The Official 2016 Irish General Election thread

Started by deiseach, February 03, 2016, 11:46:51 AM

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Declan

Well Meath East is now FF 1 FG2 so Regina saw the Shinners off

armaghniac

#496
Maureen O'Sullivan getting in from 7th place on first prefs in Dublin Central does illustrate that PR sometimes does lead to a different result.

The other aspect of PR is that FF have 125% more seats than SF.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

manfromdelmonte


manfromdelmonte

Quote from: seafoid on February 27, 2016, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 27, 2016, 02:00:27 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 27, 2016, 01:58:23 PM
Mayo used to have 6 seats and now is down to 4. Apart from the chunk of South Mayo that was grafted on to Galway West are any.other bits of the county missing from the constituency?

Dunno.

Emigration is probably the biggest factor. Donegal & Kerry also losing seats.
Electorate is 93k. 20k per seat. Should be a 5 seater. Loads of jiggery pokery to give Roscommon (electorate 45k ) 3 seats. Taking south mayo out was the difference.
Roscommon is in with east galway
Galway is a very large county with a big population
whereas Roscommon, well, isn't.

seafoid

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 28, 2016, 01:37:40 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 27, 2016, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 27, 2016, 02:00:27 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 27, 2016, 01:58:23 PM
Mayo used to have 6 seats and now is down to 4. Apart from the chunk of South Mayo that was grafted on to Galway West are any.other bits of the county missing from the constituency?

Dunno.

Emigration is probably the biggest factor. Donegal & Kerry also losing seats.
Electorate is 93k. 20k per seat. Should be a 5 seater. Loads of jiggery pokery to give Roscommon (electorate 45k ) 3 seats. Taking south mayo out was the difference.
Roscommon is in with east galway
Galway is a very large county with a big population
whereas Roscommon, well, isn't.
Sligo Leitrim has 4 seats and an electorate of 94k. Mayo has 4 seats and an electorate of 93 k. Together the electorate is 187k. That means 9 seats. Not 8. Connacht should go to the Supreme Court.

deiseach

The Constitution allows for seats up to 30,000 in size. Given the requirement to have boundaries adhere to some kind of natural hinterland rather than snake - or salamander, if you prefer - their way around the landscape, Connacht would likely lose if it went to the Supreme Court in Dublin. Insert obvious joke here.

larryin89

Great news on lucifer creighton .

Driving fg into a coalition with Ff is a good plan for the left and Sinn Fein heading that opposition . But how on earth they can do it is beyond belief considering enda said 12 times pre election there was no chance of it happening and Martin also saying no way . I'm not surprised it's going to happen but it doesn't stop me thinking of how much bullshit is said pre election , how one party can base a lot of their campaign on showing how a party is not fit for govt and then go to bed with them after epitomises the sheer lies and hypocrisy our politics stands for. Would all traditional ff and fg voters of voted for their party if they knew what was going to happen (coalition of said parties) . Paddy power knew , 13/8 into 1/2 this week.
Walk-in down mchale rd , sun out, summers day , game day . That's all .

manfromdelmonte

Who cares.

People have voted, politicians have to respect the vote and try to work something out
Politics and the country moves on

larryin89

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 28, 2016, 09:57:36 AM
Who cares.

People have voted, politicians have to respect the vote and try to work something out
Politics and the country moves on

Who cares ! I do. This coalition makes a mockery of the pre election campaign of both parties. They lied again.
Walk-in down mchale rd , sun out, summers day , game day . That's all .

armaghniac

Quote from: larryin89 on February 28, 2016, 10:17:04 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 28, 2016, 09:57:36 AM
Who cares.

People have voted, politicians have to respect the vote and try to work something out
Politics and the country moves on

Who cares ! I do. This coalition makes a mockery of the pre election campaign of both parties. They lied again.

What do you suggest they do?
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

seafoid

The curse of austerity strikes FG and Lab. Last time it hit FF and the Greens.
Government is a poisoned chalice. #Frankfurt's way

seafoid

It looks like the Greens will get at least 2 seats

If there is a second election will any first timers who fail to get re elected qualify for a Dáil pension?

bcarrier

Quote from: armaghniac on February 28, 2016, 12:34:07 AM
Maureen O'Sullivan getting in from 7th place on first prefs in Dublin Central does illustrate that PR sometimes does lead to a different result.

The other aspect of PR is that FF have 125% more seats than SF.

It illustrates that there are far too many TDs.

Where in the world can you get into Parliament with 1990 first pref votes.

manfromdelmonte

Quote from: bcarrier on February 28, 2016, 01:07:22 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 28, 2016, 12:34:07 AM
Maureen O'Sullivan getting in from 7th place on first prefs in Dublin Central does illustrate that PR sometimes does lead to a different result.

The other aspect of PR is that FF have 125% more seats than SF.

It illustrates that there are far too many TDs.

Where in the world can you get into Parliament with 1990 first pref votes.
Err, Ireland it seems

From the Bunker

Quote from: bcarrier on February 28, 2016, 01:07:22 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 28, 2016, 12:34:07 AM
Maureen O'Sullivan getting in from 7th place on first prefs in Dublin Central does illustrate that PR sometimes does lead to a different result.

The other aspect of PR is that FF have 125% more seats than SF.

It illustrates that there are far too many TDs.

Where in the world can you get into Parliament with 1990 first pref votes.

She got elected on the back of a plethora of Candidates with the same ideals and platforms as herself. Her natural vote was diluted initially, but returned after eliminations. If it was first past the post you'd have no voice for all those ideals.