Leinster SHC 2016

Started by ashman, May 20, 2016, 11:25:59 AM

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mouview

Quote from: Premier Emperor on July 04, 2016, 10:24:46 AM
Is Joe Canning the most overrated player in the game right now?

No, too many Tipp hurlers ahead of him in the queue.

Premier Emperor

Quote from: mouview on July 04, 2016, 11:28:54 AM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on July 04, 2016, 10:24:46 AM
Is Joe Canning the most overrated player in the game right now?

No, too many Tipp hurlers ahead of him in the queue.
What difference does that make?
There aren't Tipp hurlers getting hyped up to the last by the media based on their free taking abilities.

seafoid

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Quote from: mouview on July 04, 2016, 11:28:54 AM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on July 04, 2016, 10:24:46 AM
Is Joe Canning the most overrated player in the game right now?

No, too many Tipp hurlers ahead of him in the queue.
Most of them forwards

He is not that bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePK58kFToIk

dochreidte

Duine Eile

Ger Loughnane fairly ripped into Galway in his column today. Joe Canning as usual coming in for over the top criticism from most, you'd swear he was the only hurler playing for Galway some days,.  ::)

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Minder on July 04, 2016, 10:35:20 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 04, 2016, 09:47:07 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 04, 2016, 08:39:55 AM
Nicky English

Every team knows that Kilkenny are going to move up the gears and start the second half of a match with unbelievable intensity. It's one thing knowing what you're going to meet and another thing to be able to deal with it.
It's not alone the application and workrate, but a team also has to have the real skill to hurl in tight places and tight corners and to win the ball in heavy traffic and to be able to get that ball away.
Doesn't help that Galway basically kept hitting the ball up the field to a crowded Kilkenny defence

Galway actually kept with them well until the last 10 mins


6 point turnaround after ten minutes of the second half... Power and Hogan off the bench and big Jackie not getting a start!! serious team, and the strangest thing,  first half Kilkenny were being out fielded by the Galway lads... so what happens? You are winning most battles but as the game progresses you lose shape you start to play as individuals, tactics go out the window, bodies start to tire and scores become harder to get!!! 
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

johnneycool

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 04, 2016, 01:41:53 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 04, 2016, 10:35:20 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 04, 2016, 09:47:07 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 04, 2016, 08:39:55 AM
Nicky English

Every team knows that Kilkenny are going to move up the gears and start the second half of a match with unbelievable intensity. It's one thing knowing what you're going to meet and another thing to be able to deal with it.
It's not alone the application and workrate, but a team also has to have the real skill to hurl in tight places and tight corners and to win the ball in heavy traffic and to be able to get that ball away.
Doesn't help that Galway basically kept hitting the ball up the field to a crowded Kilkenny defence

Galway actually kept with them well until the last 10 mins


6 point turnaround after ten minutes of the second half... Power and Hogan off the bench and big Jackie not getting a start!! serious team, and the strangest thing,  first half Kilkenny were being out fielded by the Galway lads... so what happens? You are winning most battles but as the game progresses you lose shape you start to play as individuals, tactics go out the window, bodies start to tire and scores become harder to get!!!

Padraig Walsh was getting a working in the first half, being out caught on several occasions, but didn't lose faith in what he was doing and persisted until finally he'd gotten the better of his man. Kilkenny, no matter what is thrown at them keep to the plan and have hurling under pressure down to a fine art.
There's no other team that time and time again go into a ruck and come out with possession, even when one of their players is bottled up, its not too common for the opposition to come out with the ball as they can offload any which way to find a team mate on the periphery. It's not luck, its something they're accustomed to and get on with it.
When the pressure came on the Galway defenders in the second half they'd miss-hit or lose possession all too often as they're just not as used to it, but I'm not sure if any team is.

It'll be interesting how the likes of Wateford with their packed defence can still work the ball out through the lines when the Kilkenny lads get horsing into them.

seafoid

The key is living with the cats for the 1st 15 mins of the second half. 3 points ahead then, not at half time. Look at the 2010 AIF.

NAG1

Anyone care to give a brief synopsis of what happened with the Galway situation and Cunningham or is the point that no one actually knows the actual truth?

Cunny Funt

Quote from: Duine Eile on July 04, 2016, 01:25:57 PM
Ger Loughnane fairly ripped into Galway in his column today. Joe Canning as usual coming in for over the top criticism from most, you'd swear he was the only hurler playing for Galway some days,.  ::)

He certainly didn't hold back.

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Ger Loughnane has accused Galway's hurlers of having 'no guts whatsoever' in the wake of their latest defeat to Kilkenny.

Loughane has little sympathy for the Tribesmen who ousted Anthony Cunningham as manager just weeks after guiding them to last year's All-Ireland final, and tears into them in his Irish Daily Star column today:

"After the stance they took against Anthony Cunningham, this was the day when Galway had to stand up and be counted," writes the Feakle man, who managed Galway between 2006 and 2008.

"Otherwise, they'd rightly be regarded as a laughing stock. This defeat showed they are made of absolutely nothing. You can forget about this Galway team - they have no guts whatsoever!

"Galway are always looking for a crutch. There's always someone or something to blame. The manager, the trainer, the physio, the length of the grass on the training pitch, the weather...

"After pushing Cunningham out the door, the crutch was kicked away from the Galway players. they had to stand up for themselves. No-one would listen if they played the blame game again.

"Galway had a very aggressive manager on the sideline in Cunningham who was prepared to take on Brian Cody. Now they have a manager who reminds me of the Dermot Morgan character 'Fr Trendy' from RTE in the 1980s.

"Micheal Donoghue comes across as an amiable curate coming into a new parish - and they're expecting to win with him? Compare Donoghue's body language on the sideline with that of Cody. You don't need to be a genius to work out who's king of the jungle."

Loughnane added: "If people only knew the inside story of how the coup against Cunningham was organised... it was a farce from beginning to end.

"The day came when the Galway mutineers had to stand up. What happened? The usual Galway story. They collapsed."



mouview

How many AIs did Cunningham win? Loughnane made a laughing stock out of himself with his antics over the Galway team in Ennis a few years back, not informing them out on the field who was actually starting.

Duine Eile

Loughnane seems to love the opportunity to stick the boot into Galway hurling. If that excuse for an article is not motivation to go out the next day and blow whoever they play off the field I don't know what is! Also referring to Micheal Donoghue as Fr. Trendy and an amiable curate is a bit much. He seems to have conveniently forgotten that he won sweet feck all himself with Galway and he had some talented hurlers at his disposal during his time.

GalwayBayBoy

Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 04, 2016, 03:11:47 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on July 04, 2016, 01:25:57 PM
Ger Loughnane fairly ripped into Galway in his column today. Joe Canning as usual coming in for over the top criticism from most, you'd swear he was the only hurler playing for Galway some days,.  ::)

He certainly didn't hold back.

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Ger Loughnane has accused Galway's hurlers of having 'no guts whatsoever' in the wake of their latest defeat to Kilkenny.

Loughane has little sympathy for the Tribesmen who ousted Anthony Cunningham as manager just weeks after guiding them to last year's All-Ireland final, and tears into them in his Irish Daily Star column today:

"After the stance they took against Anthony Cunningham, this was the day when Galway had to stand up and be counted," writes the Feakle man, who managed Galway between 2006 and 2008.

"Otherwise, they'd rightly be regarded as a laughing stock. This defeat showed they are made of absolutely nothing. You can forget about this Galway team - they have no guts whatsoever!

"Galway are always looking for a crutch. There's always someone or something to blame. The manager, the trainer, the physio, the length of the grass on the training pitch, the weather...

"After pushing Cunningham out the door, the crutch was kicked away from the Galway players. they had to stand up for themselves. No-one would listen if they played the blame game again.

"Galway had a very aggressive manager on the sideline in Cunningham who was prepared to take on Brian Cody. Now they have a manager who reminds me of the Dermot Morgan character 'Fr Trendy' from RTE in the 1980s.

"Micheal Donoghue comes across as an amiable curate coming into a new parish - and they're expecting to win with him? Compare Donoghue's body language on the sideline with that of Cody. You don't need to be a genius to work out who's king of the jungle."

Loughnane added: "If people only knew the inside story of how the coup against Cunningham was organised... it was a farce from beginning to end.

"The day came when the Galway mutineers had to stand up. What happened? The usual Galway story. They collapsed."


Pretty low to attack Donoghue like that who is only in the job a wet week really and came into the job late under difficult circumstances. Does he want Donoghue lepping about the place roaring and shouting or something? I don't think he had a particularly great day yesterday but think that is well out of order from Loughnane.

seafoid

Fancy Dan stuff from Gerlock which should be used as motivational material.
He couldn't do anything for Galway.

Maybe MD is better tactically. They have to work on 2nd half 'intinsity'. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb52kJeCzoA

in September

Canalman

Rightly or wrongly,  the Galway hurlers (and the Mayo footballers) will have to accept this type ott criticism after the heaves against their management teams.

Agree with the previous posters that the comments about the new manager were below the belt.

In fairness, the Galway hurlers would be fairly thick skinned  by now and there is very little in the way of stick that their own supporters haven't levelled at them over the  years.

Zulu

Bang out of order from a guy that has done nothing in hurling for nearly 20 years. Fair enough having a go at the players but his personalised attack on the manager was a very low blow and apparently based on the fact he didn't get into a shoulder barging match with Cody on the sideline. If Ger's idea of good management is acting like the village idiot after a lash of pints then it's no wonder nobody mentions him as a potential manager for any IC team.