Crash in Russia

[muppet]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35850167

Russia plane crash: Dozens killed in Rostov-on-Don

Here is an unconfirmed video of the impact: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0cWpR8c1ZQ

[stew]

Awful stuff, it must be brutal on people nit knowing if their loved ones were on that plane.

I hope it is not an act if terrorism, if it is putin will kill many innocents inbthe middle east.

[theskull1]

Was bad weather not mentioned as the cause a news statement? I'm thinking bad weather doesn't make a plane fall out of the sky on fire and at that angle? 

[J70]

Was bad weather not mentioned as the cause a news statement? I'm thinking bad weather doesn't make a plane fall out of the sky on fire and at that angle?

They said they had been circling for 2 hours due to high winds. No expert on these things, but does the weather and the angle it came down as not suggest a wind shear event (like the one in Dallas back in the mid-80s)? They were on approach, almost at the runway and dropped down almost vertically. A serious wind burst, forcing the plane to drop... they might not have room to recover that low to the ground.

Although don't most planes/airports have the technology now to detect such conditions. And aren't pilots trained to cope and not over- or underadjust?

[muppet]

http://aerotime.aero/en/civil/10967-flydubai-crash-in-russia-the-facts

......The weather

During the night, the services reported that the wind speed ranged from 14–22 m/s (31–49 mph). Prior to the crash, Air Traffic Controller informed the pilots that the wind speed is 12 m/s (27 mph) with gusts up to 18 m/s (40 mph). The reported visibility - 3500 m (11 500 ft). In addition, there were reports of a rare weather phenomenon - low-altitude jet stream with a wind speed above 30 m/s. The stream was observed at 629 m height (usually, it's observed only above 5000 m (16 400 ft)......

The wind on the ground  listed above would be an average blowy night in Ireland. The jet-stream speed at 629m wouldn't be that unusual here either. If they had high terrain upwind of them it could be very turbulent, but again not that unusual in these parts of the world. I would like to know how much experience of these conditions the crew had.

It appears they climbed normally after throwing away the 2nd approach, which looks as if everything was under control, until all of a sudden it wasn't. Hard to speculate really.