210,000 Northern DLA Claimants

T Fearon · February 25, 2016, 07:46:03 PM

With an annual bill of £1bn.No wonder relativlely few want a united Ireland North or South!

Rossfan · February 25, 2016, 07:49:18 PM

What's DLA?
Have we an equivalent and how much do we pay?

Minder · February 25, 2016, 07:52:41 PM

PIP should knock that number down

But yeah it's a joke

T Fearon · February 25, 2016, 08:12:00 PM

Disability Living Allowance allegedly for people who can't walk or move around.

thebigfella · February 25, 2016, 08:56:49 PM

Quote from: T Fearon on February 25, 2016, 08:12:00 PM
Disability Living Allowance allegedly for people who can't walk or move around.

But they are capable of driving themselves around.

brokencrossbar1 · February 25, 2016, 08:59:42 PM

Quote from: T Fearon on February 25, 2016, 08:12:00 PM
Disability Living Allowance allegedly for people who can't walk or move around.

A lot broader remit that that Tony. There are many things covered and different levels. The level of fraud across benefits is very low, around 2.5% of all benefits claimed. While there is a benefit culture in NI unless you have worked in that environment then you have no idea what it is like.

PIP will curtail a lot of it for now but it will simply readjust.

AQMP · February 25, 2016, 09:06:04 PM

Quote from: T Fearon on February 25, 2016, 07:46:03 PM
With an annual bill of £1bn.No wonder relativlely few want a united Ireland North or South!

DLA...a fundamental part of the Northern Irish identity.

redzone · February 25, 2016, 09:06:52 PM

U can spot them a mile away. Usually a bit overweight and driving a brand new jeep or people carrier.

StephenC · February 25, 2016, 09:20:35 PM

What's PIP?

BennyCake · February 25, 2016, 09:22:33 PM

Aye, because all 210,000 have nothing medically wrong with them

brokencrossbar1 · February 25, 2016, 09:24:26 PM

Personal Independence Payment. Stricter guidelines

Saffrongael · February 25, 2016, 09:38:32 PM

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 25, 2016, 08:59:42 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 25, 2016, 08:12:00 PM
Disability Living Allowance allegedly for people who can't walk or move around.

A lot broader remit that that Tony. There are many things covered and different levels. The level of fraud across benefits is very low, around 2.5% of all benefits claimed. While there is a benefit culture in NI unless you have worked in that environment then you have no idea what it is like.

PIP will curtail a lot of it for now but it will simply readjust.

It's low for a couple of reasons. The people that investigate fraud are almost exclusively reliant on people "touting", they are massively under resourced. DLA for example, if someone has filled in the form correctly they will be awarded DLA. Now we all know that we don't have 210,000 "disabled" people here.

Getting the kids on DLA is hitting pay dirt (ADHD is a favourite), if you are on a benefit such as Income Support, you will get a monthly sum for the child from DLA plus your Income Support will increase with various premiums, as will your tax credits.

Another puzzling onus people on Job Seekers that get DLA, i.e. supposed to be actively seeking work but "disabled" at the same time

BennyCake · February 25, 2016, 09:39:36 PM

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 25, 2016, 09:24:26 PM
Personal Independence Payment. Stricter guidelines

In the same way that some people will find a way to get on it, the govt will find a way to get people off it.

There's always money for wars though.

brokencrossbar1 · February 25, 2016, 09:47:41 PM

Quote from: Saffrongael on February 25, 2016, 09:38:32 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 25, 2016, 08:59:42 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 25, 2016, 08:12:00 PM
Disability Living Allowance allegedly for people who can't walk or move around.

A lot broader remit that that Tony. There are many things covered and different levels. The level of fraud across benefits is very low, around 2.5% of all benefits claimed. While there is a benefit culture in NI unless you have worked in that environment then you have no idea what it is like.

PIP will curtail a lot of it for now but it will simply readjust.

It's low for a couple of reasons. The people that investigate fraud are almost exclusively reliant on people "touting", they are massively under resourced. DLA for example, if someone has filled in the form correctly they will be awarded DLA. Now we all know that we don't have 210,000 "disabled" people here.

Getting the kids on DLA is hitting pay dirt (ADHD is a favourite), if you are on a benefit such as Income Support, you will get a monthly sum for the child from DLA plus your Income Support will increase with various premiums, as will your tax credits.

Another puzzling onus people on Job Seekers that get DLA, i.e. supposed to be actively seeking work but "disabled" at the same time

There's no doubt that there are plenty of 'blaggers' getting DLA unwarranted but trust me as someone who has worked directly with them there are fewer chancers came through my door than real genuine cases. When you do home visits you see the poverty that they live in and the poverty trap that they are caught in.

As regards those on JSA, the majority of those on DLA will be on ESA, which replaced Incapacity Benefits. They are not living high lives you know. While some have the DLA cars that has reduced dramatically in recent years. It is very hard to get the full mobility which allows you to get a car.

Saffrongael · February 25, 2016, 10:01:27 PM

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 25, 2016, 09:47:41 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 25, 2016, 09:38:32 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 25, 2016, 08:59:42 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 25, 2016, 08:12:00 PM
Disability Living Allowance allegedly for people who can't walk or move around.

A lot broader remit that that Tony. There are many things covered and different levels. The level of fraud across benefits is very low, around 2.5% of all benefits claimed. While there is a benefit culture in NI unless you have worked in that environment then you have no idea what it is like.

PIP will curtail a lot of it for now but it will simply readjust.

It's low for a couple of reasons. The people that investigate fraud are almost exclusively reliant on people "touting", they are massively under resourced. DLA for example, if someone has filled in the form correctly they will be awarded DLA. Now we all know that we don't have 210,000 "disabled" people here.

Getting the kids on DLA is hitting pay dirt (ADHD is a favourite), if you are on a benefit such as Income Support, you will get a monthly sum for the child from DLA plus your Income Support will increase with various premiums, as will your tax credits.

Another puzzling onus people on Job Seekers that get DLA, i.e. supposed to be actively seeking work but "disabled" at the same time

There's no doubt that there are plenty of 'blaggers' getting DLA unwarranted but trust me as someone who has worked directly with them there are fewer chancers came through my door than real genuine cases. When you do home visits you see the poverty that they live in and the poverty trap that they are caught in.

As regards those on JSA, the majority of those on DLA will be on ESA, which replaced Incapacity Benefits. They are not living high lives you know. While some have the DLA cars that has reduced dramatically in recent years. It is very hard to get the full mobility which allows you to get a car.

If you are on DLA and on say ESA for example (with the associated premiums), I can't see how that is "poverty". With Housing Benefit paying your rent. Or ESA/Income support paying the interest on your mortgage (indefinitely I think)