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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #9180 on: May 13, 2020, 09:47:19 PM »
UK Government finally concede what the EU have said from the start and what we all knew...

There will be infrastructure at the ports of entry to Northern Ireland and an effective border in the Irish Sea.

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #9181 on: May 13, 2020, 10:06:36 PM »
Presumably an extension to the Transition period next?
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« Reply #9182 on: May 13, 2020, 11:10:01 PM »
Presumably an extension to the Transition period next?

Has to be... Starmer has played it well in not calling for one he’s gone with the “well the government have said they’ll get a deal so I trust them to do that”... there is absolutely no way they were getting a deal in the next 2 months even before COVID19 let alone in the current situation so let them own it rather than Starmer call for an extension and have it turned on him as a remainer.

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #9183 on: May 13, 2020, 11:31:11 PM »
UK Government finally concede what the EU have said from the start and what we all knew...

There will be infrastructure at the ports of entry to Northern Ireland and an effective border in the Irish Sea.

Tà àr là tagtha!!

Some people might think it's not a big deal that the UK PM has been lying through his teeth for the last seven months about this, when a literal dog on the street could have told you he was lying.

It is. The creation of a fantasy world as alternative "reality", where lies become "truth" and truth means nothing is essential to how Johnson and the Tories in general run Britain.

Politics as entertainment has real consequences.

Where's that "pivot" some gullible eejits thought Johnson would make?

Even against the backdrop of Johnson throwing the people of the UK under a bus with his insane "herd immunity" nonsense and the biggest Covid disaster in Europe (bar maybe Russia), he is intent on going full steam ahead for a no deal Brexit, where the corrupt and the criminal will make out like bandits.





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« Reply #9184 on: May 14, 2020, 10:56:40 AM »
Johnson lies through his teeth on everything and you've got to wonder about the state of mind of those who follow him so blindly.

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« Reply #9185 on: May 14, 2020, 11:00:44 AM »
Johnson lies through his teeth on everything and you've got to wonder about the state of mind of those who follow him so blindly.

How many do that though? The Tory base turned on Theresa May within a few months. It's now doing likewise to Johnson.

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« Reply #9186 on: May 14, 2020, 11:05:42 AM »
Johnson lies through his teeth on everything and you've got to wonder about the state of mind of those who follow him so blindly.

How many do that though? The Tory base turned on Theresa May within a few months. It's now doing likewise to Johnson.

The Tory base of all the different classes it seems have taken to his snappy logo approach even if its meaningless and may very well discard him for another Tory charlatan like Gove in a heartbeat, but at the minute even with the Covid death tolls rising and the impending Brexit shambles he's still being talked about being the great white hero.

Interesting that the Telegraph and part of the FT have recently published less than flattering articles about him.

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« Reply #9187 on: May 14, 2020, 11:11:12 AM »
Johnson lies through his teeth on everything and you've got to wonder about the state of mind of those who follow him so blindly.

How many do that though? The Tory base turned on Theresa May within a few months. It's now doing likewise to Johnson.

The Tory base of all the different classes it seems have taken to his snappy logo approach even if its meaningless and may very well discard him for another Tory charlatan like Gove in a heartbeat, but at the minute even with the Covid death tolls rising and the impending Brexit shambles he's still being talked about being the great white hero.

Interesting that the Telegraph and part of the FT have recently published less than flattering articles about him.

The FT isn't Tory but the Telegraph has been tearing him and his lockdown to shreds for weeks now.

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #9188 on: June 02, 2020, 04:34:31 PM »

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« Reply #9189 on: July 05, 2020, 11:29:49 AM »
Are we looking at a no-deal come January given the deadline for extending the transition period lapsed with no agreement? Or will they extend anyway?
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« Reply #9190 on: July 05, 2020, 12:42:40 PM »
I think they’ll do a deal Farrandeelin. The Brexiteers want out, no more delays, so 1 January isn’t on the table.  There may be some phased introductions of new controls, Gove has already announced some, but 1 January will still be the headline day of glory.  The sticking point is the EU a want level playing field on rules so they aren’t at a disadvantage, the UK want full sovereignty.  That is genuinely difficult to square, but it can be done.  No Deal would mean tariffs all round which is bad for consumers.  I genuinely think the Brexiteer strategy includes cheap food and consumer imports, driving down the cost of living and keeping the masses happy.  Deal therefore is miles better than No Deal.  We’ll just have to listen to the bluster in the meantime.

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« Reply #9191 on: July 22, 2020, 06:52:33 PM »
I guess this is what Unionists wanted all along:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-53498374

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #9193 on: September 07, 2020, 08:07:57 AM »
#SeniorHurling

https://www.ft.com/content/9906e0d4-0c29-4f5f-9cb0-130c75a2f7a7

The UK is planning new legislation that will override key parts of the Brexit withdrawal agreement, risking the collapse of trade negotiations with Brussels.  Sections of the internal market bill — due to be published this Wednesday — are expected to “eliminate the legal force of parts of the withdrawal agreement” in areas including state aid and Northern Ireland customs, according to three people familiar with the plans.  The move would “clearly and consciously” undermine the agreement on Northern Ireland that Boris Johnson signed last October to avoid a return to a hard border in the region, one person with knowledge of the plans said.
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« Reply #9194 on: September 07, 2020, 09:01:31 AM »
#SeniorHurling

https://www.ft.com/content/9906e0d4-0c29-4f5f-9cb0-130c75a2f7a7

The UK is planning new legislation that will override key parts of the Brexit withdrawal agreement, risking the collapse of trade negotiations with Brussels.  Sections of the internal market bill — due to be published this Wednesday — are expected to “eliminate the legal force of parts of the withdrawal agreement” in areas including state aid and Northern Ireland customs, according to three people familiar with the plans.  The move would “clearly and consciously” undermine the agreement on Northern Ireland that Boris Johnson signed last October to avoid a return to a hard border in the region, one person with knowledge of the plans said.

Also a breach of the GFA is it not?
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