kerry v donegal

[JoG2]

Come to think of it Colm cavanagh was pretty shit for a year or two when he started playing for Tyrone so there hope yet.

I could mark fresh air for frigs sake!  Do not understand this new love in with Colm C and Cian O'Sullivan.  Two average midfielders (footballers)  who are now sitting in front of defenses having a grand old time of it! 

There's definitely times I think I could play county ball as well. Colly has really improved over the years and we wouldn't be without him.cian osulliavan a grt player to.

I see McGee hasn't got a ban but a proposed ban according to John fogarty on Twitter

Colm has definitely improved over the years

[Wildweasel74]

Said it before, 3rd man into any skirmish sees the line, it would stop large scale melees over night!

[manfromdelmonte]

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mike-quirke-kerry-prove-they-have-no-problem-dancing-under-the-dark-lights-386383.html

I must admit to only seeing the tail-end of the incident live — it was impossible to catch every flash point. But from watching it back, McGee was most deserving of the few dunts he received for what he tried to do to Fitzgerald's fingers. It was right up there with eye gouging or spitting at an opponent, in my book. A nasty, deliberate act designed to inflict real damage and provoke an opponent. Completely unnecessary and unwarranted, no matter what colour jersey you're wearing, or what county you hail from.

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So you're entitled to hit a lad a few boxes then?

If anything, Donaghy lit the fuse with his man-handling of Donegal's pack leader Michael Murphy following an early hop ball. He threw him to the turf in what seemed like a statement of intent... 'ye boys won't come into our house and bully us today'.

So players are allowed to do that now? rugby tackle lads to the ground to make a statement of intent?

[westbound]

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mike-quirke-kerry-prove-they-have-no-problem-dancing-under-the-dark-lights-386383.html

I must admit to only seeing the tail-end of the incident live — it was impossible to catch every flash point. But from watching it back, McGee was most deserving of the few dunts he received for what he tried to do to Fitzgerald's fingers. It was right up there with eye gouging or spitting at an opponent, in my book. A nasty, deliberate act designed to inflict real damage and provoke an opponent. Completely unnecessary and unwarranted, no matter what colour jersey you're wearing, or what county you hail from.

Out of interest, what do people think the correct punishment for Donaghy's 'round the neck pull down of murphy' would have been if the ref dealt with it at the time?

Take the personalities out of it and look at it objectively (as if it happened in a low key club game).

I think most would agree that there wasn't a red card offence committed. But I'm interested to see if people think it wsa a black card or yellow card offence?
It was surely a deliberate pull down so did he deserve a black card? Or does the black card state that the ball has to be in play?


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So you're entitled to hit a lad a few boxes then?

If anything, Donaghy lit the fuse with his man-handling of Donegal's pack leader Michael Murphy following an early hop ball. He threw him to the turf in what seemed like a statement of intent... 'ye boys won't come into our house and bully us today'.

So players are allowed to do that now? rugby tackle lads to the ground to make a statement of intent?

[blanketattack]

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mike-quirke-kerry-prove-they-have-no-problem-dancing-under-the-dark-lights-386383.html

I must admit to only seeing the tail-end of the incident live — it was impossible to catch every flash point. But from watching it back, McGee was most deserving of the few dunts he received for what he tried to do to Fitzgerald's fingers. It was right up there with eye gouging or spitting at an opponent, in my book. A nasty, deliberate act designed to inflict real damage and provoke an opponent. Completely unnecessary and unwarranted, no matter what colour jersey you're wearing, or what county you hail from.

*************
So you're entitled to hit a lad a few boxes then?

If anything, Donaghy lit the fuse with his man-handling of Donegal's pack leader Michael Murphy following an early hop ball. He threw him to the turf in what seemed like a statement of intent... 'ye boys won't come into our house and bully us today'.

So players are allowed to do that now? rugby tackle lads to the ground to make a statement of intent?

McGee deserved a lot more than a few boxes and a 1 match ban. He got off lightly in both respects.

Quirke called the Donaghy incident lawless, he's hardly saying it's OK as you're insinuating

[Zulu]

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mike-quirke-kerry-prove-they-have-no-problem-dancing-under-the-dark-lights-386383.html

I must admit to only seeing the tail-end of the incident live — it was impossible to catch every flash point. But from watching it back, McGee was most deserving of the few dunts he received for what he tried to do to Fitzgerald's fingers. It was right up there with eye gouging or spitting at an opponent, in my book. A nasty, deliberate act designed to inflict real damage and provoke an opponent. Completely unnecessary and unwarranted, no matter what colour jersey you're wearing, or what county you hail from.

*************
So you're entitled to hit a lad a few boxes then?

If anything, Donaghy lit the fuse with his man-handling of Donegal's pack leader Michael Murphy following an early hop ball. He threw him to the turf in what seemed like a statement of intent... 'ye boys won't come into our house and bully us today'.

So players are allowed to do that now? rugby tackle lads to the ground to make a statement of intent?

McGee deserved a lot more than a few boxes and a 1 match ban. He got off lightly in both respects.

Quirke called the Donaghy incident lawless, he's hardly saying it's OK as you're insinuating

+1 McGee didn't get half hard enough. There was a time in football when if you did that you'd expect a slap in the mouth for your troubles. The problem now is that you're rewarded for sly cowardly actions. What McGee did was way worse than what Fitzgerald did.

What's going on in football at the moment is shaming our game and it's high time a good few IC teams and individuals had a rethink about some of their ways.

[lenny]

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mike-quirke-kerry-prove-they-have-no-problem-dancing-under-the-dark-lights-386383.html

I must admit to only seeing the tail-end of the incident live — it was impossible to catch every flash point. But from watching it back, McGee was most deserving of the few dunts he received for what he tried to do to Fitzgerald's fingers. It was right up there with eye gouging or spitting at an opponent, in my book. A nasty, deliberate act designed to inflict real damage and provoke an opponent. Completely unnecessary and unwarranted, no matter what colour jersey you're wearing, or what county you hail from.

*************
So you're entitled to hit a lad a few boxes then?

If anything, Donaghy lit the fuse with his man-handling of Donegal's pack leader Michael Murphy following an early hop ball. He threw him to the turf in what seemed like a statement of intent... 'ye boys won't come into our house and bully us today'.

So players are allowed to do that now? rugby tackle lads to the ground to make a statement of intent?

McGee deserved a lot more than a few boxes and a 1 match ban. He got off lightly in both respects.

Quirke called the Donaghy incident lawless, he's hardly saying it's OK as you're insinuating

+1 McGee didn't get half hard enough. There was a time in football when if you did that you'd expect a slap in the mouth for your troubles. The problem now is that you're rewarded for sly cowardly actions. What McGee did was way worse than what Fitzgerald did.

What's going on in football at the moment is shaming our game and it's high time a good few IC teams and individuals had a rethink about some of their ways.

Totally 100% agree. Tyrone, under harte, with ricey, gormley etc brought in most of these horrible dark provocative acts and have used it to their advantage. Donegal are one of the teams who have seen that it can be used to the advantage of a team as the player who retaliates is often the one more severely punished.

[orangeman]

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mike-quirke-kerry-prove-they-have-no-problem-dancing-under-the-dark-lights-386383.html

I must admit to only seeing the tail-end of the incident live — it was impossible to catch every flash point. But from watching it back, McGee was most deserving of the few dunts he received for what he tried to do to Fitzgerald's fingers. It was right up there with eye gouging or spitting at an opponent, in my book. A nasty, deliberate act designed to inflict real damage and provoke an opponent. Completely unnecessary and unwarranted, no matter what colour jersey you're wearing, or what county you hail from.

*************
So you're entitled to hit a lad a few boxes then?

If anything, Donaghy lit the fuse with his man-handling of Donegal's pack leader Michael Murphy following an early hop ball. He threw him to the turf in what seemed like a statement of intent... 'ye boys won't come into our house and bully us today'.

So players are allowed to do that now? rugby tackle lads to the ground to make a statement of intent?

McGee deserved a lot more than a few boxes and a 1 match ban. He got off lightly in both respects.

Quirke called the Donaghy incident lawless, he's hardly saying it's OK as you're insinuating

+1 McGee didn't get half hard enough. There was a time in football when if you did that you'd expect a slap in the mouth for your troubles. The problem now is that you're rewarded for sly cowardly actions. What McGee did was way worse than what Fitzgerald did.

What's going on in football at the moment is shaming our game and it's high time a good few IC teams and individuals had a rethink about some of their ways.

Totally 100% agree. Tyrone, under harte, with ricey, gormley etc brought in most of these horrible dark provocative acts and have used it to their advantage. Donegal are one of the teams who have seen that it can be used to the advantage of a team as the player who retaliates is often the one more severely punished.

+1
There's no doubt about this. Tyrone invented this stuff and some are carrying it on. Thankfully Kerry haven't succumbed to the darks arts yet.

[rosnarun]

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mike-quirke-kerry-prove-they-have-no-problem-dancing-under-the-dark-lights-386383.html

I must admit to only seeing the tail-end of the incident live — it was impossible to catch every flash point. But from watching it back, McGee was most deserving of the few dunts he received for what he tried to do to Fitzgerald's fingers. It was right up there with eye gouging or spitting at an opponent, in my book. A nasty, deliberate act designed to inflict real damage and provoke an opponent. Completely unnecessary and unwarranted, no matter what colour jersey you're wearing, or what county you hail from.

*************
So you're entitled to hit a lad a few boxes then?

If anything, Donaghy lit the fuse with his man-handling of Donegal's pack leader Michael Murphy following an early hop ball. He threw him to the turf in what seemed like a statement of intent... 'ye boys won't come into our house and bully us today'.

So players are allowed to do that now? rugby tackle lads to the ground to make a statement of intent?

would you expect him to wait till mcgee broke his fingers to retaliate or until the CCCC decide that Mcgee was doing something wrong.
Remonds me of the Time con counihan (i think) grabbed Jack os sheas Manhood  , O shea rightly wasnt worried about what committees or refs would think if his actions as he laid into the corkman . Sometimes instant action is the Only way

[longballin]

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mike-quirke-kerry-prove-they-have-no-problem-dancing-under-the-dark-lights-386383.html

I must admit to only seeing the tail-end of the incident live — it was impossible to catch every flash point. But from watching it back, McGee was most deserving of the few dunts he received for what he tried to do to Fitzgerald's fingers. It was right up there with eye gouging or spitting at an opponent, in my book. A nasty, deliberate act designed to inflict real damage and provoke an opponent. Completely unnecessary and unwarranted, no matter what colour jersey you're wearing, or what county you hail from.

*************
So you're entitled to hit a lad a few boxes then?

If anything, Donaghy lit the fuse with his man-handling of Donegal's pack leader Michael Murphy following an early hop ball. He threw him to the turf in what seemed like a statement of intent... 'ye boys won't come into our house and bully us today'.

So players are allowed to do that now? rugby tackle lads to the ground to make a statement of intent?

McGee deserved a lot more than a few boxes and a 1 match ban. He got off lightly in both respects.

Quirke called the Donaghy incident lawless, he's hardly saying it's OK as you're insinuating

+1 McGee didn't get half hard enough. There was a time in football when if you did that you'd expect a slap in the mouth for your troubles. The problem now is that you're rewarded for sly cowardly actions. What McGee did was way worse than what Fitzgerald did.

What's going on in football at the moment is shaming our game and it's high time a good few IC teams and individuals had a rethink about some of their ways.

Totally 100% agree. Tyrone, under harte, with ricey, gormley etc brought in most of these horrible dark provocative acts and have used it to their advantage. Donegal are one of the teams who have seen that it can be used to the advantage of a team as the player who retaliates is often the one more severely punished.

Meath were dark in the 1990s or is tramping on a player's head or emptying a player as they kick the ball noble and tough?

[lenny]

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mike-quirke-kerry-prove-they-have-no-problem-dancing-under-the-dark-lights-386383.html

I must admit to only seeing the tail-end of the incident live — it was impossible to catch every flash point. But from watching it back, McGee was most deserving of the few dunts he received for what he tried to do to Fitzgerald's fingers. It was right up there with eye gouging or spitting at an opponent, in my book. A nasty, deliberate act designed to inflict real damage and provoke an opponent. Completely unnecessary and unwarranted, no matter what colour jersey you're wearing, or what county you hail from.

*************
So you're entitled to hit a lad a few boxes then?

If anything, Donaghy lit the fuse with his man-handling of Donegal's pack leader Michael Murphy following an early hop ball. He threw him to the turf in what seemed like a statement of intent... 'ye boys won't come into our house and bully us today'.

So players are allowed to do that now? rugby tackle lads to the ground to make a statement of intent?

McGee deserved a lot more than a few boxes and a 1 match ban. He got off lightly in both respects.

Quirke called the Donaghy incident lawless, he's hardly saying it's OK as you're insinuating

+1 McGee didn't get half hard enough. There was a time in football when if you did that you'd expect a slap in the mouth for your troubles. The problem now is that you're rewarded for sly cowardly actions. What McGee did was way worse than what Fitzgerald did.

What's going on in football at the moment is shaming our game and it's high time a good few IC teams and individuals had a rethink about some of their ways.

Totally 100% agree. Tyrone, under harte, with ricey, gormley etc brought in most of these horrible dark provocative acts and have used it to their advantage. Donegal are one of the teams who have seen that it can be used to the advantage of a team as the player who retaliates is often the one more severely punished.

Meath were dark in the 1990s or is tramping on a player's head or emptying a player as they kick the ball noble and tough?

Meath were a big physical side and everything they did v tyrone in 1996 was done openly in front of the ref and should have been dealt with as it was in open play. what I'm talking about is the underhand provoking of players using sledging or trying to injure way off the ball and out of sight of the play.

[manfromdelmonte]

Kerry have been well able to rough teams up for decades and usually get away with it too

[JoG2]

Does anyone know for certain what the role of an umpire is, apart from signalling a score or a wide in relation to rough house tactics? Occasionally a ref will speak to one re a passage of play so I assume they have some kind of power in relation to off the ball antics. Linesmen cannot make calls re the actual play, but can for any off the ball caper, but umpires??

During county matches in the last few years, I've seen forwards getting half strangled by defenders, continuously elbowed in the adam's apple, stamped on repeatedly, kicked on the achilles repeatedly, getting slabbered at etc etc..Its all happening with a few feet of 2 x umpires who 99% of the time do sweet f all about it. I've seen forwards shouting at the umpires to do something, and the umpires respond by looking down at the ground (well if they can see the ground beyond their rotundness) not wanting to get involved.

[longballin]

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mike-quirke-kerry-prove-they-have-no-problem-dancing-under-the-dark-lights-386383.html

I must admit to only seeing the tail-end of the incident live — it was impossible to catch every flash point. But from watching it back, McGee was most deserving of the few dunts he received for what he tried to do to Fitzgerald's fingers. It was right up there with eye gouging or spitting at an opponent, in my book. A nasty, deliberate act designed to inflict real damage and provoke an opponent. Completely unnecessary and unwarranted, no matter what colour jersey you're wearing, or what county you hail from.

*************
So you're entitled to hit a lad a few boxes then?

If anything, Donaghy lit the fuse with his man-handling of Donegal's pack leader Michael Murphy following an early hop ball. He threw him to the turf in what seemed like a statement of intent... 'ye boys won't come into our house and bully us today'.

So players are allowed to do that now? rugby tackle lads to the ground to make a statement of intent?

McGee deserved a lot more than a few boxes and a 1 match ban. He got off lightly in both respects.

Quirke called the Donaghy incident lawless, he's hardly saying it's OK as you're insinuating

+1 McGee didn't get half hard enough. There was a time in football when if you did that you'd expect a slap in the mouth for your troubles. The problem now is that you're rewarded for sly cowardly actions. What McGee did was way worse than what Fitzgerald did.

What's going on in football at the moment is shaming our game and it's high time a good few IC teams and individuals had a rethink about some of their ways.

Totally 100% agree. Tyrone, under harte, with ricey, gormley etc brought in most of these horrible dark provocative acts and have used it to their advantage. Donegal are one of the teams who have seen that it can be used to the advantage of a team as the player who retaliates is often the one more severely punished.

Meath were dark in the 1990s or is tramping on a player's head or emptying a player as they kick the ball noble and tough?

Meath were a big physical side and everything they did v tyrone in 1996 was done openly in front of the ref and should have been dealt with as it was in open play. what I'm talking about is the underhand provoking of players using sledging or trying to injure way off the ball and out of sight of the play.

I could never condone that stuff is a blight on the game.

[Zulu]

What's going on now is way worse. What went on in times past is irrelevant anyway and we were right to stamp out some of the more violent elements of the game but what's replaced it has absolutely no honour or merit. It's pathetic and harmful to the game.