The Official 2016 Irish General Election thread

[trileacman]

[Declan]

The other thing in the background is the Brexit etc and any changes Europe will impose in the future. As all our eggs are in the FDI low corporation tax basket what'll happen when that changes? 

[Canalman]

The other thing in the background is the Brexit etc and any changes Europe will impose in the future. As all our eggs are in the FDI low corporation tax basket what'll happen when that changes?

Too true, too true. No way EU will allow this to continue. A Brexit might see our main exporter imposing tariffs and duties on our exports.

I'll tell you what will happen in a decade or so if the FDI low corporation guys depart (and as sure as night follows day they will) ................ we'll have the economists ranting and raving at how we allowed our economic wellbeing to be so tied up in one sector.  ( like we were in the construction industry not so long ago).

Serious trouble ahead imo.

[AZOffaly]

Ye should all be in government lads

[AQMP]

If I were the Returning Officer in Longford-Westmeath I'd start the count for the next election now!

[muppet]

If I were the Returning Officer in Longford-Westmeath I'd start the count for the next election now!

Shouldn't it really be Recounting Officer?

[seafoid]

The other thing in the background is the Brexit etc and any changes Europe will impose in the future. As all our eggs are in the FDI low corporation tax basket what'll happen when that changes?

Brexit looks like it won't happen. The Government needs a more balanced economic strategy than 12.5% that benefits more of the country.

[Hound]

The other thing in the background is the Brexit etc and any changes Europe will impose in the future. As all our eggs are in the FDI low corporation tax basket what'll happen when that changes?

Too true, too true. No way EU will allow this to continue. A Brexit might see our main exporter imposing tariffs and duties on our exports.

I'll tell you what will happen in a decade or so if the FDI low corporation guys depart (and as sure as night follows day they will) ................ we'll have the economists ranting and raving at how we allowed our economic wellbeing to be so tied up in one sector.  ( like we were in the construction industry not so long ago).

Serious trouble ahead imo.

Utter nonsense.

Brexit would increase FDI into Ireland

And there is absolutely no threat to Ireland's 12.5% rate! (Apart from SF/PBP maybe)

[seafoid]

What would the change have been to?
Sinn Féin and loony left running wild for a year fighting the EU/ECB till reality would hit home.

SF and LL  building 20 k social houses. Doing anything else would be loony. Neoliberalism is a waste of time.

Who would pay for these houses?

The gov could charge rents. How much is it paying private landlords and hotels/bnb's at the moment? It can borrow money for nothing  to create jobs.

[muppet]

What would the change have been to?
Sinn Féin and loony left running wild for a year fighting the EU/ECB till reality would hit home.

SF and LL  building 20 k social houses. Doing anything else would be loony. Neoliberalism is a waste of time.

Who would pay for these houses?

The gov could charge rents. How much is it paying private landlords and hotels/bnb's at the moment? It can borrow money for nothing  to create jobs.

This is the political equivalent of an oxymoron. It doesn't make sense to charge rents of people to whom it already pays rent allowances.

And as for the 2nd point, you really want our Government to borrow more money?

[Main Street]

Growth figures do have something important to say but they need to widened.
Should also include,
corporate tax avoidance figures going up,
corporate tax receipts going down,
income inequality going up,
education expenditure still 60% of oecd average.
so on and so forth.

Irish corporate tax receipts were way up in 2015 - almost 3 billion:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-ireland-economy-tax-idUKKBN0TL1XK20151202

Curious about OECD - every OECD reports shows we spend more per student than most countries. Even in 2015, we were ranked 10th amongst OECD countries.

You're right about 2015 corporate unexpected spike in receipts.
The education figures I saw were based on actual cash expenditure on education per capita. 
Not the usual reports based on % of GDP or % of public expenditure.
 
I'll find what I came across,  later on this evening.

[seafoid]

What would the change have been to?
Sinn Féin and loony left running wild for a year fighting the EU/ECB till reality would hit home.

SF and LL  building 20 k social houses. Doing anything else would be loony. Neoliberalism is a waste of time.

Who would pay for these houses?

The gov could charge rents. How much is it paying private landlords and hotels/bnb's at the moment? It can borrow money for nothing  to create jobs.

This is the political equivalent of an oxymoron. It doesn't make sense to charge rents of people to whom it already pays rent allowances.

And as for the 2nd point, you really want our Government to borrow more money?

To generate growth. There is no point in following neoliberal claptrap. Social housing makes people economically more efficient when it is done properly. In a few months the Gov will be able to borrow at minis one percent.

[Rossfan]

What would the change have been to?
Sinn Féin and loony left running wild for a year fighting the EU/ECB till reality would hit home.

SF and LL  building 20 k social houses. Doing anything else would be loony. Neoliberalism is a waste of time.

Who would pay for these houses?

The gov could charge rents. How much is it paying private landlords and hotels/bnb's at the moment? It can borrow money for nothing  to create jobs.

This is the political equivalent of an oxymoron. It doesn't make sense to charge rents of people to whom it already pays rent allowances.

And as for the 2nd point, you really want our Government to borrow more money?

20,000 houses @ 150k = 3Bn.
Saving of 20,000 rent supplements @ €500 per month = € 120m per annum
Income of 20,000 Council rents@ €30 per week = €31.2 m per annum
Expenditure - Interest @1% =  €30m p.a.
Would be "cost neutral" after 25 years.

[east down gael]

It'd be some house if it cost €150k to build.you could cut that in half and you'd probably be closer to the figure.

[muppet]

What would the change have been to?
Sinn Féin and loony left running wild for a year fighting the EU/ECB till reality would hit home.

SF and LL  building 20 k social houses. Doing anything else would be loony. Neoliberalism is a waste of time.

Who would pay for these houses?

The gov could charge rents. How much is it paying private landlords and hotels/bnb's at the moment? It can borrow money for nothing  to create jobs.

This is the political equivalent of an oxymoron. It doesn't make sense to charge rents of people to whom it already pays rent allowances.

And as for the 2nd point, you really want our Government to borrow more money?

To generate growth. There is no point in following neoliberal claptrap. Social housing makes people economically more efficient when it is done properly. In a few months the Gov will be able to borrow at minis one percent.

Putting the word neoliberal into every post isn't really an argument.

Here is our national debt: http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/ireland

Watch it for a minute. It isn't neoliberalism to want to avoid bankruptcy.