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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #540 on: June 24, 2016, 11:15:46 AM »
Presumably the Loyalist "Brigadiers" will have to raise their extortion rates to make up for the loss of the EU " Community" funding ;)
What will happen to all them big Unionist farmers when the CAP cheques stop?
Meanwhile the quicker the Scots take their courage in their hands and go Independent the better.
1 BIG CUP and 1 Cupeen so far....

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« Reply #541 on: June 24, 2016, 11:18:18 AM »
SF can posture all they like on a border poll, and the is all it is posturing. The fact seems to be at the moment a sizeable section of the formerly nationalist community have accepted the union, the fleg and gongs from the Queen. This has been reinforced by SF rolling over at every turn to DUP demands.

As you say a sizable amount have accepted the British union and the trimmings it comes with because they believe they are better off financially within it, I don't think they've coem round to a British Identity though, the push on a Northern Irish Identity is probably helping it head that way though.

This is a fickle and self serving part of the population though, if the financial allure isn't with Britain then they aren't either

Between 1932 and 1972 a much greater part of the "nationalist community" had accepted the Union or at least unionist rule. That many are now also content with their lot is irrelevant. Swings and roundabouts, you always get another chance, just a matter of keeping the faith and being ready to capitalise on changed circumstances. SF should milk this for all it worth, you can be sure the SNP are going to do the same in Scotland and fair fcks to them. 

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #542 on: June 24, 2016, 11:19:41 AM »
Why did the Jo Cox murder change your mind?

Because I couldn't vote on the same side as the people that inspired her murderer. For me that's akin to voting for Paisley in his heyday.

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« Reply #543 on: June 24, 2016, 11:20:15 AM »
Have to say im not surprised the leave side have carried through, i said on this thread about a month ago the majority i met day to day were voting leave and yesterday was like a bank holiday with people trying to get of London to vote in their home constituencies all over England .  The remain side were way too complacent and Labour have a lot to answer for hiding Corbyn away and not putting some of their other leaders on the front line until it was way too late.
He was the first man on calling for Article 50 to be invoked immediately even when the Leave campaign were saying Now, now, lets not be hasty.
He wasn't put forward as he is anti-Europe.

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« Reply #544 on: June 24, 2016, 11:24:59 AM »
Presumably the Loyalist "Brigadiers" will have to raise their extortion rates to make up for the loss of the EU " Community" funding ;)
What will happen to all them big Unionist farmers when the CAP cheques stop?
Meanwhile the quicker the Scots take their courage in their hands and go Independent the better.

Alex Salmond was already hinting that England voted to leave Europe, Scotland didn't and he's expecting another referendum there in the coming years.

If the Tory's screw Scotland any harder with their austerity then a break up of the union is inevitable and Norn Iron will be collateral damage to the Scotland/England split.

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« Reply #545 on: June 24, 2016, 11:29:08 AM »
SF can posture all they like on a border poll, and the is all it is posturing. The fact seems to be at the moment a sizeable section of the formerly nationalist community have accepted the union, the fleg and gongs from the Queen. This has been reinforced by SF rolling over at every turn to DUP demands.

As you say a sizable amount have accepted the British union and the trimmings it comes with because they believe they are better off financially within it, I don't think they've coem round to a British Identity though, the push on a Northern Irish Identity is probably helping it head that way though.

This is a fickle and self serving part of the population though, if the financial allure isn't with Britain then they aren't either

Between 1932 and 1972 a much greater part of the "nationalist community" had accepted the Union or at least unionist rule. That many are now also content with their lot is irrelevant. Swings and roundabouts, you always get another chance, just a matter of keeping the faith and being ready to capitalise on changed circumstances. SF should milk this for all it worth, you can be sure the SNP are going to do the same in Scotland and fair fcks to them.

The change this time might be that it will engage some of the more liberal in the Unionist Community to consider life in a United Ireland, especially when Boris and the boys run roughshod over the NHS or anything else publically owned or paid. To steal the ra quote about thatcher, Republicanism only need to win one referendum but unionism has to win them all.

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« Reply #546 on: June 24, 2016, 11:30:34 AM »
Some difference between how Nicola Sturgeon has reacted to the remain vote in Scotland and how Arlene Foster reacted to the remain vote in NI!

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« Reply #547 on: June 24, 2016, 11:42:34 AM »
Some difference between how Nicola Sturgeon has reacted to the remain vote in Scotland and how Arlene Foster reacted to the remain vote in NI!

They do have completely different agendas

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« Reply #548 on: June 24, 2016, 11:44:56 AM »
Feels like handing your notice in and then regretting it.

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« Reply #549 on: June 24, 2016, 11:48:59 AM »
SF can posture all they like on a border poll, and the is all it is posturing. The fact seems to be at the moment a sizeable section of the formerly nationalist community have accepted the union, the fleg and gongs from the Queen. This has been reinforced by SF rolling over at every turn to DUP demands.

As you say a sizable amount have accepted the British union and the trimmings it comes with because they believe they are better off financially within it, I don't think they've coem round to a British Identity though, the push on a Northern Irish Identity is probably helping it head that way though.

This is a fickle and self serving part of the population though, if the financial allure isn't with Britain then they aren't either

Between 1932 and 1972 a much greater part of the "nationalist community" had accepted the Union or at least unionist rule. That many are now also content with their lot is irrelevant. Swings and roundabouts, you always get another chance, just a matter of keeping the faith and being ready to capitalise on changed circumstances. SF should milk this for all it worth, you can be sure the SNP are going to do the same in Scotland and fair fcks to them.
SF couldn't milk a cow let alone a situation.

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« Reply #550 on: June 24, 2016, 11:49:57 AM »
Presumably the Loyalist "Brigadiers" will have to raise their extortion rates to make up for the loss of the EU " Community" funding ;)
What will happen to all them big Unionist farmers when the CAP cheques stop?
Meanwhile the quicker the Scots take their courage in their hands and go Independent the better.

Alex Salmond was already hinting that England voted to leave Europe, Scotland didn't and he's expecting another referendum there in the coming years.

If the Tory's screw Scotland any harder with their austerity then a break up of the union is inevitable and Norn Iron will be collateral damage to the Scotland/England split.

Would there be any mileage in thinking its Englands chance to ditch their demented expensive cousins and they will take it ?

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #551 on: June 24, 2016, 11:59:27 AM »

SF couldn't milk a cow let alone a situation.



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« Reply #552 on: June 24, 2016, 12:54:30 PM »
Have to say im not surprised the leave side have carried through, i said on this thread about a month ago the majority i met day to day were voting leave and yesterday was like a bank holiday with people trying to get of London to vote in their home constituencies all over England .  The remain side were way too complacent and Labour have a lot to answer for hiding Corbyn away and not putting some of their other leaders on the front line until it was way too late.

Corbyn gets hid away for a reason

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #553 on: June 24, 2016, 12:58:44 PM »
Presumably the Loyalist "Brigadiers" will have to raise their extortion rates to make up for the loss of the EU " Community" funding ;)
What will happen to all them big Unionist farmers when the CAP cheques stop?
Meanwhile the quicker the Scots take their courage in their hands and go Independent the better.

Alex Salmond was already hinting that England voted to leave Europe, Scotland didn't and he's expecting another referendum there in the coming years.

If the Tory's screw Scotland any harder with their austerity then a break up of the union is inevitable and Norn Iron will be collateral damage to the Scotland/England split.

Would there be any mileage in thinking its Englands chance to ditch their demented expensive cousins and they will take it ?
We could well be next on the blame list once they realise immigrants aren't to blame for the state of the Country.

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #554 on: June 24, 2016, 01:05:38 PM »
Looks like Corbyn will be gone soon as well!