Brexit.

Started by T Fearon, November 01, 2015, 06:04:06 PM

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seafoid


mouview

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/boris-johnson-dominic-cummings-partygate-video-85h8x3lqm

Good article here on BJ's downfall.

For £1 a month, an online sub to The Times is very good value.

Wildweasel74

Only thing I say qbout Brexit, it's the main reason. I think food got so dear on it.

seafoid

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 09, 2024, 10:20:02 PMOnly thing I say qbout Brexit, it's the main reason. I think food got so dear on it.
Brexit drove higher inflation.

Rossfan

Jamie Bryson maintains his losing record in Court again I see.

Yer MLAs to vote on maintaining Windsor Agrement arrangements.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Sportacus

#10685
Unionist's will vote against, and why wouldn't they, there's a solid Irish Sea Border. 
Everyone else will vote in favour because it's the only feasible solution.
Just another day at Stormont.

Ronnie

What ever happened to the Brexit debates?

seafoid

https://x.com/LizWebsterSBF/status/1998158040533799095

The Brexit majority hasn't just slipped it's vanished. Completely. This chart from Peter Kellner/YouGov shows: • 5 million 2016 voters have died • New young voters back Rejoin by 5:1 • 29% of Leave voters now want to rejoin • Net result: Rejoin 19.8m vs Stay Out 11.7m  An 8 MILLION majority for Rejoin. Britain is now a pro-EU country. The only people keeping Brexit alive are politicians who benefit from the damage

mouview

Quote from: seafoid on May 13, 2026, 01:25:46 PMhttps://x.com/LizWebsterSBF/status/1998158040533799095

The Brexit majority hasn't just slipped it's vanished. Completely. This chart from Peter Kellner/YouGov shows: • 5 million 2016 voters have died • New young voters back Rejoin by 5:1 • 29% of Leave voters now want to rejoin • Net result: Rejoin 19.8m vs Stay Out 11.7m  An 8 MILLION majority for Rejoin. Britain is now a pro-EU country. The only people keeping Brexit alive are politicians who benefit from the damage

Starmer is fighting tooth and nail for his premiership to survive. He is hoping, quite correctly, that he and his party's prospects in the next GE will hinge upon and improve following a closer pivot to the EU, which he has signalled in today's King's speech to parliament. Who knows, Rejoin may come back onto the agenda if this goes well. That is why I think it's vital for our own and the EU's interests that he ride out the current turbulence and hold on as PM.

Baile Brigín 2

We are making a big assumption that the EU want them back or even want to renegotiate closer ties.


Milltown Row2

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on May 13, 2026, 02:04:26 PMWe are making a big assumption that the EU want them back or even want to renegotiate closer ties.



The president of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, expressed her support for the UK eventually rejoining the EU. In September 2023 Keir Starmer, leader of the Labour Party and the now-Prime Minister of the UK, ruled out the possibility of the UK rejoining the EU under a Starmer-led Labour government.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Armagh18

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2026, 02:42:25 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on May 13, 2026, 02:04:26 PMWe are making a big assumption that the EU want them back or even want to renegotiate closer ties.



The president of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, expressed her support for the UK eventually rejoining the EU. In September 2023 Keir Starmer, leader of the Labour Party and the now-Prime Minister of the UK, ruled out the possibility of the UK rejoining the EU under a Starmer-led Labour government.
2 absolute c***ts I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw...

johnnycool

Quote from: Armagh18 on May 13, 2026, 02:43:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2026, 02:42:25 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on May 13, 2026, 02:04:26 PMWe are making a big assumption that the EU want them back or even want to renegotiate closer ties.



The president of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, expressed her support for the UK eventually rejoining the EU. In September 2023 Keir Starmer, leader of the Labour Party and the now-Prime Minister of the UK, ruled out the possibility of the UK rejoining the EU under a Starmer-led Labour government.
2 absolute c***ts I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw...

Beat me to it.

If anything Von der Leyen is a bigger cúnt that Starmer and that takes some doing.


mouview

Quote from: johnnycool on May 13, 2026, 03:08:29 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 13, 2026, 02:43:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2026, 02:42:25 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on May 13, 2026, 02:04:26 PMWe are making a big assumption that the EU want them back or even want to renegotiate closer ties.



The president of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, expressed her support for the UK eventually rejoining the EU. In September 2023 Keir Starmer, leader of the Labour Party and the now-Prime Minister of the UK, ruled out the possibility of the UK rejoining the EU under a Starmer-led Labour government.
2 absolute c***ts I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw...

Beat me to it.

If anything Von der Leyen is a bigger cúnt that Starmer and that takes some doing.


So where does that leave the likes of Boris Johnson, Truss, Farage, DUP et all who campaigned so vigourously for Brexit? Starmer is as pro-Irish a PM as there's been in quite a while.

weareros


From Irish Times

Most Northern Ireland residents who voted for Brexit believe it has failed, poll finds

Despite dwindling support, Queens University study finds 'leaver' and 'remainer' identities are valued
Northern Ireland voted to remain in the EU by 56%, but the UK as a whole voted to leave. Photograph: Getty Images
Northern Ireland voted to remain in the EU by 56%, but the UK as a whole voted to leave. Photograph: Getty Images

Freya McClements Northern Editor
Fri May 15 2026

3 MIN READ
The majority of voters in Northern Ireland, including among those who voted to leave the EU, agree Brexit has been more of a failure than a success, according to new research from Queen's University Belfast.

Ten years on from the referendum, the university found 72 per cent of Northern voters agreed with the statement, and 60 per cent among those who voted to leave.


The study, published on Friday, also found two-thirds of voters – 66 per cent – believed Brexit had made the break-up of the UK more likely.

It showed a "strong" preference for closer ties with the EU; 59 per cent of voters opposed further loosening of UK-EU ties and 57 per cent supported the UK rejoining.

The research was carried out for Queen's by Belfast-based polling company LucidTalk. It is the 15th report in the university's Testing the Temperature series, led by professors David Phinnemore and Katy Hayward, surveying the views of the North's voters on Brexit, the Northern Ireland Protocol and the Windsor Framework.

It was conducted between April 17th and 20th this year using a weighted sample of 1,050 respondents from across Northern Ireland.


In the Brexit referendum, held on June 23rd, 2016, Northern Ireland voted to remain in the EU by 56 per cent to 44 per cent, but the UK as a whole voted narrowly to leave, by 52 per cent to 48 per cent.

The research indicated voters "remain divided" over the legitimacy of the Brexit vote, with 40 per cent agreeing it was based on a fair democratic process and 48 per cent disagreeing.

It also found the Brexit-related identities of "leaver" or "remainer" continued to be "very important" to a majority – 52 per cent – of voters, and this was particularly the case among leavers and older voters.


Hayward said the importance of identity to one in two voters constituted an "additional layer of division broadly on top of existing ones".

She said the dominant theme in comments from those surveyed was "Brexit is a failure" and this was for two distinct reasons.

"Remainers say it's a failure because it was an act of national self-harm and they didn't want it anyway, and for leavers it's a failure because Northern Ireland never got Brexit," she explained.


"One person said, 'I voted leave to get rid of European laws and that's about all that they kept'. So there's a sense that it wasn't fully achieved in Northern Ireland.

"That's why I think you see that sense that it's been more a failure in Northern Ireland, and particularly that view among leavers, that's about 10 percentage points higher than the figure in [Great Britain]."

The study also found that while most Northern voters remained "broadly accepting" of the Windsor Framework – Northern Ireland's post-Brexit trading arrangements – support was "weakening" amid "declining public understanding".

A total of 58 per cent said they had a "good understanding" of the framework – the lowest level since polling began. Forty-six per cent now regarded it as "on balance a good thing for Northern Ireland" – the lowest level since June 2021 – and 46 per cent view it as an appropriate means of addressing Brexit in Northern Ireland, down from 61 per cent in summer 2024.

"With the UK and EU negotiating new agreements that are expected to reduce trade frictions arising from the Windsor Framework, it will be important that the new arrangements are clearly and reliably explained," Phinnemore said.

"If they are not, then this will only further damage trust levels in the UK government and the EU."