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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #795 on: June 26, 2016, 11:19:59 AM »
Looks like the labour party imploding now too. I wonder do they smell another general election and think another leader may have a good crack at it.
If they were organised they could break the Tories
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« Reply #796 on: June 26, 2016, 11:22:47 AM »
we will all be broke before the cons are!!

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« Reply #797 on: June 26, 2016, 11:25:48 AM »
Gove and Johnson lied to the schmucks who voted leave. There is no money for the NHS . They can't stop immigration.
We are living in very volatile times.
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« Reply #798 on: June 26, 2016, 11:53:00 AM »
Its now looking like they need the agreement of Scotland and possibly NI parliments consent. The UK is heading for an implosion on this. You couldnt make this stuff up.

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« Reply #799 on: June 26, 2016, 12:10:36 PM »
Leave was an English and Welsh thing. 
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« Reply #800 on: June 26, 2016, 12:37:53 PM »
There will be great difficulty enforcing this result.  Nevermind the potential veto that Scotland and NI  have, there is a real constitutional problem about forcing it through.  By announcing his resignation and delaying the invoking of Art 50 Cameron has created a real political vacuum.  I genuinely think this was a deliberate tactic for his own political gain.  He fully expected a remain vote and this would have seen him being the man who gave people the vote for choice and they made the choice.  He would walk out the next morning and be seen as a real leader and statesman in Europe and at home.  UKs position in the EU would be solidified and he would have a mandate to push through his policies. 

By walking away and giving a few months before the Art 50 is invoked he now has created a situation where there will be an inevitable backlash against the result and potential ramifications of it.  The potential leaders of the Tory party, BJ, Gove et al, will be left with a real poison chalice of risking pushing through the removal of the Britain from the EU and the possible breakup of Britain with Sturgeon pushing another independence vote(with a fair chance of a win) and the basket case of ourselves and whatever happens here.   The reality is that for the PM to resign he actually needs the consent of the Queen.  While this is generally a formality this is a completely unusual situation and the Queen to actually invoke her constitutional authority 'for the greater good' of Britain and not accept it.  What better British rally cry for the gullible masses to follow than Lizzie II?  Cameron 'reluctantly' regains his position and then says that for the greater good and to retain stability he stays in position and renegotiates a deal with EU to change Britains position within the EU to allow it to have greater control over its own laws yet still remain a part of the EU.

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« Reply #801 on: June 26, 2016, 12:39:44 PM »
Its now looking like they need the agreement of Scotland and possibly NI parliments consent. The UK is heading for an implosion on this. You couldnt make this stuff up.
Eh? Where have you pulled that from? Westminster is the daddy.

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« Reply #802 on: June 26, 2016, 12:41:33 PM »
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Not surprised with the brexit - it's a protest reaction to illegal immigration. Maybe now the EU will change their policy to stop any more states from voting the same way.

Illegal immigration largely brought about by the successive British and US governments making  North-African and Middle East communities economically uninhabitable by creating war-zones, killing thousands and displacing millions. Now the war-monger attempts to shut its border leaving the EU to deal with its folly.  May the families of Bush, Obama, Blair and Cameron suffer the same fate they dealt on other families.

Immigration is a key neoliberal policy. It drives wages down and means more profit for the rich

Yes, as practiced by the Romans, Egyptians & Ancient Greeks, the neoliberal b**tards.
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« Reply #803 on: June 26, 2016, 12:48:45 PM »
Jean Claude says BREXIT will not be an amicable divorce!
Good old Jean Claude  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPgiI46FCDU

Cant believe the public elects these guys... eh wait a minute

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« Reply #804 on: June 26, 2016, 12:57:09 PM »
Unlimited debt
unlimited immigration
unlimited wealth for the richest

That is the current economic system
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« Reply #805 on: June 26, 2016, 01:00:01 PM »
I am beginning to be convinced there will be another vote. But one of the problems is that Britain has very few friends in Europe and some people will relish evicting them. I think in a month or two that feeling will recede.
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« Reply #806 on: June 26, 2016, 01:13:54 PM »
Its now looking like they need the agreement of Scotland and possibly NI parliments consent. The UK is heading for an implosion on this. You couldnt make this stuff up.
Eh? Where have you pulled that from? Westminster is the daddy.

Sturgon has pulled it out of her back pocket. Part of the set up of the scottish parliment. To over turn requires westminster to with draw powers back to London.

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« Reply #807 on: June 26, 2016, 01:14:14 PM »
NEXIT.......last one out gets Greece.

In all seriousness given the result of the referendum, will other European Union countries follow? Will it bring a halt to the drive for the political unification of Europe? Really we are in unchartered and very dangerous water.

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« Reply #808 on: June 26, 2016, 01:17:49 PM »
What a great result for the fine people who supported leaving . . .

Here's what some of these lovely folk have been up to the past few days:

https://www.twitter.com/postrefracism

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« Reply #809 on: June 26, 2016, 01:51:38 PM »
Nicola Sturgeon says MSPs at Holyrood could veto Brexit - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36633244

Overplaying her hand I would imagine.