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armaghniac

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #4425 on: September 17, 2018, 11:09:49 AM »
It is a very badly written article, which manages to give the impression that the EU has agreed to cross border checks when in fact they proposed operational mechanisms to make the Irish Sea thing work.

They use the example of  the Canary Islands

“The EU wants a transit procedure or process,” the note said. “Controls could happen at the companies [involved at either end of the transaction] and they would just scan a label on board ships [en route from Britain to Northern Ireland or the Irish Republic].” EU officials have noted that “controls like that exist for example between Spain and the Canary Islands” without any Spanish debate over an internal border in a country that is sensitive to separatism.
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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #4426 on: September 17, 2018, 02:13:53 PM »
Isn't this just dumbing down the language around an Irish sea border? Open border on Ireland but customs officials doing their checks in British ports (British customs) before they reach Ireland. Will the DUP accept this?

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #4427 on: September 17, 2018, 02:48:00 PM »
Isn't this just dumbing down the language around an Irish sea border? Open border on Ireland but customs officials doing their checks in British ports (British customs) before they reach Ireland. Will the DUP accept this?

Of course, they'll call them regulatory control officials, not customs men.
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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #4428 on: September 20, 2018, 09:01:06 PM »
Rees Mogg and co want no deal. They want chaos. May doesn’t have a majority without them. She can’t even deliver on the border. The chances of no deal must be very high now.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/20/may-in-fight-to-save-chequers-brexit-plan-after-salzburg-ambush
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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #4429 on: September 21, 2018, 12:15:49 AM »
The too and froing on this lately must all be gestering. A deal must be close at this point.

But the key questions are...
Does May need a deal before the Tory party conference? Or does un unconfirmed deal actually help her?
Is she likely to survive it without (or with) one?
What does Boris have planned there?

Will she get said deal through Parliament?
Brexit group will rebel, will the Remainers also?
Will Labour back her deal? Will they force her to a referendum on the deal?


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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #4430 on: September 21, 2018, 05:35:05 AM »
Why is it that most British pro Brexit politicians seem to think that 1 vs 27 is going to be a fair fight?

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #4431 on: September 21, 2018, 08:11:17 AM »
The too and froing on this lately must all be gestering. A deal must be close at this point.

But the key questions are...
Does May need a deal before the Tory party conference? Or does un unconfirmed deal actually help her?
Is she likely to survive it without (or with) one?
What does Boris have planned there?

Will she get said deal through Parliament?
Brexit group will rebel, will the Remainers also?
Will Labour back her deal? Will they force her to a referendum on the deal?
Maybe it’s all done and dusted in the background but people thought the same in 1914 before WW1
There is so much division now
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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #4432 on: September 21, 2018, 08:30:46 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs/the_papers

Macron pulls no punches in Telegraph.
May has demonstrated that she has a hide thicker than a rhino.
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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #4433 on: September 21, 2018, 09:13:59 AM »

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #4434 on: September 21, 2018, 09:40:26 AM »
The UK is in pretty bad shape

https://youtu.be/9HRg4cv9cww

The answer is a new economic system that puts people first. Brexit is taking the piss.
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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #4436 on: September 21, 2018, 11:17:59 AM »
That will frighten the 440,000,000 EU people into believing the DUPUDA fantasy that "Northern Ireland is the same as the rest of the United Kingdom" - except of course for same sex marriage,  abortion, bi lingual road signs and being subject to an International Treaty that says it can vote to join another State. Not to mention all its natives having the right to citizenship and passports of another State.
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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #4437 on: September 21, 2018, 11:39:14 AM »
That will frighten the 440,000,000 EU people into believing the DUPUDA fantasy that "Northern Ireland is the same as the rest of the United Kingdom" - except of course for same sex marriage,  abortion, bi lingual road signs and being subject to an International Treaty that says it can vote to join another State. Not to mention all its natives having the right to citizenship and passports of another State.
The Irish diplomats played a blinder to get the EU behind the border issue.
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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #4439 on: September 21, 2018, 12:54:56 PM »
Some of the narrow minded views on the border expressed on Talkback just make me go WTF! Whats wrong with a hard border sure we've tolls to pay... :'(
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