It's only a minority of Muslims right ?

[charlieTully]

Immigration is used to drive down wages especially for non middle class workers. It is a key part of neoliberalism

Nevermind the long term implications for the generations to come.

Plenty of tradesmen who lost their jobs due to influx of cheap labour when things started to get tight after the bust. Irish workers were discarded.

Was it Irish men who employed this cheap labour over Irish workers ?

Usually yes. I've said it before - the irish will shake your hand and stab you in the back at the same time.

We can't really complain too much then.

[Milltown Row2]

Couldn't agree more milltown. Country is full of people who wouldn't get off their arses in a fit and they are the same ones blaming migrants. Where do most migrants to this country come from? Answe is UK, not Poland. Why am I not hearing people moaning about English people taking their jobs? I can't get my head around the anti refugee argument. I actually have an associate living in Ireland, originally from South America who is on Facebook warning of the "terrorist" coming from Syria to her country - the mind boggles.

And you can furnish this with statistic?

Where are you're stats?? Off work or just cant find a job, or just a benefit cheat ??

Born and reared working class and still view myself in that category.... The dole was never an option, hundreds of jobs out there, some people just think they are better Tha the job on offer or can milk more off the government to stay at home and watch the kids

You really are a total contradiction, you are getting yourself in a tizz about something you have no control over yet purport to be at an age where only the fundamental thing like your kids bother you, I always laugh at the born and reared working class and still view myself in that category group, essentially you are saying you have moved on to middle class through your income and affluent area you live in were everyone is lucky to be employed, and are better than those poor sods who for whatever reason didn't.

Certainly not, you cant be middle class if you move to a nice area.. that's like saying if I win the lotto and move to Cultra I'd be upper class, doesn't work like that, but you'd know that... I'm not in a tizz at all, you're the one giving off about Muslims, I couldn't give a shit and would rather worry about our home grown wasters using up what benefits we get on themselves when there are far more needy people out there that actually have a disability...

like I said born and reared with no silver spoon in the mouth and anything that I have achieved in life is down to good work ethics installed by my parents

You are a martyr and a bullshitter, I never mentioned muslims, you are now earning a few pounds and begrudging any poor sod who can't and through no fault of their own are relying on the state to help them care for themselves and their families yet you purport to be working class.  Your parents must be very proud of you, I wonder how many of your working class peers that didn't achieve it in life do you socalise on a regular basis now, or do they have to drive audi's and live in a detached green leaf area now for you to engage with this new breed of working class!!!

I've always been earning money, that's what having a job will do for the working class you numpty... cant find a job? I've been made redundant in 2 jobs as the place closed, no fault of my own, I found a new job each time, willing to do anything worked building site for 2 years labouring ... my parents who are working class and worked very hard through their days are very proud of me, thanks... My working class peers? none of my friends have Audi's I've never owned a new car (i've a company car which is not mine) and none of my friends (myself included) went to college straight after school but generated (like myself) an education later on in life after being married and bringing up kids .....

You seem very angry, you need to enjoy life a bit more... you only get one go at it

edit: sorry not Muslims I meant immigrants 

You truly are unbelievable - on a three page rant about people claiming benefits why don't you let them at it and you enjoy your extreme wealth.   

All I said was if we sort out our own problems first we'd be a better place to live in... you need to stop wearing the superman cape

[Itchy]

Immigration is used to drive down wages especially for non middle class workers. It is a key part of neoliberalism

Nevermind the long term implications for the generations to come.

Plenty of tradesmen who lost their jobs due to influx of cheap labour when things started to get tight after the bust. Irish workers were discarded.

Where did the discarded tradesmen go - emmigrated to Australia is where. So are they just as bad as the Polish. Are they displacing Australians, where do the Australians go? Maybe to Poland.

Either give up their trade and work in lower paid jobs or move to England.
The Polish weren't displaced - they had the opportunity to travel to a new country once they were eligible.

England? Are you for real.

[Milltown Row2]

Couldn't agree more milltown. Country is full of people who wouldn't get off their arses in a fit and they are the same ones blaming migrants. Where do most migrants to this country come from? Answe is UK, not Poland. Why am I not hearing people moaning about English people taking their jobs? I can't get my head around the anti refugee argument. I actually have an associate living in Ireland, originally from South America who is on Facebook warning of the "terrorist" coming from Syria to her country - the mind boggles.

And you can furnish this with statistic?

Where are you're stats?? Off work or just cant find a job, or just a benefit cheat ??

Born and reared working class and still view myself in that category.... The dole was never an option, hundreds of jobs out there, some people just think they are better Tha the job on offer or can milk more off the government to stay at home and watch the kids

You really are a total contradiction, you are getting yourself in a tizz about something you have no control over yet purport to be at an age where only the fundamental thing like your kids bother you, I always laugh at the born and reared working class and still view myself in that category group, essentially you are saying you have moved on to middle class through your income and affluent area you live in were everyone is lucky to be employed, and are better than those poor sods who for whatever reason didn't.

Certainly not, you cant be middle class if you move to a nice area.. that's like saying if I win the lotto and move to Cultra I'd be upper class, doesn't work like that, but you'd know that... I'm not in a tizz at all, you're the one giving off about Muslims, I couldn't give a shit and would rather worry about our home grown wasters using up what benefits we get on themselves when there are far more needy people out there that actually have a disability...

like I said born and reared with no silver spoon in the mouth and anything that I have achieved in life is down to good work ethics installed by my parents

You are a martyr and a bullshitter, I never mentioned muslims, you are now earning a few pounds and begrudging any poor sod who can't and through no fault of their own are relying on the state to help them care for themselves and their families yet you purport to be working class.  Your parents must be very proud of you, I wonder how many of your working class peers that didn't achieve it in life do you socalise on a regular basis now, or do they have to drive audi's and live in a detached green leaf area now for you to engage with this new breed of working class!!!

I've always been earning money, that's what having a job will do for the working class you numpty... cant find a job? I've been made redundant in 2 jobs as the place closed, no fault of my own, I found a new job each time, willing to do anything worked building site for 2 years labouring ... my parents who are working class and worked very hard through their days are very proud of me, thanks... My working class peers? none of my friends have Audi's I've never owned a new car (i've a company car which is not mine) and none of my friends (myself included) went to college straight after school but generated (like myself) an education later on in life after being married and bringing up kids .....

You seem very angry, you need to enjoy life a bit more... you only get one go at it

edit: sorry not Muslims I meant immigrants 

Obviously you're a doubly lazy cnut then, because a man once told me that all you had to do to avoid redundancy was work harder.

Cnut? yeah I'm lazy 

[No wides]

Couldn't agree more milltown. Country is full of people who wouldn't get off their arses in a fit and they are the same ones blaming migrants. Where do most migrants to this country come from? Answe is UK, not Poland. Why am I not hearing people moaning about English people taking their jobs? I can't get my head around the anti refugee argument. I actually have an associate living in Ireland, originally from South America who is on Facebook warning of the "terrorist" coming from Syria to her country - the mind boggles.

And you can furnish this with statistic?

Where are you're stats?? Off work or just cant find a job, or just a benefit cheat ??

Born and reared working class and still view myself in that category.... The dole was never an option, hundreds of jobs out there, some people just think they are better Tha the job on offer or can milk more off the government to stay at home and watch the kids

You really are a total contradiction, you are getting yourself in a tizz about something you have no control over yet purport to be at an age where only the fundamental thing like your kids bother you, I always laugh at the born and reared working class and still view myself in that category group, essentially you are saying you have moved on to middle class through your income and affluent area you live in were everyone is lucky to be employed, and are better than those poor sods who for whatever reason didn't.

Certainly not, you cant be middle class if you move to a nice area.. that's like saying if I win the lotto and move to Cultra I'd be upper class, doesn't work like that, but you'd know that... I'm not in a tizz at all, you're the one giving off about Muslims, I couldn't give a shit and would rather worry about our home grown wasters using up what benefits we get on themselves when there are far more needy people out there that actually have a disability...

like I said born and reared with no silver spoon in the mouth and anything that I have achieved in life is down to good work ethics installed by my parents

You are a martyr and a bullshitter, I never mentioned muslims, you are now earning a few pounds and begrudging any poor sod who can't and through no fault of their own are relying on the state to help them care for themselves and their families yet you purport to be working class.  Your parents must be very proud of you, I wonder how many of your working class peers that didn't achieve it in life do you socalise on a regular basis now, or do they have to drive audi's and live in a detached green leaf area now for you to engage with this new breed of working class!!!

I've always been earning money, that's what having a job will do for the working class you numpty... cant find a job? I've been made redundant in 2 jobs as the place closed, no fault of my own, I found a new job each time, willing to do anything worked building site for 2 years labouring ... my parents who are working class and worked very hard through their days are very proud of me, thanks... My working class peers? none of my friends have Audi's I've never owned a new car (i've a company car which is not mine) and none of my friends (myself included) went to college straight after school but generated (like myself) an education later on in life after being married and bringing up kids .....

You seem very angry, you need to enjoy life a bit more... you only get one go at it

edit: sorry not Muslims I meant immigrants 

You truly are unbelievable - on a three page rant about people claiming benefits why don't you let them at it and you enjoy your extreme wealth.   

All I said was if we sort out our own problems first we'd be a better place to live in... you need to stop wearing the superman cape

No you didn't you lambasted me for worrying about immigration and what effect it would have on us as it was out of my control and told me to concentrate on worrying about important things in life like my kids, then you went on a 3 page rant berating anyone one benefits calling them lazy shites etc, even know that is not something you can control,  you truly are a contradiction, just keep counting your money and looking down on those less fortunate - those being the lazy shites who won't get a job.

[No wides]

Where did I say I go to the bookies every weekday? You can drive past these places any time and they always have people in them. The dole brigade. Give me refugees any day as at least they want to work.

You get a lot of detail from a drive by do you, if the person is on sickness capacity due to mental health issues etc. and maybe finding solace getting out of the house - oh no all lazy shites stealing your money - you and Milltown must be bankrolling the country!

[Franko]

Couldn't agree more milltown. Country is full of people who wouldn't get off their arses in a fit and they are the same ones blaming migrants. Where do most migrants to this country come from? Answe is UK, not Poland. Why am I not hearing people moaning about English people taking their jobs? I can't get my head around the anti refugee argument. I actually have an associate living in Ireland, originally from South America who is on Facebook warning of the "terrorist" coming from Syria to her country - the mind boggles.

And you can furnish this with statistic?

Where are you're stats?? Off work or just cant find a job, or just a benefit cheat ??

Born and reared working class and still view myself in that category.... The dole was never an option, hundreds of jobs out there, some people just think they are better Tha the job on offer or can milk more off the government to stay at home and watch the kids

You really are a total contradiction, you are getting yourself in a tizz about something you have no control over yet purport to be at an age where only the fundamental thing like your kids bother you, I always laugh at the born and reared working class and still view myself in that category group, essentially you are saying you have moved on to middle class through your income and affluent area you live in were everyone is lucky to be employed, and are better than those poor sods who for whatever reason didn't.

Certainly not, you cant be middle class if you move to a nice area.. that's like saying if I win the lotto and move to Cultra I'd be upper class, doesn't work like that, but you'd know that... I'm not in a tizz at all, you're the one giving off about Muslims, I couldn't give a shit and would rather worry about our home grown wasters using up what benefits we get on themselves when there are far more needy people out there that actually have a disability...

like I said born and reared with no silver spoon in the mouth and anything that I have achieved in life is down to good work ethics installed by my parents

You are a martyr and a bullshitter, I never mentioned muslims, you are now earning a few pounds and begrudging any poor sod who can't and through no fault of their own are relying on the state to help them care for themselves and their families yet you purport to be working class.  Your parents must be very proud of you, I wonder how many of your working class peers that didn't achieve it in life do you socalise on a regular basis now, or do they have to drive audi's and live in a detached green leaf area now for you to engage with this new breed of working class!!!

I've always been earning money, that's what having a job will do for the working class you numpty... cant find a job? I've been made redundant in 2 jobs as the place closed, no fault of my own, I found a new job each time, willing to do anything worked building site for 2 years labouring ... my parents who are working class and worked very hard through their days are very proud of me, thanks... My working class peers? none of my friends have Audi's I've never owned a new car (i've a company car which is not mine) and none of my friends (myself included) went to college straight after school but generated (like myself) an education later on in life after being married and bringing up kids .....

You seem very angry, you need to enjoy life a bit more... you only get one go at it

edit: sorry not Muslims I meant immigrants 

Obviously you're a doubly lazy cnut then, because a man once told me that all you had to do to avoid redundancy was work harder.

Cnut? yeah I'm lazy 

Just following the logic.

If the 1000 Bombardier employees were lazy for getting made redundant, you must be an absolute sloth as it's happened you twice.

[Milltown Row2]

Couldn't agree more milltown. Country is full of people who wouldn't get off their arses in a fit and they are the same ones blaming migrants. Where do most migrants to this country come from? Answe is UK, not Poland. Why am I not hearing people moaning about English people taking their jobs? I can't get my head around the anti refugee argument. I actually have an associate living in Ireland, originally from South America who is on Facebook warning of the "terrorist" coming from Syria to her country - the mind boggles.

And you can furnish this with statistic?

Where are you're stats?? Off work or just cant find a job, or just a benefit cheat ??

Born and reared working class and still view myself in that category.... The dole was never an option, hundreds of jobs out there, some people just think they are better Tha the job on offer or can milk more off the government to stay at home and watch the kids

You really are a total contradiction, you are getting yourself in a tizz about something you have no control over yet purport to be at an age where only the fundamental thing like your kids bother you, I always laugh at the born and reared working class and still view myself in that category group, essentially you are saying you have moved on to middle class through your income and affluent area you live in were everyone is lucky to be employed, and are better than those poor sods who for whatever reason didn't.

Certainly not, you cant be middle class if you move to a nice area.. that's like saying if I win the lotto and move to Cultra I'd be upper class, doesn't work like that, but you'd know that... I'm not in a tizz at all, you're the one giving off about Muslims, I couldn't give a shit and would rather worry about our home grown wasters using up what benefits we get on themselves when there are far more needy people out there that actually have a disability...

like I said born and reared with no silver spoon in the mouth and anything that I have achieved in life is down to good work ethics installed by my parents

You are a martyr and a bullshitter, I never mentioned muslims, you are now earning a few pounds and begrudging any poor sod who can't and through no fault of their own are relying on the state to help them care for themselves and their families yet you purport to be working class.  Your parents must be very proud of you, I wonder how many of your working class peers that didn't achieve it in life do you socalise on a regular basis now, or do they have to drive audi's and live in a detached green leaf area now for you to engage with this new breed of working class!!!

I've always been earning money, that's what having a job will do for the working class you numpty... cant find a job? I've been made redundant in 2 jobs as the place closed, no fault of my own, I found a new job each time, willing to do anything worked building site for 2 years labouring ... my parents who are working class and worked very hard through their days are very proud of me, thanks... My working class peers? none of my friends have Audi's I've never owned a new car (i've a company car which is not mine) and none of my friends (myself included) went to college straight after school but generated (like myself) an education later on in life after being married and bringing up kids .....

You seem very angry, you need to enjoy life a bit more... you only get one go at it

edit: sorry not Muslims I meant immigrants 

Obviously you're a doubly lazy cnut then, because a man once told me that all you had to do to avoid redundancy was work harder.

Cnut? yeah I'm lazy 

Just following the logic.

If the 1000 Bombardier employees were lazy for getting made redundant, you must be an absolute sloth as it's happened you twice.

Complete sloth

[seafoid]

Muslims are no different to anyone else

[No wides]

Couldn't agree more milltown. Country is full of people who wouldn't get off their arses in a fit and they are the same ones blaming migrants. Where do most migrants to this country come from? Answe is UK, not Poland. Why am I not hearing people moaning about English people taking their jobs? I can't get my head around the anti refugee argument. I actually have an associate living in Ireland, originally from South America who is on Facebook warning of the "terrorist" coming from Syria to her country - the mind boggles.

And you can furnish this with statistic?

Where are you're stats?? Off work or just cant find a job, or just a benefit cheat ??

Born and reared working class and still view myself in that category.... The dole was never an option, hundreds of jobs out there, some people just think they are better Tha the job on offer or can milk more off the government to stay at home and watch the kids

You really are a total contradiction, you are getting yourself in a tizz about something you have no control over yet purport to be at an age where only the fundamental thing like your kids bother you, I always laugh at the born and reared working class and still view myself in that category group, essentially you are saying you have moved on to middle class through your income and affluent area you live in were everyone is lucky to be employed, and are better than those poor sods who for whatever reason didn't.

Certainly not, you cant be middle class if you move to a nice area.. that's like saying if I win the lotto and move to Cultra I'd be upper class, doesn't work like that, but you'd know that... I'm not in a tizz at all, you're the one giving off about Muslims, I couldn't give a shit and would rather worry about our home grown wasters using up what benefits we get on themselves when there are far more needy people out there that actually have a disability...

like I said born and reared with no silver spoon in the mouth and anything that I have achieved in life is down to good work ethics installed by my parents

You are a martyr and a bullshitter, I never mentioned muslims, you are now earning a few pounds and begrudging any poor sod who can't and through no fault of their own are relying on the state to help them care for themselves and their families yet you purport to be working class.  Your parents must be very proud of you, I wonder how many of your working class peers that didn't achieve it in life do you socalise on a regular basis now, or do they have to drive audi's and live in a detached green leaf area now for you to engage with this new breed of working class!!!

I've always been earning money, that's what having a job will do for the working class you numpty... cant find a job? I've been made redundant in 2 jobs as the place closed, no fault of my own, I found a new job each time, willing to do anything worked building site for 2 years labouring ... my parents who are working class and worked very hard through their days are very proud of me, thanks... My working class peers? none of my friends have Audi's I've never owned a new car (i've a company car which is not mine) and none of my friends (myself included) went to college straight after school but generated (like myself) an education later on in life after being married and bringing up kids .....

You seem very angry, you need to enjoy life a bit more... you only get one go at it

edit: sorry not Muslims I meant immigrants 

Obviously you're a doubly lazy cnut then, because a man once told me that all you had to do to avoid redundancy was work harder.

Cnut? yeah I'm lazy 

Just following the logic.

If the 1000 Bombardier employees were lazy for getting made redundant, you must be an absolute sloth as it's happened you twice.

[No wides]

Muslims are no different to anyone else

Tell the Muslim women that.

[Itchy]

Where did I say I go to the bookies every weekday? You can drive past these places any time and they always have people in them. The dole brigade. Give me refugees any day as at least they want to work.

You get a lot of detail from a drive by do you, if the person is on sickness capacity due to mental health issues etc. and maybe finding solace getting out of the house - oh no all lazy shites stealing your money - you and Milltown must be bankrolling the country!

I live in a small town and I know the guys I'm talking about. I've no doubt they are claiming the sick too. Maybe you are stupid enough to be happy to see a pile of wasters take tax payers money, me I'll call it as I see it. A bunch of useless c***ts who don't want to work and who can get away with it far too easy in this country. Politically I would always have been left of centre but it sickens me to hear parties of the left refuse to call this large minority out.

[No wides]

Where did I say I go to the bookies every weekday? You can drive past these places any time and they always have people in them. The dole brigade. Give me refugees any day as at least they want to work.

You get a lot of detail from a drive by do you, if the person is on sickness capacity due to mental health issues etc. and maybe finding solace getting out of the house - oh no all lazy shites stealing your money - you and Milltown must be bankrolling the country!

I live in a small town and I know the guys I'm talking about. I've no doubt they are claiming the sick too. Maybe you are stupid enough to be happy to see a pile of wasters take tax payers money, me I'll call it as I see it. A bunch of useless c***ts who don't want to work and who can get away with it far too easy in this country. Politically I would always have been left of centre but it sickens me to hear parties of the left refuse to call this large minority out.

Hopefully you continue to work hard unlike milltown and never be made redundant, be awful if you were seen as a lazy **** through no fault of your own!!!!

[No wides]

Where did I say I go to the bookies every weekday? You can drive past these places any time and they always have people in them. The dole brigade. Give me refugees any day as at least they want to work.

You get a lot of detail from a drive by do you, if the person is on sickness capacity due to mental health issues etc. and maybe finding solace getting out of the house - oh no all lazy shites stealing your money - you and Milltown must be bankrolling the country!

I live in a small town and I know the guys I'm talking about. I've no doubt they are claiming the sick too. Maybe you are stupid enough to be happy to see a pile of wasters take tax payers money, me I'll call it as I see it. A bunch of useless c***ts who don't want to work and who can get away with it far too easy in this country. Politically I would always have been left of centre but it sickens me to hear parties of the left refuse to call this large minority out.

So you are categorizing everyone on benefits based on a few lads you know in a small town - good man.

[Itchy]

I was once made redundant and was back in work within a few weeks. You are trying to imply my criticism is off all unemployed people while anyone with half a brain cell can see I am not. I am referring to a large minority of unemployed who have never worked and don't want to work. I am not speaking about unfortunate people who have lost their jobs and try hard to find another job.