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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #9165 on: March 01, 2020, 04:09:17 PM »
These pricks could still put a hard border up. I wouldn’t put it past them.

Of course they will. Once they have left they can do what they want with their borders.

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« Reply #9166 on: March 03, 2020, 11:47:40 AM »
These pricks could still put a hard border up. I wouldn’t put it past them.

Of course they will. Once they have left they can do what they want with their borders.

They can, but they would have to repudiate the withdrawal agreement to do that.
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« Reply #9167 on: March 03, 2020, 12:32:37 PM »
There is a lot of thunder and lightning from Johnson but it's always
about something he has signed up the UK to. The Euros are expecting a theatrical exit from the talks in June followed by a theatrical deal in September.
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« Reply #9168 on: March 03, 2020, 09:06:21 PM »
https://twitter.com/cirian75/status/1234424692896882688

Health Secretary Matt Hancock has been stopped by No. 10 from going to a European meeting to coordinate Coronovirus response.

Just let that sink in

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 has stopped the Health Secretary going to a European meeting to coordinate Coronovirus response.
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« Reply #9169 on: March 03, 2020, 10:37:08 PM »
https://twitter.com/cirian75/status/1234424692896882688

Health Secretary Matt Hancock has been stopped by No. 10 from going to a European meeting to coordinate Coronovirus response.

Just let that sink in

@BorisJohnson
 has stopped the Health Secretary going to a European meeting to coordinate Coronovirus response.

Didn't Hancock say 500,000 Brits would die from the virus. He must have Boris scared.

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #9170 on: March 03, 2020, 11:19:58 PM »
These pricks could still put a hard border up. I wouldn’t put it past them.

Of course they will. Once they have left they can do what they want with their borders.

They can, but they would have to repudiate the withdrawal agreement to do that.

And the consequences would be?
I would be surprised if some kind of hard border is not put in place.

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« Reply #9171 on: March 04, 2020, 12:19:10 AM »
These pricks could still put a hard border up. I wouldn’t put it past them.

Of course they will. Once they have left they can do what they want with their borders.

They can, but they would have to repudiate the withdrawal agreement to do that.

And the consequences would be?
I would be surprised if some kind of hard border is not put in place.

Repudiating any international agreement is not a good plan and they'll need some sort of relationship with the EU. If they screw up NI then the US Congress, the Canadians, Australians and whoever else the EU can persuade will be unwilling to make deals either.

The British may have tried to  get the border in on the sly, but having publicly made an agreement that a hard border is damaging for peace then they have very bad public relations from doing so. Of course you then have calls for a border poll here, but the Scots also can point to London having acted in bad faith. 
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« Reply #9172 on: March 04, 2020, 11:48:49 AM »

   https://www.ft.com/content/b1c7f0b6-5c6e-11ea-8033-fa40a0d65a98

   "The British will insist on their right to diverge from EU law but will assure the Europeans that, in practice, they will retain social and environmental standards that are at least as stringent as those of the EU.

This is rather like a child insisting that it will determine its own bedtime but indicating that, in practice, it will go to bed at 8pm as normal."
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« Reply #9173 on: March 04, 2020, 11:52:18 AM »

   https://www.ft.com/content/b1c7f0b6-5c6e-11ea-8033-fa40a0d65a98

   "The British will insist on their right to diverge from EU law but will assure the Europeans that, in practice, they will retain social and environmental standards that are at least as stringent as those of the EU.

This is rather like a child insisting that it will determine its own bedtime but indicating that, in practice, it will go to bed at 8pm as normal."

No, its more like determining its own bedtime but promising to go to bed at least as early as the adults.

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« Reply #9174 on: March 04, 2020, 07:50:24 PM »
The political economy of Brexit collapsed with the news that a trade deal with the US would add just 0.16% to GDP after 15 years. All Johnson can do now is act as though he has power . https://ft.com/content/3aef20b0-5c8f-11ea-8033-fa40a0d65a98


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« Reply #9175 on: April 08, 2020, 03:47:20 PM »
All not rosey in the EU garden.

BBC News - Coronavirus: Marathon talks over EU virus rescue package stall
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52211650

This article aside, an Italian exit from the EU has to be an increasingly real possibility.

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« Reply #9176 on: April 08, 2020, 04:32:30 PM »
All not rosey in the EU garden.

BBC News - Coronavirus: Marathon talks over EU virus rescue package stall
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52211650

This article aside, an Italian exit from the EU has to be an increasingly real possibility.

I think they are seriously f**ked off with the Dutch and Germans right now.
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« Reply #9177 on: April 08, 2020, 04:36:57 PM »
How will the rest of the world be sorted out?
Surely the IMF and the like must be able to come up with some "New Deal" to assist Countries who have had to splash out money they haven't got to fight the Virus.
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« Reply #9178 on: May 13, 2020, 04:37:55 PM »
I've noticed this slant from the Torygraph increasingly over the past week or two. Things must be really bad when it starts questioning / doubting No. 10. A severe case of 'buyers regret' setting in at last I'd say;

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/05/13/keir-starmer-took-boris-johnson-apart-like-duplo-train-set/


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« Reply #9179 on: May 13, 2020, 09:08:08 PM »
Bojo looks like a lost child without a baying mob of idiots behind him in the Commons. The quiet settings of a socially distanced Commons suits Starmer's forensic legal mind and approach Vs Patriotic / Brexit bluster.