Query for Ulster folk

[ashman]

Actually two

1: what is a hallion ??

2 ;   What does "thon " mean ??

[5 Sams]

Actually two

1: what is a hallion ?? An uncouth person. No finesse. If you see somebody wiping his nose on his sleeve or farting in public....typical response is..."Fcuk you're a hallion!"

2 ;   What does "thon " mean ?? Has a lot of meanings but mostly means "that "object/person" over there" e.g. thon hallion is after letting one rip. Which sister did you curt last night? "Thon one with the ginger hair!"

[Clov]

Hallion is a great word - an aggressive, clumsy women.

Loreto Todd, whose compiled a dictionary on northern Irish English, suggests that it comes from the Gaeilge 'Eala-bhean' meaning swan woman.

[AZOffaly]

Actually two

1: what is a hallion ?? An uncouth person. No finesse. If you see somebody wiping his nose on his sleeve or farting in public....typical response is..."Fcuk you're a hallion!"

2 ;   What does "thon " mean ?? Has a lot of meanings but mostly means "that "object/person" over there" e.g. thon hallion is after letting one rip. Which sister did you curt last night? "Thon one with the ginger hair!"

Would you say 'thon one' with the ginger hair, or just 'thon with the ginger hair'? Thon was (I thought) a contraction of The One, or That One? Thon One would be like someone saying PIN Number

[Clov]

Always thon one for me. i.e. that one over there.

[BennyCake]

"Look at thon bollix" is a great line to describe some eejit acting the er, eejit.

[screenexile]

Actually two

1: what is a hallion ?? An uncouth person. No finesse. If you see somebody wiping his nose on his sleeve or farting in public....typical response is..."Fcuk you're a hallion!"

2 ;   What does "thon " mean ?? Has a lot of meanings but mostly means "that "object/person" over there" e.g. thon hallion is after letting one rip. Which sister did you curt last night? "Thon one with the ginger hair!"

Would you say 'thon one' with the ginger hair, or just 'thon with the ginger hair'? Thon was (I thought) a contraction of The One, or That One? Thon One would be like someone saying PIN Number

Thon is a variant of "That one" . . . Are we really being pedantic about the grammar of it? Thon one is still an acceptable phrase.

To put it in Free State Terms a Hallion of a woman would be your classic Muck Savage!!

[Clov]

Actually two

1: what is a hallion ?? An uncouth person. No finesse. If you see somebody wiping his nose on his sleeve or farting in public....typical response is..."Fcuk you're a hallion!"

2 ;   What does "thon " mean ?? Has a lot of meanings but mostly means "that "object/person" over there" e.g. thon hallion is after letting one rip. Which sister did you curt last night? "Thon one with the ginger hair!"

Would you say 'thon one' with the ginger hair, or just 'thon with the ginger hair'? Thon was (I thought) a contraction of The One, or That One? Thon One would be like someone saying PIN Number

I've just looked this up AZ, and it seems to come from the Middle/Old English 'yon'.

Also related is 'thonder' & 'yonder' 

[AZOffaly]

Thon One
Yon One
Don Juan

[OgraAnDun]

Thon One
Yon One
Don Juan

You forgot Chung Wan.

[general_lee]

Thon could mean hallion in some instances... eg a drinking associate making a fool of himself in the local drinking establishment:

"Who are you with tonight?"
"Thon"

[lurganblue]

No need for the "one" after thon.

"would ya look at the state of thon ffs"

Hallion isnt specific to women.  Plenty of men are hallions, including a right few GAA players. ie if someone is a dirty c*nt on the field he could receive verbals such as, "sure you're nothing but a hallion!"

[Orior]

Hallion is a great word - an aggressive, clumsy women.

Loreto Todd, whose compiled a dictionary on northern Irish English, suggests that it comes from the Gaeilge 'Eala-bhean' meaning swan woman.

Hallion is also a surname in Australia. Probably descended from Irish convicts!

[AQMP]

No need for the "one" after thon.

"would ya look at the state of thon ffs"

Hallion isnt specific to women.  Plenty of men are hallions, including a right few GAA players. ie if someone is a dirty c*nt on the field he could receive verbals such as, "sure you're nothing but a hallion!"

Yes, not exclusive to women plenty of "durty hallions" on the football field

"Thon" can be used with or without "one"

[longballin]

Where did you leave them balls?   There there there