Dublin v Donegal, Croke Park 26/3/2016 7pm

[Hound]

What picture u idiot. Sure there is a video up there a page back of him pushing his thumb into the guys eye

Have another look "idiot"
Or do you actually think the Donegal player didn't realise he got eye gouged?

Hand in face close to eye does not equal gouge

[Hound]

No business having thumbs near an opponents eye like that let alone apply pressure. Hands should not have been on the face in first place.

Yep, hands on face = silly 2nd yellow card

But youre mistaken if you think he pictures showed pressure applied to eye. Just look at reaction of Donegal player. 100% clear there was no eye gouge

He clearly exerted pressure with the thumb. reaction of Donegal player is neither here nor there. Surely you are not suggesting damage had to be done before it can be taken seriously.
Alan Quinlan missed a Lions Tour for fingers being where they had no business being for a second (and no damage done).
You can t have top players and top teams giving example like this. You can t have kids getting eyes damaged playing games.

Great comparison between a real eye gouge by Quinlan and what McCarthy did, which was clearly not any eye gouge
Have a look at both clips, and in particular the affect it had on the other player

[Stad]

http://youtu.be/PXSpBsBMIgY

[Hound]

Apologise for veering from the eye gouge accusations, but what was the score? I didn't see it.

1-10 to 0-7

Dublin sub keeper Savage had his best display in blue
Fenton had a strong game in middle of the field
McMahon popped up for a now trademark goal, and it was a very composed finish
McManamon deserved man of the match

McBrearty looked in good form, but didnt get enough ball. Donegal extremely negative and gameplan seemed to be to not lose by too much

Murphy played midfield for Donegal. But a stupid sliding tackle got him a 2nd yellow card, and with that Donegal seemed to give up altogether (even though McCarthy got his 2nd yellow in the ensuing melee). Donegal's tactics a shade baffling given the talent they have

[moysider]

No business having thumbs near an opponents eye like that let alone apply pressure. Hands should not have been on the face in first place.

Yep, hands on face = silly 2nd yellow card

But youre mistaken if you think he pictures showed pressure applied to eye. Just look at reaction of Donegal player. 100% clear there was no eye gouge

He clearly exerted pressure with the thumb. reaction of Donegal player is neither here nor there. Surely you are not suggesting damage had to be done before it can be taken seriously.
Alan Quinlan missed a Lions Tour for fingers being where they had no business being for a second (and no damage done).
You can t have top players and top teams giving example like this. You can t have kids getting eyes damaged playing games.

Great comparison between a real eye gouge by Quinlan and what McCarthy did, which was clearly not any eye gouge
Have a look at both clips, and in particular the affect it had on the other player

Agree, excellent comparison.
Both had digits in eye area. Neither opponent was injured but Leo acted like a big girl's blouse for a while.
The effect does not matter my friend. And neither does intent to an extent. If a player behaves in a manner that is reckless and dangerous in the face area, (including interference with nose, mouth etc.) it is unacceptable. An eye should not have to be scrambled before alarm bells go off.

[Hound]

No business having thumbs near an opponents eye like that let alone apply pressure. Hands should not have been on the face in first place.

Yep, hands on face = silly 2nd yellow card

But youre mistaken if you think he pictures showed pressure applied to eye. Just look at reaction of Donegal player. 100% clear there was no eye gouge

He clearly exerted pressure with the thumb. reaction of Donegal player is neither here nor there. Surely you are not suggesting damage had to be done before it can be taken seriously.
Alan Quinlan missed a Lions Tour for fingers being where they had no business being for a second (and no damage done).
You can t have top players and top teams giving example like this. You can t have kids getting eyes damaged playing games.

Great comparison between a real eye gouge by Quinlan and what McCarthy did, which was clearly not any eye gouge
Have a look at both clips, and in particular the affect it had on the other player

Agree, excellent comparison.
Both had digits in eye area. Neither opponent was injured but Leo acted like a big girl's blouse for a while.
The effect does not matter my friend. And neither does intent to an extent. If a player behaves in a manner that is reckless and dangerous in the face area, (including interference with nose, mouth etc.) it is unacceptable. An eye should not have to be scrambled before alarm bells go off.

Agreed it is the perfect comparison.
Cullen had a sore eye as a result of an eye gouge
There was no sore eye in the Dublin - Donegal game as there was no eye gouge

You can make up whatever other nonsense you want. And your comment about Cullen feigning injury shows the calibre of nonsense you are capable of!

Good night!

[Stad]

http://youtu.be/PXSpBsBMIgY

[giveballaghback]

Just a pity all we have to talk about after that game is the negative stuff,those 2 teams should have been able to produce a proper game of football and not that rubbish.

[Zulu]

It wasn't Dublin's fault, Donegal came with an utterly negative game plan that would suggest Gallagher hasn't a clue. The key to the blanket's success was the fact teams weren't patient, now that teams know to re-cycle it only serves to make the game unwatchable. Nobody will win an All Ireland playing Donegal's style again.

[Stad]

It wasn't Dublin's fault, Donegal came with an utterly negative game plan that would suggest Gallagher hasn't a clue. The key to the blanket's success was the fact teams weren't patient, now that teams know to re-cycle it only serves to make the game unwatchable. Nobody will win an All Ireland playing Donegal's style again.

In fairness I don't think any style will win the All Ireland anymore. Amateurs competing against professionals will never work. Dublin should win every year, how can they not?

[moysider]

No business having thumbs near an opponents eye like that let alone apply pressure. Hands should not have been on the face in first place.

Yep, hands on face = silly 2nd yellow card

But youre mistaken if you think he pictures showed pressure applied to eye. Just look at reaction of Donegal player. 100% clear there was no eye gouge

He clearly exerted pressure with the thumb. reaction of Donegal player is neither here nor there. Surely you are not suggesting damage had to be done before it can be taken seriously.
Alan Quinlan missed a Lions Tour for fingers being where they had no business being for a second (and no damage done).
You can t have top players and top teams giving example like this. You can t have kids getting eyes damaged playing games.

Great comparison between a real eye gouge by Quinlan and what McCarthy did, which was clearly not any eye gouge
Have a look at both clips, and in particular the affect it had on the other player

Agree, excellent comparison.
Both had digits in eye area. Neither opponent was injured but Leo acted like a big girl's blouse for a while.
The effect does not matter my friend. And neither does intent to an extent. If a player behaves in a manner that is reckless and dangerous in the face area, (including interference with nose, mouth etc.) it is unacceptable. An eye should not have to be scrambled before alarm bells go off.

Agreed it is the perfect comparison.
Cullen had a sore eye as a result of an eye gouge
There was no sore eye in the Dublin - Donegal game as there was no eye gouge

You can make up whatever other nonsense you want. And your comment about Cullen feigning injury shows the calibre of nonsense you are capable of!

Good night!

Good night indeed !!
There was an 'eye gouge'. Somebody not having a sore eye nothing to do with it.

[J70]

Doesn't look hectic for McCarthy...

http://youtu.be/PXSpBsBMIgY

I think on that viewing that it would be difficult to prove that was a deliberate eye gouge.

[Conallach]

Anecdotally, there was complete apathy around this game, partly I'd imagine because of the timing - players are back with the club, this part of the league always sees a dip in interest, and most people exiled in Dublin are home for the week. Above all else though, playing away to Dublin is something for late summer really, the effort required to beat this fantastic Dublin team probably isn't worth the reward in a league match. I was in Nowlan Park a few weeks ago for the visit of Galway, and to paraphrase one of the Galwegians, if you put everything you had into it, threw your best tactics at it, worked your socks off and most importantly got the bounce of the ball, sure, you might beat them. That it's barely worth it is a measure of just how good, and deep, this Dubs side is. Historically good perhaps. We'll see.

Anyway, the apathy was well rewarded with a match that was, to its very core, a league match. Dublin were worth the win, though I find it hard to praise anyone in particular.

To the poster who mentioned the 2014 minors - most of those will be following the cycle of progression that's pretty standard at the moment - training mid-summer with the seniors year, then a year on the fringes of the team, year in and out of the team - usually in but only making an impact sometimes, and then really showing what they can do in year 3/4. That seems to be the way of things these days, not just in Donegal, though the team's a good example. There are players at various stages of it - Odhrán's a graduate, Eoin McHugh's in the last year of the cycle, and the likes of Eoghan Ban are the year behind him. In the summer I'd expect the most prominent of the newer players to be Ciarán Thompson, followed by Eoghan Ban and Eoin McHugh. Mark Anthony McGinley could get some time in goals as well, if they don't decide to put Michael Boyle back in and if Durcan doesn't return.

[Il Bomber Destro]

Do the same people who believed Neil McGee was deliberately trying to break the Kerry player's fingers now argue that McCarthy was trying to make one of the Donegal players go blind in one eye?

[moysider]

Do the same people who believed Neil McGee was deliberately trying to break the Kerry player's fingers now argue that McCarthy was trying to make one of the Donegal players go blind in one eye?

Deliberate?

The point is that those actions could have led to serious injury to fingers or eye. They would not have been incidental injuries.
There is a line and McGee and McCarty crossed it. Others have too. The annoying thing here is that county-men get thick and defend their own whatever it takes. It has to be said though some Donegal posters saw the McGee one for what it was worth.
Nobody is saying somebody went out to break fingers or blind somebody. However it is the incident that should be examined - not the result.