Tír Eoghain vs Maigh Eo AIQF 6/8/2016

[Norf Tyrone]

The ball has to be live for a free/ pen  to be awarded.

However a card can be given if applicable.

[bridgegael]

The ball has to be live for a free/ pen  to be awarded.

However a card can be given if applicable.

Nearly sure Sean cavanagh got awarded a free in last minute v Down couple of years back when ball wasn't in play.

[From the Bunker]

How many fouls did Aidan O'Shea make yesterday?

Mayo players seem to try and apply an awful lot of pressure on the referees, O'Shea, Boyle and O'Connor are particularly vocal and in the referees face over any flashpoint or foul - very much like Barcelona/Spain in soccer they try and apply an awful lot of pressure on the referees.

Gough did a decent job overall but he didn't discourage the cynical Mayo fouling high up the field, it's very obvious that the likes of O'Shea, Parsons, Doherty, Moran, O'Connor etc can't tackle and make very little effort to tackle the ball, it's all about swinging lads around the hips, putting their hand in over the shoulder and pulling the arm back. It's all about disrupting the momentum of the player moving forward with the ball in an illegal manner and while Gough did play the advantage, these incidents were happening again and again and again without punishment for the player. Mayo have been doing this for years but nothing has been made of it.

In the Dublin-Donegal game it was also very evident of the cynical checking and infringing of Ryan McHugh off the ball all day long, again this was happening right in front of the referee and he did nothing to discourage it.

We have done the nice guy gig! It made us popular, but there was no end product. There probably won't be any end product out of this but at least we're eating at the top table consistently and nobody wants to play us. You see, As you well know it's up to the Referee to deal with controlling a game. If everybody played by the rules there would be no need for a referee.

You know how you're under 21's bullied Tipp and the Rossies last year. Well ye met the equivalent in Senior. This is how you get bullied! And just how you expected the Rossies to take it on the chin, you have now got to do the same. You see you can't have it both ways!

[Wildweasel74]

Seen the Cavanagh incident now, def yellow card  and all of Monaghan rejoyce, but it hilarious to see the big man O`Shea look for a card after his diving efforts against Fermanagh a while back, same as Donegal with Connolly waving  cards too, between that and all the sledging, football has really hit the gutter past few years. how about managers take some responsibility for the behaviour of their players and try bring some respect back into gaelic football.  On another issue, Dermot Connolly should seen 2 black cards now 2 games running.

[Jinxy]

Have there ever been so many good ball-playing wing-backs around?
Harte & Keegan are a joy to watch.

[BennyHarp]

Have there ever been so many good ball-playing wing-backs around?
Harte & Keegan are a joy to watch.

Ryan McHugh is some operator too!

[An Watcher]

Just after watching the Sunday Game. Tyrone can't have any excuses with some of those misses. Really disappointing.
On a brighter note thought sludden, donnelly and harte were fantastic.

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

Just after watching the Sunday Game. Tyrone can't have any excuses with some of those misses. Really disappointing.

Agreed, had the chances but weren't good enough to take them on the day -- frustrating after having carved them out.

Mayo have that mean edge now, but they'll need to be a little more clinical for the remainder, if they're to finally put the '51 nonsense to bed (which I hope they do)!

[From the Bunker]

Have there ever been so many good ball-playing wing-backs around?
Harte & Keegan are a joy to watch.

Ryan McHugh is some operator too!

Yes. Lacks the muscle of Harte or Keegan. But sure makes up for it in other ways. Harte is only coming into his prime!

[moysider]

Cavanagh has got many a man carded in the past with diving antics so yesterday seemed a case of just desserts, maybe if Tyrone all played football like Peter Harte and Mattie Donnelly instead of mouthing like McMahon, McCarron, McNamee constantly maybe Tyrone would go somewhere. Donegal with the McGee`s be in the same boat too

Problem with the manager who must condone this behaviour cause hes the only one can eradicate it. The negative system Tyrone brings to the table also plays against them as it holding very good footballers back, Meyler must be way of the pace, cause he should been coming on yesterday.

Would agree with most of that, however thought a draw would have been a fair result yesterday. Can't believe Dillion and Moran still get starts for Mayo, its a poor reflection of their forwards. If Tipp play their usual game, would have a fancy for them.

Why is it wrong to start a 32 and 33 year old? Andy is playing his best football for years so should be dropped for being 32? Ageist much?

Moran is still making the same mistakes he did 10 years ago. Running down blind alleys and taking too much out of the ball. He got away with it yesterday but won't when it counts

We didn't watch the same game. Moran was class against one of the toughest defensive systems in the game. Moran is highly intelligent and makes other players play better. Will play a huge part if we are to get over the line.

If you could give Dillon and Moran leg transplants you'd have a serious forward line.

Nah. Andy much better player now than 10 years ago. Nearly as good as when he did the knee in 2012.
Dillon never was about pace anyway.
But if people want to go with the calendar approach to rating players let them off.

[ZeitChrist]

Post-match analysis is even hard. Tyrone had plenty of chances to win it but yet Mayo were the better team: stronger midfield, big players had big games, experience/cuteness.

Tyrone will be disappointed at the missed chances but I still don't think they have refined their forward play enough yet. This was evident in the Ulster final too where their shots and decision making up front was poor to say the least and Sean Cavanagh ended up getting them out of jail. They could have easily lost that match. The lack of a real free-taker is also very problematic. They desperately need a Cillian O'Connor. Matches are often won and lost on frees especially the deeper you get into the business end of the championship. Tyrone won't win an All-Ireland without a consistent free-taker.
Looking at it overall I thought Mayo were the better team. They were just more clinical in front of the posts and worked hard throughout. The management got it very right as well. The whole team looked very hungry for the win and seemed genuinely relieved at the end. Physically they were the much more imposing side too. At one point I saw O'Shea in full forward with the Tyrone full back and the height disparity alone was almost comical. One gripe I do have is with the fannying about at the end with the passing the ball back and forth. That's kamikaze stuff and could have back fired badly if Tyrone's shooting wasn't so terrible.

[omaghjoe]

Cavanagh has got many a man carded in the past with diving antics so yesterday seemed a case of just desserts, maybe if Tyrone all played football like Peter Harte and Mattie Donnelly instead of mouthing like McMahon, McCarron, McNamee constantly maybe Tyrone would go somewhere. Donegal with the McGee`s be in the same boat too

Problem with the manager who must condone this behaviour cause hes the only one can eradicate it. The negative system Tyrone brings to the table also plays against them as it holding very good footballers back, Meyler must be way of the pace, cause he should been coming on yesterday.

Would agree with most of that, however thought a draw would have been a fair result yesterday. Can't believe Dillion and Moran still get starts for Mayo, its a poor reflection of their forwards. If Tipp play their usual game, would have a fancy for them.

Why is it wrong to start a 32 and 33 year old? Andy is playing his best football for years so should be dropped for being 32? Ageist much?

Moran is still making the same mistakes he did 10 years ago. Running down blind alleys and taking too much out of the ball. He got away with it yesterday but won't when it counts

We didn't watch the same game. Moran was class against one of the toughest defensive systems in the game. Moran is highly intelligent and makes other players play better. Will play a huge part if we are to get over the line.

If you could give Dillon and Moran leg transplants you'd have a serious forward line.

Nah. Andy much better player now than 10 years ago. Nearly as good as when he did the knee in 2012.
Dillon never was about pace anyway.
But if people want to go with the calendar approach to rating players let them off.

He was very good in 2012 seriously unfortunate to get that injury at the peak ofhis career, but  has shown seriously resolve to get back into the team

[Syferus]

Cavanagh has got many a man carded in the past with diving antics so yesterday seemed a case of just desserts, maybe if Tyrone all played football like Peter Harte and Mattie Donnelly instead of mouthing like McMahon, McCarron, McNamee constantly maybe Tyrone would go somewhere. Donegal with the McGee`s be in the same boat too

Problem with the manager who must condone this behaviour cause hes the only one can eradicate it. The negative system Tyrone brings to the table also plays against them as it holding very good footballers back, Meyler must be way of the pace, cause he should been coming on yesterday.

Would agree with most of that, however thought a draw would have been a fair result yesterday. Can't believe Dillion and Moran still get starts for Mayo, its a poor reflection of their forwards. If Tipp play their usual game, would have a fancy for them.

Why is it wrong to start a 32 and 33 year old? Andy is playing his best football for years so should be dropped for being 32? Ageist much?

Moran is still making the same mistakes he did 10 years ago. Running down blind alleys and taking too much out of the ball. He got away with it yesterday but won't when it counts

We didn't watch the same game. Moran was class against one of the toughest defensive systems in the game. Moran is highly intelligent and makes other players play better. Will play a huge part if we are to get over the line.

If you could give Dillon and Moran leg transplants you'd have a serious forward line.

Nah. Andy much better player now than 10 years ago. Nearly as good as when he did the knee in 2012.
Dillon never was about pace anyway.
But if people want to go with the calendar approach to rating players let them off.

People here take turns calling Andy selfish for a few odd kicks but he's the special kind of eejit that will stick with his team for as long as he can offer anything of value to the effort. Seanie is the same way.

[rrhf]

Agreed Andys commitment to the Mayo cause has been immense.

[highorlow]

Congrats to the management and team and also to the small backroom team we have at our disposal.

The management in particular have to come in for top marks after this result.

Playing Dillion (who picked up plenty of ball in the middle early on) instead of Keane was a master stroke that rendered Justin MacMahon's role defunct. McMahon was taken off after 25 mins.