The Official 2016 Irish General Election thread

[muppet]

Early tally in Wexford:



5 seats I think, so either Howlin or Wallace in trouble, or both!

Just on RTÉ that Howlin will top poll.

Yea, obviously geographical vote at play in the early tallies.

[muppet]

One of the better tweets:

Brian Cowan ‏@_briancowan  3m3 minutes ago
#GE16 Mary Lou looking very sweaty, did she take running for election literally?

[Declan]

This line of mixed messages etc is nonsense. The grand coalition was well flagged as a possible outcome so anyone who voted for either FF or FG did so with that knowledge

[muppet]

This line of mixed messages etc is nonsense. The grand coalition was well flagged as a possible outcome so anyone who voted for either FF or FG did so with that knowledge

Especially if transfers break tradition and go from one to the other......

[Declan]

Especially if transfers break tradition and go from one to the other......

Agreed

[muppet]

Another consideration is a complete variable, i.e. the reaction of the EU, US, Eurozone, IMF etc to talk of a far-left party in Government in Dublin. But if that is mooted expect some reaction.

[Declan]

Remember in the national interest

   Arthur Beesley (@BeesleyIT)
27/02/2016, 16:07
Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil sources admit coalition likely irishtimes.com/news/politics/... via IrishTimes

[seafoid]

Another consideration is a complete variable, i.e. the reaction of the EU, US, Eurozone, IMF etc to talk of a far-left party in Government in Dublin. But if that is mooted expect some reaction.

Why not? QE doesn't work. Giving money to the rich doesn't work. They won't invest it. They just speculate it. Only way to get growth going is to build social housing and give serious pay rises to workers. PBP make more economic sense these days than FG.

[armaghniac]

Another consideration is a complete variable, i.e. the reaction of the EU, US, Eurozone, IMF etc to talk of a far-left party in Government in Dublin. But if that is mooted expect some reaction.

This is overlooked. If SF somehow formed a government the cost of running would rise instantly as bond yields rose.

[muppet]

Another consideration is a complete variable, i.e. the reaction of the EU, US, Eurozone, IMF etc to talk of a far-left party in Government in Dublin. But if that is mooted expect some reaction.

Why not? QE doesn't work. Giving money to the rich doesn't work. They won't invest it. They just speculate it. Only way to get growth going is to build social housing and give serious pay rises to workers. PBP make more economic sense these days than FG.

I'm not sure what you are responding to. We still have to borrow money to function. Rightly or wrongly, the international community can and often does strong-arm countries when they don't like an election result, and given our debt they have plenty of leverage.

[Declan]

INBOX: "BoyleSports Pay Out On Fine Gael/Fianna Fáil As Next Irish Government"

[weareros]

This line of mixed messages etc is nonsense. The grand coalition was well flagged as a possible outcome so anyone who voted for either FF or FG did so with that knowledge

Actually Fine Gael was clear to their voters they would not go into coalition with FF. The Irish people have voted FG and Labour out and if numbers work voted for a rainbow of Fianna Fáil, Sinn Fein and like minded independents.

[muppet]

INBOX: "BoyleSports Pay Out On Fine Gael/Fianna Fáil As Next Irish Government"

FF won't do it if they think there is a chance of more seats in another election later in the year. But if they are happy with what they have this time, ie behind FG but ahead of SF, then they might actually bite the bullet. I think Kenny won't want it, but a lot of his party might. And Kenny is on thinning ice all the time.

So maybe......

[Rossfan]

Willie O'D says they can't leave opposition to the Shinners.

[seafoid]

Another consideration is a complete variable, i.e. the reaction of the EU, US, Eurozone, IMF etc to talk of a far-left party in Government in Dublin. But if that is mooted expect some reaction.

Why not? QE doesn't work. Giving money to the rich doesn't work. They won't invest it. They just speculate it. Only way to get growth going is to build social housing and give serious pay rises to workers. PBP make more economic sense these days than FG.

I'm not sure what you are responding to. We still have to borrow money to function. Rightly or wrongly, the international community can and often does strong-arm countries when they don't like an election result, and given our debt they have plenty of leverage.

The right wing approach has been tried since 2011 or 2008 or whenever you fancy  and it doesn't work.  Bailing out the bondholders didn't work. Euro zone deflation is 0.3%. PBP would be classed as not serious but their economic policies would be more rational than FG's.