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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10260 on: June 28, 2022, 01:05:15 PM »
May speaks out strongly against it then abstains? Dont understand this shizzle at all.

Lots of abstainers who if theyd voted couldve meant a difference...

Teresa May is one of the most evil politicians on the planet. She ran the home office and talked about a hostile environment for immigrants. Evil bitch.

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« Reply #10261 on: June 28, 2022, 03:11:17 PM »
Her opposition is all do do with Johnson knifing her between the shoulder blades rather than any great moralistic stance against the Brits' illegal actions. She's as poisonous as the rest of those Tory scum.

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« Reply #10262 on: June 28, 2022, 09:26:28 PM »
Brexit is a fóidín_mearaí. , which is a  spot of ground on which one is supposed to be led astray, a cause of confusion.
It's a clusterfuck. It makes everything worse.
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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10263 on: June 29, 2022, 09:31:20 PM »
https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2022/0629/1307603-protocol-maroa-sefcovic/

EU would allow 'green lane' for goods into N Ireland - Šefčovič
Updated / Wednesday, 29 Jun 2022 20:32
The EU's chief Brexit negotiator Maroš Šefcovic speaking at a Bloomberg event
The EU's chief Brexit negotiator Maroš Šefcovic speaking at a Bloomberg event
By John Kilraine
London Correspondent

The EU would allow a green lane for goods being imported into Northern Ireland from Britain as part of a "robust offer" to resolve difficulties over the Protocol, according to its chief Brexit negotiator Maroš Šefčovič.

However Mr Šefčovič, speaking at a Bloomberg event, said it would not be possible to do away with checks completely.

He also said that the EU will not negotiate on the basis of the Northern Ireland Protocol Bill currently going through the British parliament which he said is a breach of international law.

Under the offer made last October and fleshed out two weeks ago he said the EU had gone the extra mile.

The proposals would reduce sanitary and phytosanitary checks by more than 80%, cut customs paperwork in half, create a green lane for goods destined for Northern Ireland, simpler certification and allow the movement of goods that had been restricted such as chilled meats.

"This robust offer can work, and it can work fast," he said, pointing out that the medicines supply issue had been resolved.

However he warned that the EU has its limits.

"We must protect the integrity of the EU's Single Market and our consumers," Mr Šefčovič said.

"It is simply unrealistic – and unfair – for London to expect that all barriers can be lifted when goods move to Northern Ireland from the rest of the UK.

"On this, the UK government needs to be honest at home and respectful vis-ŕ-vis the EU. Zero checks is not an option."

He said there could be an option of putting a sticker on goods destined for Northern Ireland.

However he said the pre-Brexit reality is no longer an option.

"I can bring as many solutions to the table as possible, and I have done so, but I cannot force political will on someone else’s behalf," Mr Šefčovič.
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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10264 on: June 30, 2022, 07:29:24 AM »
And yet at the House of Commons they continually speak of the EU not shifting, being difficult etc.  Someone's not telling the truth and I know who I believe

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« Reply #10265 on: June 30, 2022, 08:28:32 AM »
It looks like they haven’t even bothered trying to negotiate with the eu at all. The protocol is just something to stick two fingers up to the eu with. I dunno if they are looking leverage with it or what.

The lcc and the dup are pawns. Someone is getting shafted here and it is just a question of who. Let’s hope it is the dup but who knows.

When you think they can’t find someone as bad as they have they wheel out another one. Truss a shameless, self serving flat out liar as bad as most of the rest of them.

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10266 on: July 01, 2022, 04:55:47 PM »
And yet at the House of Commons they continually speak of the EU not shifting, being difficult etc.  Someone's not telling the truth and I know who I believe
This is not about the protocol, the lie that the EU is intransigent suits the internal politics of the tory party. There is a mix of jockeying for the leadership and hoping to win the next election by vilifying the EU.

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10267 on: July 01, 2022, 05:37:49 PM »
Remember we're a noble race from a land where Kings once trod.

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« Reply #10268 on: July 01, 2022, 06:17:34 PM »
https://www.ft.com/content/abc098e2-6529-44e8-9365-ef0a1ba70194

At every choice, Johnson has refused to dilute his Brexit vision for the sake of the Union. In the current row over the Northern Ireland protocol, which creates a trade barrier between the province and the rest of the UK, he could ease friction by adopting EU agri-food rules in the rest of the UK. But this would effectively kill hopes of other trade deals, notably with the US
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« Reply #10269 on: July 01, 2022, 06:55:30 PM »
https://www.ft.com/content/abc098e2-6529-44e8-9365-ef0a1ba70194

At every choice, Johnson has refused to dilute his Brexit vision for the sake of the Union. In the current row over the Northern Ireland protocol, which creates a trade barrier between the province and the rest of the UK, he could ease friction by adopting EU agri-food rules in the rest of the UK. But this would effectively kill hopes of other trade deals, notably with the US

He is likely not going to get a deal with the US anyway. But he won't get one if the Protocol is not rock solid and he is spending his time trying to give the impression that it is not.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10270 on: July 01, 2022, 08:09:11 PM »
With Brexit costing 4% of GDP annually, increasing inflation and deepening downturns plus volatility and inflation every 2 years , Brexit is a waste of time.
The gobshites who voted Leave will not benefit from it.
for Ireland , things work out sometimes

https://www.ft.com/content/abc098e2-6529-44e8-9365-ef0a1ba70194
 And, beneath it all, is the Unionists’ conviction that they are losing every battle. The Brexit they backed to loosen links to the Irish Republic has instead weakened ties with the UK.
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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10271 on: July 01, 2022, 09:57:30 PM »
A friend was telling me that he met an English pensioner in a caravan park in Dublin who had just arrived in Ireland off the boat in a camper van and was mad looking for milk to make a brew as his had been confiscated at the port. Quite funny really
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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10272 on: July 01, 2022, 11:29:57 PM »
A friend was telling me that he met an English pensioner in a caravan park in Dublin who had just arrived in Ireland off the boat in a camper van and was mad looking for milk to make a brew as his had been confiscated at the port. Quite funny really

This was always the case, ireland north and south. You could never bring milk from London to say Belfast.

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10273 on: July 05, 2022, 09:59:43 AM »

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #10274 on: July 05, 2022, 10:04:43 AM »