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J70

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Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« Reply #9540 on: June 23, 2017, 01:52:53 PM »
GOP in the Senate have come up with their own health reform . Political suicide. Once they lose the Midterms the impeachment can start. Trump is a fool.

I wouldn't be so sure of myself if I was you

It's not like the new bill is replacing a great bill or even a good bill. It's replacing an absolute cluster fvck of a bill that's collapsing in on top of itself daily


I'm sure some people's will lose coverage but under the old bill "it was the craziest thing ever. People humping it 60 hours a week....their payments have doubled and their coverage has been cut in half"-Bill Clinton

So where is the "we are going to cover more people with tremendous plans for much less money" proposal Trump promised us?

You think a return to the before-Obamacare status quo of bare bones plans which resulted in people losing houses and going bankrupt or forgoing care altogether is going to be better?

I listened to a woman in Tennessee the other morning on NPR who was getting free dental care at a government-funded free weekend clinic. This woman couldn't afford to get regular dental care and had lost all of her upper teeth (she was 27). She was a keen Trump supporter. She was confident that he would pass some kind of legislation that would allow her to afford regular medical and dental care. But she absolutely rejected that government would have ANY role in the process. No details forthcoming from her about how that would work, but she was confident that there were people who were "smarter than her" (her words) who would come up with something.

Are these people for f**king real?

People need to decide whether the poor and sick and less fortunate are going to be cut loose and forgotten, or if society is going to all pitch in and help them with proper care, including preventative care. You can't have it both ways, especially in a system like the US.

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Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« Reply #9541 on: June 23, 2017, 03:02:05 PM »
The situation before Obamacare was unacceptable

Democrats can say stick their heads in the sand and extoll the virtues of Obamacare but the reality is that it has led to their annihilation at the polls during the past several elections

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/Felsenthal-Files/November-2013/Obama-Should-Have-Listened-to-the-Emanuel-Brothers-About-Obamacare/

I'm sure the new Republican plan won't be any great shakes either

I'm beginning to think it's like the gun control debate....really no workable solution


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Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« Reply #9542 on: June 23, 2017, 04:53:00 PM »
GOP in the Senate have come up with their own health reform . Political suicide. Once they lose the Midterms the impeachment can start. Trump is a fool.

I wouldn't be so sure of myself if I was you

It's not like the new bill is replacing a great bill or even a good bill. It's replacing an absolute cluster fvck of a bill that's collapsing in on top of itself daily


I'm sure some people's will lose coverage but under the old bill "it was the craziest thing ever. People humping it 60 hours a week....their payments have doubled and their coverage has been cut in half"-Bill Clinton

So where is the "we are going to cover more people with tremendous plans for much less money" proposal Trump promised us?

You think a return to the before-Obamacare status quo of bare bones plans which resulted in people losing houses and going bankrupt or forgoing care altogether is going to be better?

I listened to a woman in Tennessee the other morning on NPR who was getting free dental care at a government-funded free weekend clinic. This woman couldn't afford to get regular dental care and had lost all of her upper teeth (she was 27). She was a keen Trump supporter. She was confident that he would pass some kind of legislation that would allow her to afford regular medical and dental care. But she absolutely rejected that government would have ANY role in the process. No details forthcoming from her about how that would work, but she was confident that there were people who were "smarter than her" (her words) who would come up with something.

Are these people for f**king real?

People need to decide whether the poor and sick and less fortunate are going to be cut loose and forgotten, or if society is going to all pitch in and help them with proper care, including preventative care. You can't have it both ways, especially in a system like the US.
Health crises drIve an awful lot of bankruptcies in the US.
The GOP will crucify their own voters. WTF.
Last of the choc-ices there now