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Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
« Reply #285 on: April 30, 2019, 03:46:31 PM »
Enjoyed it, thought it portrayed the chaos pretty well. However still felt somewhat unsatisfied, the ending of the Night King seemed contradictory to his abilities and annoyed me a bit as did all the major players surviving....still bloody hooked though...

Him surviving the dragon fire surprised me I must say although as with you I expected a few bigger names to be cut down at least one of the Starks and a Lannister!

The Melisandre thing confused me why was she coming from the North where had she been?

Her contributions were a bit lame too - although the lighting (and extinguishing) of the sword of the Dhotraki hoards made for a great scene - it didn't help them very much in the battle and lighting the trench only held the wights back for about 5 mins...but i suppose she did give an important pep talk to Arya.

I thought the death of the Night King was good. There was quite a few important points in that scene, the significance of the knife, stabbing him in the heart - the only place that would kill him,  Arya dropping and catching the knife like she had done in her spar with Brienne. The Night King could only really be killed in some sort of ambush - it would have been too corny for Jon Snow or anyone else to beat him in a one to one battle as he clearly had too many skills. I just wonder what his ZZ top tribute band of generals were doing when Arya sneaked up on him.

Could she have been one of them??!!

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« Reply #286 on: April 30, 2019, 04:05:51 PM »
2 dragons are fine.  Lots could happen though.  Khalesi could turn on John or she could go mad.  Arya, Jaime or Tyrion have long been identified as the ones to take out Cersei.  Even questions over whether Arya is Arya anymore.  Bran was useless, expected more from him - is he the lord of light? 
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« Reply #287 on: April 30, 2019, 05:22:10 PM »
2 dragons are fine.  Lots could happen though.  Khalesi could turn on John or she could go mad.  Arya, Jaime or Tyrion have long been identified as the ones to take out Cersei.  Even questions over whether Arya is Arya anymore. Bran was useless, expected more from him - is he the lord of light?

Bran was useless. Where did he go?
Jon was a bit useless too.

I think Jaimie will kill Cersei and be killed in the process. And I think Jon will kill Dany as she's going mental and will try to kill him. When she dies the Dragons will die too.
Jon doesn't want to be king so wont tell anyone he's a Targ.
Leaving Gendry as the heir to the throne as the last Baratheon and Arya his queen. The kids will be brutal. Hotpie to get a job in the royal kitchens.
Sansa and Tyrion will shack up as wards of the north.
Bronn of the blackwater will show up to kill Tyrion, but realise he likes him too much so will stay in winterfell as there's a shortage of men now to satisfy the needs of all the whores.
Brienne will finally fall for Giantsbane.
Sam will take Gilly and the kid home and set up shop as lord of the manor.
Greyworm and Mesandre go travelling.
In an unpredictable twist, Podrick is going to shack up with Varys (who's not really a Eunuch, he was just pretending).
Bran is going to Warg into himself in the past whilst warging into himself in the future and get stuck in permanent warg mode.

I love all the theories and rumours going round about who is going to kill who and so on. Thought I'd have my own go at it.

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Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
« Reply #288 on: April 30, 2019, 09:50:23 PM »
Arya, masquerading as Jaime, to kill Cersei.
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« Reply #289 on: April 30, 2019, 11:39:22 PM »
Am not sure the budget for this fight but it was written very poorly. Filmed shocking dark, and in general the last 3/4season build up to Jon Snow night King face off didn't materialise. Pure crap then you compare the legendary night fight at Helms deep in LOTR. Lighting the biggest issue.

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« Reply #290 on: May 01, 2019, 08:10:33 AM »
Am not sure the budget for this fight but it was written very poorly. Filmed shocking dark, and in general the last 3/4season build up to Jon Snow night King face off didn't materialise. Pure crap then you compare the legendary night fight at Helms deep in LOTR. Lighting the biggest issue.

I was disappointed and would have the Battle of the b**tards way ahead of this episode.
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« Reply #291 on: May 01, 2019, 08:44:43 AM »
Am not sure the budget for this fight but it was written very poorly. Filmed shocking dark, and in general the last 3/4season build up to Jon Snow night King face off didn't materialise. Pure crap then you compare the legendary night fight at Helms deep in LOTR. Lighting the biggest issue.

I was disappointed and would have the Battle of the b**tards way ahead of this episode.

+1 Thinking about this since. The plot of the battle was completely unrealistic. Jon actually surviving after a couple hundred of the dead going at him, Jamie stuck against the wall for going on 10 -15 mins, Sam on the ground. All filmed on a calculator using a match as a lighting tool. Not for me I'm afraid.




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« Reply #292 on: May 01, 2019, 08:54:01 AM »
Am not sure the budget for this fight but it was written very poorly. Filmed shocking dark, and in general the last 3/4season build up to Jon Snow night King face off didn't materialise. Pure crap then you compare the legendary night fight at Helms deep in LOTR. Lighting the biggest issue.

I didn't get this at the time but apparently the dead dragon was protecting the Garden where The Night King was going for Bran. Jon couldn't get past it and the bit where he jumped in front of the dragon and appeared to just shout at it, was in fact him distracting the dragon shouting "go" so that Arya could run past into the garden. A few seconds later it cuts to one of the long haired generals and a slight gust of wind blowing his hair, which was apparently Arya running past him to jump the Night King. So Jon did in fact sacrafice his life in order to enable Arya to kill the Night King.
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Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
« Reply #293 on: May 01, 2019, 09:14:44 AM »
Am not sure the budget for this fight but it was written very poorly. Filmed shocking dark, and in general the last 3/4season build up to Jon Snow night King face off didn't materialise. Pure crap then you compare the legendary night fight at Helms deep in LOTR. Lighting the biggest issue.

I didn't get this at the time but apparently the dead dragon was protecting the Garden where The Night King was going for Bran. Jon couldn't get past it and the bit where he jumped in front of the dragon and appeared to just shout at it, was in fact him distracting the dragon shouting "go" so that Arya could run past into the garden. A few seconds later it cuts to one of the long haired generals and a slight gust of wind blowing his hair, which was apparently Arya running past him to jump the Night King. So Jon did in fact sacrafice his life in order to enable Arya to kill the Night King.

Read a different theory that Arya used faceless man white Walker face to get close to the NK to kill him.  Also read a theory on reddit that Bran is the lord of light.
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« Reply #294 on: May 01, 2019, 09:32:07 AM »
Am not sure the budget for this fight but it was written very poorly. Filmed shocking dark, and in general the last 3/4season build up to Jon Snow night King face off didn't materialise. Pure crap then you compare the legendary night fight at Helms deep in LOTR. Lighting the biggest issue.

I didn't get this at the time but apparently the dead dragon was protecting the Garden where The Night King was going for Bran. Jon couldn't get past it and the bit where he jumped in front of the dragon and appeared to just shout at it, was in fact him distracting the dragon shouting "go" so that Arya could run past into the garden. A few seconds later it cuts to one of the long haired generals and a slight gust of wind blowing his hair, which was apparently Arya running past him to jump the Night King. So Jon did in fact sacrafice his life in order to enable Arya to kill the Night King.

Well that's pretty cool, but they should've showed that.

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« Reply #295 on: May 01, 2019, 09:48:29 AM »
Am not sure the budget for this fight but it was written very poorly. Filmed shocking dark, and in general the last 3/4season build up to Jon Snow night King face off didn't materialise. Pure crap then you compare the legendary night fight at Helms deep in LOTR. Lighting the biggest issue.

I didn't get this at the time but apparently the dead dragon was protecting the Garden where The Night King was going for Bran. Jon couldn't get past it and the bit where he jumped in front of the dragon and appeared to just shout at it, was in fact him distracting the dragon shouting "go" so that Arya could run past into the garden. A few seconds later it cuts to one of the long haired generals and a slight gust of wind blowing his hair, which was apparently Arya running past him to jump the Night King. So Jon did in fact sacrafice his life in order to enable Arya to kill the Night King.

Well that's pretty cool, but they should've showed that.

I suppose showing it would have reduced the impact / shock moment of Arya jumping from nowhere.
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« Reply #296 on: May 01, 2019, 09:52:35 AM »
Am I the only one who preferred the red wedding and winter coming for House Frey to the battle
Of winterfell and battle of the b**tards?

Interesting theory on JS distracting the dragon cause he was red rotten otherwise, Dany too, they did f**k all with the two dragons
Didn’t like that Sam and Jamie seemed to be swamped by wights for ages, if there was so many they’d be dead
The hound had a mental breakdown for no reason, the Mountain will destroy him
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« Reply #297 on: May 01, 2019, 10:08:45 AM »
I think the theory of Ayra being a faceless man and taking on a white walkers face is probably the most convincing.  I reckon that the reason the show ended so abruptly was to maybe leave these questions hanging to be tied up next week...old fashioned cliff hanger stuff...


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« Reply #298 on: May 01, 2019, 10:40:25 AM »
Am I the only one who preferred the red wedding and winter coming for House Frey to the battle
Of winterfell and battle of the b**tards?

Interesting theory on JS distracting the dragon cause he was red rotten otherwise, Dany too, they did f**k all with the two dragons
Didn’t like that Sam and Jamie seemed to be swamped by wights for ages, if there was so many they’d be dead
The hound had a mental breakdown for no reason, the Mountain will destroy him

The Hound’s break down was due to his fear of fire relating to his feud with his brother The Mountain - a storyline to be resolved later I assume.
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« Reply #299 on: May 01, 2019, 11:00:45 AM »
I don’t think it was though, cause the red lady had already lit all the Dhotraki swords and he was grand. He just said it was cause they didn’t have a hope
If the theory about Bran being the Lord of Light is true and JS, Beric and the hound are all fire wights having been brought back from the dead
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