What are the day to day signs of Britishness for nationalists in NI ?

[MoChara]

In 1998 the British,for the first time ever,got free consent from All Ireland,that they should govern the North.Hence sovereignty was ceded,in the name of peace,or in other words surrendered.

And this symbolic act gained them what exactly?

The only real concession of value (i.e. one which might actually change anything) was of their own sovereignty in the event of a poll. But then people like you would vote to stay in the Union anyway so what are you constantly moaning about?

They already had the poll organised since the 20s with the gerrymandered north, what they gained was not having to be internationally embarrassed by one of their  supposedly home countries.

Ah yes I remember now, remember when Thatcher was so 'internationally embarrassed' about this that she.............eh......

....eh.....

That she let 10 ten starve to death, (if you read more recent stuff she tried to make a secret deal after 4, due to the flack she was receiving) rather than recognise them as having legitimate political aspirations which could make her appear weak and out of control.

For a so called world super power to be having it put up to them in a place that was as "British as Finchley" by a group of brickies, shop keepers and farmers I'd say internationally that was pretty embarrassing for them.

[ziggysego]

The price of stamps... well,  everything about stamps.

[Orior]

Stephen Watson on BBC announcing that this weekend is the big one. Yes, its Ireland versus England.

The big one? Oh fcuk off you cnut, pardon my french.

[deiseach]

Stephen Watson on BBC announcing that this weekend is the big one. Yes, its Ireland versus England.

The big one? Oh fcuk off you cnut, pardon my french.

He could work for RTÉ and he'd say exactly the same thing.

[Orior]

Stephen Watson on BBC announcing that this weekend is the big one. Yes, its Ireland versus England.

The big one? Oh fcuk off you cnut, pardon my french.

He could work for RTÉ and he'd say exactly the same thing.

Well then they can fcuk off too. Up here they still was lyrical about the time their soccer team beat Engerland, like nothing else matters. Pardon my french.

[deiseach]

They wouldn't bang on about soccer success on RTÉ, in fairness. Not enough ABC1's involved. Wait, 'in fairness'? No, you're right. They can fcuk off too.

[johnneycool]

They wouldn't bang on about soccer success on RTÉ, in fairness. Not enough ABC1's involved. Wait, 'in fairness'? No, you're right. They can fcuk off too.

2FM regularly give English premiership results ahead of NHL or NFL results on a Monday morning which I find strange.

[Orior]

They wouldn't bang on about soccer success on RTÉ, in fairness. Not enough ABC1's involved. Wait, 'in fairness'? No, you're right. They can fcuk off too.

2FM regularly give English premiership results ahead of NHL or NFL results on a Monday morning which I find strange.

Some radio stations in the occupied six will even give english county cricket scores but not gaelic county results.

[deiseach]

Some radio stations in the occupied six will even give english county cricket scores but not gaelic county results.

You have to be taking the piss.

[Orior]

Some radio stations in the occupied six will even give english county cricket scores but not gaelic county results.

You have to be taking the piss.

U105 and CoolFM. Cnuts.

[Hereiam]

Stephen Nolan shoutin that his radio show is the biggest show in the country......what country is he referring to exactly?

[BennyCake]

The North being part of UK, understandably has an influence from there ie. TV, papers, radio, sport etc.

But in the South there's too much attachment and interest in all things British. I like a game of soccer as much as the next man, but the amount of coverage on RTE/TV3 is sickening. Radio shows constantly jibbering on about last nights British soaps, reality tv, and the obsession with having British celebrities on Irish chat shows/panel shows etc. I don't read magazines but I'd say it's the same in them. You have Irish editions of rags like the Sun/Mirror. I wouldn't wipe me hole with them.

The lack of things Irish/GAA up here is understandable given the sectarianism in the media, but what's the excuse down there?

[AZOffaly]

The North being part of UK, understandably has an influence from there ie. TV, papers, radio, sport etc.

But in the South there's too much attachment and interest in all things British. I like a game of soccer as much as the next man, but the amount of coverage on RTE/TV3 is sickening. Radio shows constantly jibbering on about last nights British soaps, reality tv, and the obsession with having British celebrities on Irish chat shows/panel shows etc. I don't read magazines but I'd say it's the same in them. You have Irish editions of rags like the Sun/Mirror. I wouldn't wipe me hole with them.

The lack of things Irish/GAA up here is understandable given the sectarianism in the media, but what's the excuse down there?

I don't think there's a lack of GAA down here. If anything there's too much nonsense in the national media about the GAA as they try to fill column inches (see Breheny, Martin). However I do agree there's an unhealthy obsession with celebrity in general, and British celeb culture is a massive market close by, so there's a pile of that shite in our papers and/or TV.

[general_lee]

I don't really see anything wrong with having British popular culture a feature in Irish/N Irish media outlets. We all obsess over their shitty soaps (except me), support their football teams, listen to their musicians etc. I don't think there's any difference between North and south in that regard. The only difference is BBC and UTV's inherent unionist agenda.

[muppet]

In 1998 the British,for the first time ever,got free consent from All Ireland,that they should govern the North.Hence sovereignty was ceded,in the name of peace,or in other words surrendered.

And this symbolic act gained them what exactly?

The only real concession of value (i.e. one which might actually change anything) was of their own sovereignty in the event of a poll. But then people like you would vote to stay in the Union anyway so what are you constantly moaning about?

They already had the poll organised since the 20s with the gerrymandered north, what they gained was not having to be internationally embarrassed by one of their  supposedly home countries.

Ah yes I remember now, remember when Thatcher was so 'internationally embarrassed' about this that she.............eh......

....eh.....

That she let 10 ten starve to death, (if you read more recent stuff she tried to make a secret deal after 4, due to the flack she was receiving) rather than recognise them as having legitimate political aspirations which could make her appear weak and out of control.

For a so called world super power to be having it put up to them in a place that was as "British as Finchley" by a group of brickies, shop keepers and farmers I'd say internationally that was pretty embarrassing for them.

We might all hate her, but it did little to damage her. She remained Prime Minister for another 10 years and enjoyed a 'special' relationship with the US at a time when that meant something.