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playwiththewind1st

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #8340 on: September 19, 2019, 07:05:08 PM »
Were 'planning applications' the second item on the agenda? Closely followed by 'boilers'?

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« Reply #8341 on: September 19, 2019, 07:10:26 PM »
He expected to be selling his milk into these new markets like China, India and the Middle East with the price per litre rocketing up like the DUP/UFU told him.

The UFU told him?

News to me.


Note the date on the below - 2016-02-25
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-politics-35660084

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"No compelling argument" has been made that Northern Ireland's agriculture industry would be better off if the UK left the European Union, the Ulster Farmers' Union (UFU) has said.

Farmers in Northern Ireland receive more than 230m a year in subsidies from the EU, which the UFU says is "vital" for farm incomes.

A referendum on whether the UK should stay in the EU will be held on 23 June.

Well a local farmer told me he went along to a UFU organised event pre referendum and the main speaker was a Mr Poots from Lisburn, a farmer allegedly in his spare time and he espoused the benefits of leaving the EU as an opportunity for NI farmers to have unfettered access into new markets in India and China where they'd get double the current price for milk and 5 a kilo for beef and so forth.

They've obviously changed their stance since it'd become apparent that Boris and the ERG want no deal and not this easy deal that Liam Fox was talking about back then.

TBF there is every chance you could see that price for farming products or even in excess of it with a no deal.

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« Reply #8342 on: September 19, 2019, 09:42:39 PM »
He expected to be selling his milk into these new markets like China, India and the Middle East with the price per litre rocketing up like the DUP/UFU told him.

The UFU told him?

News to me.


Note the date on the below - 2016-02-25
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-politics-35660084

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"No compelling argument" has been made that Northern Ireland's agriculture industry would be better off if the UK left the European Union, the Ulster Farmers' Union (UFU) has said.

Farmers in Northern Ireland receive more than 230m a year in subsidies from the EU, which the UFU says is "vital" for farm incomes.

A referendum on whether the UK should stay in the EU will be held on 23 June.

Well a local farmer told me he went along to a UFU organised event pre referendum and the main speaker was a Mr Poots from Lisburn, a farmer allegedly in his spare time and he espoused the benefits of leaving the EU as an opportunity for NI farmers to have unfettered access into new markets in India and China where they'd get double the current price for milk and 5 a kilo for beef and so forth.

They've obviously changed their stance since it'd become apparent that Boris and the ERG want no deal and not this easy deal that Liam Fox was talking about back then.

TBF there is every chance you could see that price for farming products or even in excess of it with a no deal.

Yes but inputs could be double or even triple as well.

omaghjoe

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« Reply #8343 on: September 19, 2019, 10:25:42 PM »
He expected to be selling his milk into these new markets like China, India and the Middle East with the price per litre rocketing up like the DUP/UFU told him.

The UFU told him?

News to me.


Note the date on the below - 2016-02-25
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-politics-35660084

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"No compelling argument" has been made that Northern Ireland's agriculture industry would be better off if the UK left the European Union, the Ulster Farmers' Union (UFU) has said.

Farmers in Northern Ireland receive more than 230m a year in subsidies from the EU, which the UFU says is "vital" for farm incomes.

A referendum on whether the UK should stay in the EU will be held on 23 June.

Well a local farmer told me he went along to a UFU organised event pre referendum and the main speaker was a Mr Poots from Lisburn, a farmer allegedly in his spare time and he espoused the benefits of leaving the EU as an opportunity for NI farmers to have unfettered access into new markets in India and China where they'd get double the current price for milk and 5 a kilo for beef and so forth.

They've obviously changed their stance since it'd become apparent that Boris and the ERG want no deal and not this easy deal that Liam Fox was talking about back then.

TBF there is every chance you could see that price for farming products or even in excess of it with a no deal.

Yes but inputs could be double or even triple as well.

 ;)
I was more thinking the value of sterling but 2 sides of the same coin I suppose

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« Reply #8344 on: September 19, 2019, 10:55:03 PM »
Well a local farmer told me he went along to a UFU organised event pre referendum and the main speaker was a Mr Poots from Lisburn, a farmer allegedly in his spare time and he espoused the benefits of leaving the EU as an opportunity for NI farmers to have unfettered access into new markets in India and China where they'd get double the current price for milk and 5 a kilo for beef and so forth.

They've obviously changed their stance since it'd become apparent that Boris and the ERG want no deal and not this easy deal that Liam Fox was talking about back then.

You sure it wasn't a DUP organised event with Corrupt Poots or Corrupt Og Poots?

Hell no, this lad would not have went if it was organised by the DUP and knowing what was to transpire and who was to do all the talking.

The UFU organised it.

The DUP infiltrated local branches of the UFU. Of course, Ireland already ships a lot of milk in the form of baby formula to China, the EU doesn' t prevent you from doing that. India is not a notable market for beef, I would have thought.

Anyhow this guy seems to think the DUP were bullshitting
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-49742567
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« Reply #8345 on: September 20, 2019, 12:13:17 PM »
With the soundings coming out of the DUP and Corbyns poor use of words where he was actually for the backstop but said something contrary it looks like Boris may dust down May's original deal with a NI only backstop and try to get it through Parliament and he may succeed.

EU aren't going to buy the "Stormont lock" so Nige, Sam and Arlene need to have a bogeyman to blame when this is imposed on them (along with SSM and the Abortion laws) and Boris will do come the time.

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« Reply #8346 on: September 20, 2019, 01:22:50 PM »
It's all very uncertain


May's deal was based on No Single Market and No Customs Union so it's quite extremist
If an amended version became the deal it might generate a lot of opposition.
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« Reply #8347 on: September 20, 2019, 04:59:53 PM »
Werid statement from Corbyn yesterday, didnt he say the reason he was opposed to the deal was because of May's redlines and that he wanted to be in the single market?

Seems like after performing solidly for a couple of weeks they decided to let the leash off..... and he just started rambling, the problem is he doesnt know where he is or was on Brexit at any point in time.

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« Reply #8348 on: September 20, 2019, 10:19:39 PM »
Frank Tibo whistleblower to the bigest scam ever,  the Euro 60bn "cum-ex" scam spawned in the city of London financial district, against 5 eu countries (31.8 bn Germany,  17bn France, 4.5bn  Italy, 1.7bn Denmark and 201m  Belgium),

said in an interview that he welcomes Brexit

There is less control over the UK financial sector than with the US financial sector, the City of London has evolved into the Wild West

- It is my impression that London investment banks are, in effect, scamming the rest of Europe, and in many ways it will be a relief for European states to have a smaller and weaker City of London. A more decentralized financial sector with better government control, he says.


https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/sep/20/the-men-who-plundered-europe-city-of-london-practices-on-trial-in-bonn
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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #8349 on: September 22, 2019, 04:02:22 PM »
Just watched the Andrew Marr show - why the fcuk would anyone vote for labour - Corbyn's interviews are car crash telly.

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« Reply #8350 on: September 22, 2019, 06:46:36 PM »
Corbyn is a dud. Might be a decent fella with some good ideas, but he has the charisma of a toilet brush. And is about as coherent as one. His obstinance will deliver Boris a majority and whatever Brexit he wants. The 'Corbynistas' could stop all this, but are too zealous and thick to do anything.

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« Reply #8351 on: September 22, 2019, 09:24:02 PM »
Corbyn is a dud. Might be a decent fella with some good ideas, but he has the charisma of a toilet brush. And is about as coherent as one. His obstinance will deliver Boris a majority and whatever Brexit he wants. The 'Corbynistas' could stop all this, but are too zealous and thick to do anything.

Nail on the head. Corbyn can't decide his own position on Brexit and is splitting the party. They need to ditch him pronto.
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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #8352 on: September 22, 2019, 09:31:37 PM »
Corbyn is a dud. Might be a decent fella with some good ideas, but he has the charisma of a toilet brush. And is about as coherent as one. His obstinance will deliver Boris a majority and whatever Brexit he wants. The 'Corbynistas' could stop all this, but are too zealous and thick to do anything.

Nail on the head. Corbyn can't decide his own position on Brexit and is splitting the party. They need to ditch him pronto.

They won't, evey p***k thinks they are correct, compromise is dead.

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #8353 on: September 24, 2019, 10:49:12 AM »
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Boris Johnson's decision to suspend Parliament was unlawful, the Supreme Court has ruled.

Mr Johnson suspended - or prorogued - Parliament for five weeks earlier this month, saying it was to allow a Queen's Speech to outline his new policies.

But the UK's highest court said it was wrong to stop Parliament carrying out its duties.

The court's president, Lady Hale, said: "The effect on the fundamentals of our democracy was extreme."

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« Reply #8354 on: September 24, 2019, 10:52:02 AM »
Johnson should resign but won't but this ruling has to be massively damaging