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« Reply #270 on: June 21, 2016, 02:28:39 PM »
Beckham securing his knighthood

Thats just emabarrassing for whoever wheeled out the well known economist and intellectual that is Beckham..

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« Reply #271 on: June 21, 2016, 02:37:25 PM »
Beckham securing his knighthood

Thats just emabarrassing for whoever wheeled out the well known economist and intellectual that is Beckham..

It might just swing the red top readers who don't give a toss about what economists and intellectuals think..

Sad and all that it is, the cult of celebrity seems to carry votes in politics!

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« Reply #272 on: June 21, 2016, 02:46:47 PM »
How do north of Ireland posters feel about Dodds and Villiers supporting leave?
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« Reply #273 on: June 21, 2016, 03:22:58 PM »
Currently we have signed to a treaty who aim is 'EVER increasing  union' which is not just flowery language nut  states that its aim it to end up as a nation state. so if that is what's desired then vote yes. the hope is with an English withdrawal we have a redrawing  of our relationship with all other nation not just white european ones
Nationalism does no go away just because the nation gets bigger
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« Reply #274 on: June 21, 2016, 04:30:38 PM »
http://uk.businessinsider.com/wef-countries-with-highest-level-of-government-debt-vs-gdp-2015-10

Of the Top 17 countires with the highest level of gov debt how many do you think are in the EU?

What would be wrong with a free trade agreement in Europe only without striving for a United States of Europe?
Vote Leave

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« Reply #275 on: June 21, 2016, 04:40:15 PM »
Currently we have signed to a treaty who aim is 'EVER increasing  union' which is not just flowery language nut  states that its aim it to end up as a nation state. so if that is what's desired then vote yes. the hope is with an English withdrawal we have a redrawing  of our relationship with all other nation not just white european ones
Nationalism does no go away just because the nation gets bigger
ever increasing union is dead in the water. The Germans will not countenance fiscal union. They are afraid of inflation.  They end up with deflation.
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« Reply #276 on: June 21, 2016, 07:34:18 PM »
http://uk.businessinsider.com/wef-countries-with-highest-level-of-government-debt-vs-gdp-2015-10

Of the Top 17 countires with the highest level of gov debt how many do you think are in the EU?

What would be wrong with a free trade agreement in Europe only without striving for a United States of Europe?
Vote Leave
No quite brave enough to post under your primary account though? Not that convinced then.

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« Reply #277 on: June 21, 2016, 08:00:03 PM »
How do north of Ireland posters feel about Dodds and Villiers supporting leave?

Dodds supports a Brexit for the same reason as most DUPers.  He thinks it will lead to another (or several) degrees of separation between North and South.  I haven't heard one DUPer give any sort of argument as to why NI will be better off outside the EU. 

Villiers is a lightweight fuckwit who will be on her way if Remain prevails.
If DUP heads really think like that,  NI is fucked. Leave could cut UK GDP by 10%
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« Reply #278 on: June 21, 2016, 08:05:17 PM »
That's  the general idea; cut the NI economy,  especially in Taig border areas and replace European payments with London ones.  Then the subvention becomes so large that a UI is totally inconceivable.
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« Reply #279 on: June 21, 2016, 08:10:57 PM »
That's  the general idea; cut the NI economy,  especially in Taig border areas and replace European payments with London ones.  Then the subvention becomes so large that a UI is totally inconceivable.
English nationalism is going to destroy unionism.
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« Reply #280 on: June 21, 2016, 08:42:50 PM »
The big weakness of OWC is its continued dependence on English money to keep the lights on. People in London are entitled to ask why the money isn't spent in London.
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« Reply #281 on: June 21, 2016, 09:52:38 PM »
http://uk.businessinsider.com/wef-countries-with-highest-level-of-government-debt-vs-gdp-2015-10

Of the Top 17 countires with the highest level of gov debt how many do you think are in the EU?

What would be wrong with a free trade agreement in Europe only without striving for a United States of Europe?
Vote Leave
So they will be able to negotiate a better deal from outside without complying with EU directives?

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« Reply #282 on: June 21, 2016, 10:25:18 PM »
http://uk.businessinsider.com/wef-countries-with-highest-level-of-government-debt-vs-gdp-2015-10

Of the Top 17 countires with the highest level of gov debt how many do you think are in the EU?

What would be wrong with a free trade agreement in Europe only without striving for a United States of Europe?
Vote Leave
So they will be able to negotiate a better deal from outside without complying with EU directives?
Europe doesn't work like that . Switzerland had a referendum on inward migration and tried to play hardball with Brussels. It was told to PFO. It was kicked out of the Erasmus programme. 2 years later it is still trying to triangulate. Only 30% of voters woukd now support the referendum.
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« Reply #283 on: June 22, 2016, 08:34:41 AM »
How do north of Ireland posters feel about Dodds and Villiers supporting leave?

Dodds supports a Brexit for the same reason as most DUPers.  He thinks it will lead to another (or several) degrees of separation between North and South.  I haven't heard one DUPer give any sort of argument as to why NI will be better off outside the EU. 

Villiers is a lightweight fuckwit who will be on her way if Remain prevails.
If DUP heads really think like that,  NI is fucked. Leave could cut UK GDP by 10%
Of course they think like that, that's a huge part of our problem here.Its like banging your head against a wall.
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« Reply #284 on: June 22, 2016, 10:14:01 AM »
How do north of Ireland posters feel about Dodds and Villiers supporting leave?

Dodds supports a Brexit for the same reason as most DUPers.  He thinks it will lead to another (or several) degrees of separation between North and South.  I haven't heard one DUPer give any sort of argument as to why NI will be better off outside the EU. 

Villiers is a lightweight fuckwit who will be on her way if Remain prevails.
If DUP heads really think like that,  NI is fucked. Leave could cut UK GDP by 10%
Of course they think like that, that's a huge part of our problem here.Its like banging your head against a wall.

If the uk votes leave ni will not get the funding that it currently gets, i can't see it happening anyway, and will hit bad times.

I would see it pushing more nationalists wanting a ui so in my view it would weaken the union. Unionists are making a monumental c**k up pushing the leave agenda.

Despite all trade arguments etc i think they're a crock of shit and they just want border controls.