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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #4140 on: July 09, 2018, 03:09:59 PM »
God forbid he'd have to shoulder this mess on his own. When he didn't see himself as PM material it showed him for the coward he is.

Are we set for a Tory implosion?
Wonder what the chances are of a general election coming out of all this.


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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #4141 on: July 09, 2018, 03:10:42 PM »
Who is next? Rees Mogg?

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« Reply #4142 on: July 09, 2018, 03:13:05 PM »
They've only quit their posts as ministers not quit the Tories, Mogg may not be a minister.

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #4143 on: July 09, 2018, 03:13:24 PM »
Is Brexit as we know it finished???

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« Reply #4144 on: July 09, 2018, 03:13:30 PM »
Who is next? Rees Mogg?

Surely the spivs will align under one master spiv and kick off a leadership battle.

In the meantime big business are making contingency plans to get out of Dodge.

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« Reply #4145 on: July 09, 2018, 03:15:52 PM »
Is Brexit as we know it finished???

Yes. I can't see any sort of hard Brexit to be honest.
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« Reply #4146 on: July 09, 2018, 03:16:22 PM »
leadership challenge must be afoot.

The 1922 committee session with May will be interesting.

Vote of no confidence also a likely occurrence, could very well be a general election before year's end
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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #4147 on: July 09, 2018, 03:18:24 PM »
Bojo gone!

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« Reply #4148 on: July 09, 2018, 03:20:03 PM »
Who is next? Rees Mogg?

He's not a cabinet minister. Boris is Foreign Secretary and has resigned that role. The cabinet requires collective responsibility. They all must support the government or else resign their cabinet posts.
While Davies and Boris are high profile ministers the reality is they will be replaced and the government will move along. The Brexit Tories only hope is to remove May. Whether they have the numbers for a leadership challenge remains to be seen. Furthermore have they really got the time? What Boris and Davies have done is walked away, so they can hold their hands up and say the resulting 'soft Brexit' is nothing to do with us. They know the 'hard Brexit' isn't deliverable, so they are saving their careers.

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« Reply #4149 on: July 09, 2018, 03:38:25 PM »
Who is next? Rees Mogg?

He's not a cabinet minister. Boris is Foreign Secretary and has resigned that role. The cabinet requires collective responsibility. They all must support the government or else resign their cabinet posts.
While Davies and Boris are high profile ministers the reality is they will be replaced and the government will move along. The Brexit Tories only hope is to remove May. Whether they have the numbers for a leadership challenge remains to be seen. Furthermore have they really got the time? What Boris and Davies have done is walked away, so they can hold their hands up and say the resulting 'soft Brexit' is nothing to do with us. They know the 'hard Brexit' isn't deliverable, so they are saving their careers.
They have neither the guts, the numbers, nor the time.

They're blowhard chicken shits.

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« Reply #4150 on: July 09, 2018, 03:44:39 PM »
BREAKING More Conservative Cabinet ministers will resign unless Theresa May drops her Chequers plan, senior Eurosceptic sources have told The Telegraph.
One source said: "This is defenestration by Cabinet. If you push on with Chequers you are going to lose you leadership."

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« Reply #4151 on: July 09, 2018, 03:48:20 PM »
Johnson is a spoofer and an opportunist. He changed sides in 2016 when he felt the vote was going to be lost. he never planned anything to deliver a coherent Brexit. The Brexit project has run out of road. What a waste of 2 years.
 
Today the Daily Telegraph (which is Der Stuermer of Brexit) says "the Brexiteers need to consider whether Mrs May's approach will at least deliver Brexit, albeit a pale imitation of what was once possible".
« Last Edit: July 09, 2018, 04:10:02 PM by seafoid »
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« Reply #4152 on: July 09, 2018, 04:08:33 PM »
Comedic and all as this is it's depressing as well and a General Election solves nothing unfortunately, it'll return something similar to what already is in place. Brexit, however badly mishandled, will happen and this makes a hard Brexit more likely imo.

The UK is so entrenched in their positions a reversal of the Brexit decision is extremely unlikely but the atmosphere will remain poisonous for years to come.

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« Reply #4153 on: July 09, 2018, 04:11:59 PM »
Comedic and all as this is it's depressing as well and a General Election solves nothing unfortunately, it'll return something similar to what already is in place. Brexit, however badly mishandled, will happen and this makes a hard Brexit more likely imo.

The UK is so entrenched in their positions a reversal of the Brexit decision is extremely unlikely but the atmosphere will remain poisonous for years to come.
The Eurosceptics have their Aughrim. They can't get what they want.
General elections and leadership challenges won't purge the poison either. This is a system issue. It is not something that can be fudged.
The Eurosceptic creed should be put down. At the end of the day it has nothing to offer the people of the UK.
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« Reply #4154 on: July 09, 2018, 04:26:04 PM »
I fear a more strict Brexit with a military backed border. Move over Crossmaglen Rangers. Your country needs you.
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