[Merged] Religion topic Bishop Eamon reaffirms Catholic teaching & Cinemas refusing to show ad featu

[J70]

Tony, loose the drama and keep it on point.

Its discriminatory and borderline offensive but its not the same as saying that they dont want Christians around.

How is it disciminatory?

Because the add has been banned.

And?

[Rossfan]

Tony, loose the drama and keep it on point.

Its discriminatory and borderline offensive but its not the same as saying that they dont want Christians around.

How is it disciminatory?

Because the add has been banned.

And?

If you ban one ad and continue to show others that's discriminatory.

[J70]

An article on this.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/22/cinema-chains-ban-advert-featuring-lords-prayer


The Ad.

http://www.justpray.uk/

Seems pretty straightforward that these companies want to stay the hell away from religious issues.

If they chose to air Jewish or Muslim prayer ads or Richard Dawkins telling the audience they were all wishful thinking morons for believing in prayer, but refused the CofE ad, then Tony's whining about persecution might be warranted. If its a case of "f**k the lot of yez", I don't see any cause for complaint. And certainly no evidence of persecution.

Which is not to say that people should not be a little  more thick skinned and tolerant of diversity!

As an atheist I would be too bothered by such an ad.

But then again I grew up in Ireland with religion  being shoved down my gob at every turn!

Does RTE still broadcast the Angelus?

I've no problem with the Angelus. Nor should anyone in the british isles. If people want this place to become a Muslim country then the cinema chain are going the right way about it.

Are you suggesting that refusing to air a religious ad is a step in the direction towards sharia law??

I've no problem with the Angelus either, but I'm not the one whining because MY religion is not being recognized.

What would your attitude be if it WAS a Dawkins atheist ad that was or wasn't allowed to air?

[J70]

Tony, loose the drama and keep it on point.

Its discriminatory and borderline offensive but its not the same as saying that they dont want Christians around.

How is it disciminatory?

Because the add has been banned.

And?

If you ban one ad and continue to show others that's discriminatory.

I'm sorry, "others" as in other ads or other religious ads?

[omaghjoe]

Tony, loose the drama and keep it on point.

Its discriminatory and borderline offensive but its not the same as saying that they dont want Christians around.

How is it disciminatory?

Because the add has been banned.

And?

...and the cinema (if its like any other) shows ads promoting a whole range of other ideas and products

[Orior]

Are you suggesting that refusing to air a religious ad is a step in the direction towards sharia law??

I've no problem with the Angelus either, but I'm not the one whining because MY religion is not being recognized.

What would your attitude be if it WAS a Dawkins atheist ad that was or wasn't allowed to air?

I've no problem with either. I've seen men holding hands. It hasn't turned me. I've seen an Orange parade. It hasn't turned me. I've watched the odd show about Dawkins, but  it hasn't turned me. So I would not complain about other religions advertising.

The banning of the advert is the thin end of the wedge. Eventually the absence of christian principles will create a vacuum into which Sharii law will step in. And once in power, the Taliban wont bow to the pathetic whims of atheists.

[J70]

Tony, loose the drama and keep it on point.

Its discriminatory and borderline offensive but its not the same as saying that they dont want Christians around.

How is it disciminatory?

Because the add has been banned.

And?

...and the cinema (if its like any other) shows ads promoting a whole range of other ideas and products

By that standard the porn industry must be up in arms as well so!

[J70]

Are you suggesting that refusing to air a religious ad is a step in the direction towards sharia law??

I've no problem with the Angelus either, but I'm not the one whining because MY religion is not being recognized.

What would your attitude be if it WAS a Dawkins atheist ad that was or wasn't allowed to air?

I've no problem with either. I've seen men holding hands. It hasn't turned me. I've seen an Orange parade. It hasn't turned me. I've watched the odd show about Dawkins, but  it hasn't turned me. So I would not complain about other religions advertising.

The banning of the advert is the thin end of the wedge. Eventually the absence of christian principles will create a vacuum into which Sharii law will step in. And once in power, the Taliban wont bow to the pathetic whims of atheists.

So people will swap a fairly mild Anglican consensus with religion kept private for the f**king Taliban?

[gallsman]

Jesus, some serious logic flaws here. "It's discriminatory because they won't show an ad featuring a Christian prayer but will show you one trying to flog you a new car".

[Orior]

Are you suggesting that refusing to air a religious ad is a step in the direction towards sharia law??

I've no problem with the Angelus either, but I'm not the one whining because MY religion is not being recognized.

What would your attitude be if it WAS a Dawkins atheist ad that was or wasn't allowed to air?

I've no problem with either. I've seen men holding hands. It hasn't turned me. I've seen an Orange parade. It hasn't turned me. I've watched the odd show about Dawkins, but  it hasn't turned me. So I would not complain about other religions advertising.

The banning of the advert is the thin end of the wedge. Eventually the absence of christian principles will create a vacuum into which Sharii law will step in. And once in power, the Taliban wont bow to the pathetic whims of atheists.

So people will swap a fairly mild Anglican consensus with religion kept private for the f**king Taliban?

It wont happen overnight. And neither did the Taliban and ISIS.

[screenexile]

Are you suggesting that refusing to air a religious ad is a step in the direction towards sharia law??

I've no problem with the Angelus either, but I'm not the one whining because MY religion is not being recognized.

What would your attitude be if it WAS a Dawkins atheist ad that was or wasn't allowed to air?

I've no problem with either. I've seen men holding hands. It hasn't turned me. I've seen an Orange parade. It hasn't turned me. I've watched the odd show about Dawkins, but  it hasn't turned me. So I would not complain about other religions advertising.

The banning of the advert is the thin end of the wedge. Eventually the absence of christian principles will create a vacuum into which Sharii law will step in. And once in power, the Taliban wont bow to the pathetic whims of atheists.

So people will swap a fairly mild Anglican consensus with religion kept private for the f**king Taliban?

I think Religion will disappear in the next 2/300 years. Its getting diluted more and more as each generation passes.

Having said that the general idea of treating others as you wish to be treated will prevail and the world will still be just fine... Peace and love everyone!!

[J70]

Are you suggesting that refusing to air a religious ad is a step in the direction towards sharia law??

I've no problem with the Angelus either, but I'm not the one whining because MY religion is not being recognized.

What would your attitude be if it WAS a Dawkins atheist ad that was or wasn't allowed to air?

I've no problem with either. I've seen men holding hands. It hasn't turned me. I've seen an Orange parade. It hasn't turned me. I've watched the odd show about Dawkins, but  it hasn't turned me. So I would not complain about other religions advertising.

The banning of the advert is the thin end of the wedge. Eventually the absence of christian principles will create a vacuum into which Sharii law will step in. And once in power, the Taliban wont bow to the pathetic whims of atheists.

So people will swap a fairly mild Anglican consensus with religion kept private for the f**king Taliban?

It wont happen overnight. And neither did the Taliban and ISIS.

I think the circumstances that gave rise to ISIS and the Taliban were just a little different to the typical modern, secular western society.

[J70]

Jesus, some serious logic flaws here. "It's discriminatory because they won't show an ad featuring a Christian prayer but will show you one trying to flog you a new car".

Yep, the only way this could be demonstrated to be discriminatory would be if these cinemas were showing prayer commercials for other religions while rejecting the Anglican one. Christ, we should be all familiar with sectarian practises at this stage!

[omaghjoe]

Lets keep it on point lads...

J70... I think you are well aware your analogy is false. Prehaps we could discuss the point and not have us wading through the fallacies of an irrelevant analogy.

[J70]

Lets keep it on point lads...

J70... I think you are well aware your analogy is false. Prehaps we could discuss the point and not have us wading through the fallacies of an irrelevant analogy.

No, I'm not seeing the falsity Joe.

You will have to explain it.