within each county and reduce the reliance on spoofers getting paid over the odds for copied & pasted rugby programmes.

[The Aristocrat]

Lot of ignorance of our games on this site, looks to me that not many here played at a high level. A lot of crap talk.

Sad to see so many people going on and on about some of the decisions made again , like last year, its a common theme when Dublin play, people hate to see them win. The Ref did good, let the game flow as much as he could, got some calls wrong from both teams but overall very positive. People over analyse incidents driven by clickbait sites like Balls.ie and Joe.ie, slowing it down to the millisecond and post them up dozens of time to stir it. Championship is tough, sh!t happens, calls go for you, calls go against you.

Fair play for both teams on Sunday, both gave it everything and the greatest footballing side of all time came out the better. Total football by the Dubs.  Onto Mayo who could spring and upset if things go right for them.

[Jinxy]

Lot of ignorance of our games on this site, looks to me that not many here played at a high level. A lot of crap talk.

Sad to see so many people going on and on about some of the decisions made again , like last year, its a common theme when Dublin play, people hate to see them win. The Ref did good, let the game flow as much as he could, got some calls wrong from both teams but overall very positive. People over analyse incidents driven by clickbait sites like Balls.ie and Joe.ie, slowing it down to the millisecond and post them up dozens of time to stir it. Championship is tough, sh!t happens, calls go for you, calls go against you.

Fair play for both teams on Sunday, both gave it everything and the greatest footballing side of all time came out the better. Total football by the Dubs.  Onto Mayo who could spring and upset if things go right for them.

Leave Indiana out of this.

[The Aristocrat]

Yeah very interesting article and explains why the richer counties are pulling away from the others as they are becoming more and more professional.
Athletic players can only do so much but it's when you take talented footballers and make them more athletic is when you end up with a team like Dublin.

Brolly harps on recently about how Dublin are just allowed to play enjoyable attacking football and players allowed to express themselves which is true but there is so much more behind the scenes. High levels of fitness, strength & conditioning, having an excellent subs bench to get you over the line are all important factors now that are making Dublin very hard to beat.

3 points downs with 10 mins to go they calmly played like the did all game and trusted themselves to create the chances and kick the scores. Years ago the old Dublin teams would have crumbled under the pressure but with all the sports science experience they have sampled now they are made of sterner stuff.

Hound, as someone else asked, would you have been happy with a Cork ref working and living in Killarney, especially when he awarded that second goal and booked McMahon.

https://twitter.com/IanGalvinNYGAA/status/770243752711553024/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

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What a joke of a twitter post. 1998. Stop sending refs to Dublin to work will you please. Thanks.

Your other statement is also ignorant and not factual. These Dublin players are naturally gifted footballers first, then naturally gift athletes. 5 of the players fathers played for Dublin, that's were is must have come from, Duirmuids father and Uncle were hurlers from Kilkenny etc, Duirmud Connolly could kick ball accurately over the bar off both feet when he was 8 years old. As O Rourke said, you cant train the Donkey to win the derby.

This Dublin team is the greatest of all time, get over it.

[JoG2]

Lot of ignorance of our games on this site, looks to me that not many here played at a high level. A lot of crap talk.

Sad to see so many people going on and on about some of the decisions made again , like last year, its a common theme when Dublin play, people hate to see them win. The Ref did good, let the game flow as much as he could, got some calls wrong from both teams but overall very positive. People over analyse incidents driven by clickbait sites like Balls.ie and Joe.ie, slowing it down to the millisecond and post them up dozens of time to stir it. Championship is tough, sh!t happens, calls go for you, calls go against you.

Fair play for both teams on Sunday, both gave it everything and the greatest footballing side of all time came out the better. Total football by the Dubs.  Onto Mayo who could spring and upset if things go right for them.

I've nothing but admiration for the way both counties play the game and on Sunday they served up a great battle. Gough did get a lot more right than wrong and let the game go for the most part however, imo Kerry had to work a lot harder for frees in the 2nd half, esp in the scoring zone

[yellowcard]

Yeah very interesting article and explains why the richer counties are pulling away from the others as they are becoming more and more professional.
Athletic players can only do so much but it's when you take talented footballers and make them more athletic is when you end up with a team like Dublin.

Brolly harps on recently about how Dublin are just allowed to play enjoyable attacking football and players allowed to express themselves which is true but there is so much more behind the scenes. High levels of fitness, strength & conditioning, having an excellent subs bench to get you over the line are all important factors now that are making Dublin very hard to beat.

3 points downs with 10 mins to go they calmly played like the did all game and trusted themselves to create the chances and kick the scores. Years ago the old Dublin teams would have crumbled under the pressure but with all the sports science experience they have sampled now they are made of sterner stuff.

Hound, as someone else asked, would you have been happy with a Cork ref working and living in Killarney, especially when he awarded that second goal and booked McMahon.

https://twitter.com/IanGalvinNYGAA/status/770243752711553024/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

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What a joke of a twitter post. 1998. Stop sending refs to Dublin to work will you please. Thanks.

Your other statement is also ignorant and not factual. These Dublin players are naturally gifted footballers first, then naturally gift athletes. 5 of the players fathers played for Dublin, that's were is must have come from, Duirmuids father and Uncle were hurlers from Kilkenny etc, Duirmud Connolly could kick ball accurately over the bar off both feet when he was 8 years old. As O Rourke said, you cant train the Donkey to win the derby.

This Dublin team is the greatest of all time, get over it.

Not for me they are not...........at least not yet. They are definitely the best i've seen though as I don't remember the Kerry team that won 8 AI titles in 12 seasons. Though it was a different era, I think Dublin have a bit to go yet before they can be considered better than that side. That said, but for a smash and grab raid by Donegal in 2014 we are looking at a probable 4 in a row side here. These things sometimes only become clearer in hindsight, but that win for Donegal was the only blip for this Dublin side since Gavin took charge. But for that defeat he would be going for 4 in a row titles in both League and Championship. It also was their last defeat in league or championship. A phenomenal record of consistency.

[AZOffaly]

Mayo must be loving all this talk.

[Fuzzman]

That's what I said you twit. "when you take talented footballers and make them more athletic".

I agree Gough did well on Sunday and let the game flow which made it a good spectacle.
Of course he missed a few things and got some calls wrong but what I'm saying is the GAA should know better to put someone in that position who is involved with a club in Dublin and isn't it typical then that the man who caused the foul  he probably knows from the same club. It just gives the Kerry team and fans something to complain about.
Who was the ref last year between the two teams?

[Jinxy]

If Gough is compromised what's 'Dublin Joe' McQuillan's excuse?

[The Aristocrat]

Mayo must be loving all this talk.

I think the days of the yeerraism is gone, a bit of talk on a GAA forum wont affect either players attitude or mental preparation.

Kerry media mafia should remember that.

Fuzzman, I get what your saying but to me they are, the modern era is different from the drinkers and smokers back in the 70s and 80s. To beat the professionals from Kerry 5 or 6 times in the last few years and everyone else like Mayo who are just as fit and conditioned as the Dubs etc.

Anyway, back to back in the ultimate, if Dublin do it I can rest easy for a few years.