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« Reply #4590 on: October 10, 2018, 09:33:13 PM »
The DUP will do what keeps them in power, they won't care what British public think of them, just what their voters here think.

That's grand while the Tory/DUP deal is still running. However if the DUP stiff the Tories then all bets are off. Expect salaries at Stormont slashed very quickly. The 1 billion deal will be gone in a puff of smoke. Expect lots of talk in the Telegraph and Mail about the 10 billion a year subvention to NI and why are the home counties paying for it. Do not doubt that the Tories are the real nasty party. If they are being nasty to the DUP that will be funny but us in the north will end up as collateral damage ( and Im not talking about w**kers in Stormont )

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« Reply #4591 on: October 10, 2018, 09:34:08 PM »
The only thing would now maybe be a concern is if May is throwing the DUP under the bus on Brexit what could she try and offer them to keep them on board to get the next budget passed?

* No Military prosecutions.
* More Dough. How much of the 1 billion has NI seen so far?
* A few house of lords seats.
* Direct Rule.

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« Reply #4592 on: October 11, 2018, 08:16:56 AM »
A cabinet meeting called today to discuss the DUP threat to not pass the budget. Which would result in either labour backing it ot a government fail and probably a new election.

Be careful what you wish for Arlene....
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« Reply #4593 on: October 11, 2018, 08:45:31 AM »
A cabinet meeting called today to discuss the DUP threat to not pass the budget. Which would result in either labour backing it ot a government fail and probably a new election.

Be careful what you wish for Arlene....

Would Labour get in if there was an election?
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« Reply #4594 on: October 11, 2018, 10:09:26 AM »
A cabinet meeting called today to discuss the DUP threat to not pass the budget. Which would result in either labour backing it ot a government fail and probably a new election.

Be careful what you wish for Arlene....

Would Labour get in if there was an election?

Don't think so, feel neither party would secure a majority......coalition time again....this time with UKIP

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« Reply #4595 on: October 11, 2018, 10:15:26 AM »
A cabinet meeting called today to discuss the DUP threat to not pass the budget. Which would result in either labour backing it ot a government fail and probably a new election.

Be careful what you wish for Arlene....

Would Labour get in if there was an election?


Don't think so, feel neither party would secure a majority......coalition time again....this time with UKIP

Labour & everyone bar the Tories/DUP in a softer/no brexit coalition is possible

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« Reply #4596 on: October 11, 2018, 10:31:04 AM »
A lot of Labour heartlands voted for Brexit.

Corbyn needs to walk a tightrope


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« Reply #4597 on: October 11, 2018, 10:42:04 AM »
A cabinet meeting called today to discuss the DUP threat to not pass the budget. Which would result in either labour backing it ot a government fail and probably a new election.

Be careful what you wish for Arlene....

Would Labour get in if there was an election?

Don't think so, feel neither party would secure a majority......coalition time again....this time with UKIP

Labour will rise again on the campaign trail, Corbyn is excellent under the microscope, they are quite ineffective as opposition, the party is fractured, been the case for 10 years now, socialist wing vs New Labour wing. If Labour MPs would focus on effective opposition to the Tories instead of shitting on their own doorstep they could actually achieve something. Surely Scotland wouldn't go as Tory as it did last time, complete and utter shambles what happened there. Labour electing Ed Milliband instead of David Milliband all those years ago has had a profound effect on events since.

DUP have 10 MPs and got a C&S deal, UKIP have none and wouln't jump from 0 to anywhere near 10 so no chance of a coalition. They'll not get a single seat.

I think Labour would take a narrow majority in an election, Tories stuck between a rock and hard place, the b**tard state and Frankenstien party they are in league with will be their downfall, the Tories have no gra for anything other than money and power, same as the DUP, both will cannibalise themselves in this term.

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« Reply #4598 on: October 11, 2018, 11:05:42 AM »
At this stage I  there will be a Brexit plan support mechanism with labour supplying enough support (unofficial s and c) with dup being told to go fcuk themselves. They will be shafted big time and really the electorate needs to turn on them for it in the future. Line down the Irish Sea to appear..the north could have been lead better, and with no stormont and no opposition the dup have inadvertently finished n I

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« Reply #4599 on: October 11, 2018, 11:41:02 AM »
As the UK EU exit deal nears closer I think people here are still a little bit blase about the actual consequences although I do notice a lot more fear as the deadline approaches.

Once the practical consequence become evident in the buisness, farming, manufacturing and tourism sectors alongside others though, I think the DUP may face a backlash from the crucial middle of the road voters. That is,unless they have a complete U turn and push for a best of both worlds deal for the 6 counties which will not happen. Either way they are self destructing when it comes to preserving their sacred Union by being strong advocates of Brexit.   

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« Reply #4600 on: October 11, 2018, 12:31:33 PM »
I'd say the DUP and the hardline Brexiteers are in cahoots on this one.

Making life difficult for May on the budget could possibly push the Tories into a leadership battle and I honestly believe that the DUP think Boris or Fox are more aligned to their rationale than May.

Hardline Brexiteers can then blame the DUP for Mays departure with clean hands as they set about f**king up Brexit with a no deal scenario.

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« Reply #4601 on: October 11, 2018, 12:34:15 PM »
A lot of Labour heartlands voted for Brexit.

Corbyn needs to walk a tightrope
polls are saying most of them would now vote Remain
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« Reply #4602 on: October 11, 2018, 12:48:49 PM »
I'd say the DUP and the hardline Brexiteers are in cahoots on this one.

Making life difficult for May on the budget could possibly push the Tories into a leadership battle and I honestly believe that the DUP think Boris or Fox are more aligned to their rationale than May.

Hardline Brexiteers can then blame the DUP for Mays departure with clean hands as they set about f**king up Brexit with a no deal scenario.

Fair point, but the DUP will know that the hard line Brexiteers will use them to advance their own cause of overthrowing May but these hardline Brexiteers are still no less likely to throw the DUP under a bus than the present government are.

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« Reply #4603 on: October 11, 2018, 02:13:27 PM »
Any chance Corbyn could topple the Tories, take power in a GE, back a new referendum, win it and take up the old mantle of the British in the EU.

If he pulled it off hed have some serious political capital to spend both with an EU whod owe him for overturning Brexit and at home where hed have successfully trumped two major plebisciles and cemented a avid leftist voter base for overturning Brexit.
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« Reply #4604 on: October 11, 2018, 02:22:13 PM »
A lot of Labour heartlands voted for Brexit.

Corbyn needs to walk a tightrope
polls are saying most of them would now vote Remain

Interesting, any polls I have seen is that the leave and remain votes have barely changed, and if anything have become more entrenched.