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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #615 on: September 01, 2017, 07:38:45 AM »
Exactly.  A lot of our great underage prospects seem to peter out, rather than drive on.

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #616 on: September 01, 2017, 09:15:46 AM »
The TF/SW are in memory of Waterford men, so it would probably be hard to get those. Similarly the Arrabawn was the Nenagh Co-op so again I can't imagine that will move.

No reason Laois couldn't find a weekend to run an U14 & u16. Or u13/15 next year.
Enough clubs around within a few minutes drive of Portlaoise to run both the same weekend and have both finals as a double header in OMP on the Sunday.

Highly unlikely you would get the same calibre of teams if you were to run a second u14/16 competition,the Forristal and Arrabawn are seen as the all ireland championships at this level,No harm in the CB breaking the habit of a lifetime and asking to host one of those competitions,ye never know what might happen.

Theres a gap in the market for an all ireland u15 competition as its currently a provincial competition.

You are not going to take over from these tournaments.
But there is no reason Laois couldn't start a tournament and build it up into the second most important weekend!
A one off hosting of either of the them isn't what I'd be aiming for.
Should we not spend our money better than hosting these tournaments?

go on then Don,enlighten us

what would an u15  championship over 1 day cost to run?.

Considering theres this crazy new business concept called Sponsorship knocking around,you might have heard of it.

It wouldn't do underage hurling in the county any harm,I'm sure if it was on,in OMP,Laois hurling people,mentors and juvenile players would head in to look at it and maybe take a good bit away from it also.

If we have local businesses wishing to invest in Laois hurling, it would be better to put it into the Development squads as opposed to spending it on hosting a tournaments when good ones already exist.

And shove your saracasm up your hoop.

What deficiencies exists then with regard to the current Laois development squad setup?

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #617 on: September 01, 2017, 04:14:39 PM »
The TF/SW are in memory of Waterford men, so it would probably be hard to get those. Similarly the Arrabawn was the Nenagh Co-op so again I can't imagine that will move.

No reason Laois couldn't find a weekend to run an U14 & u16. Or u13/15 next year.
Enough clubs around within a few minutes drive of Portlaoise to run both the same weekend and have both finals as a double header in OMP on the Sunday.

Highly unlikely you would get the same calibre of teams if you were to run a second u14/16 competition,the Forristal and Arrabawn are seen as the all ireland championships at this level,No harm in the CB breaking the habit of a lifetime and asking to host one of those competitions,ye never know what might happen.

Theres a gap in the market for an all ireland u15 competition as its currently a provincial competition.

You are not going to take over from these tournaments.
But there is no reason Laois couldn't start a tournament and build it up into the second most important weekend!
A one off hosting of either of the them isn't what I'd be aiming for.
Should we not spend our money better than hosting these tournaments?

go on then Don,enlighten us

what would an u15  championship over 1 day cost to run?.

Considering theres this crazy new business concept called Sponsorship knocking around,you might have heard of it.

It wouldn't do underage hurling in the county any harm,I'm sure if it was on,in OMP,Laois hurling people,mentors and juvenile players would head in to look at it and maybe take a good bit away from it also.

If we have local businesses wishing to invest in Laois hurling, it would be better to put it into the Development squads as opposed to spending it on hosting a tournaments when good ones already exist.

And shove your saracasm up your hoop.

What deficiencies exists then with regard to the current Laois development squad setup?
You believe the Laois Development Squads are currently properly funded? They want for nothing?

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #618 on: September 01, 2017, 07:47:33 PM »
The TF/SW are in memory of Waterford men, so it would probably be hard to get those. Similarly the Arrabawn was the Nenagh Co-op so again I can't imagine that will move.

No reason Laois couldn't find a weekend to run an U14 & u16. Or u13/15 next year.
Enough clubs around within a few minutes drive of Portlaoise to run both the same weekend and have both finals as a double header in OMP on the Sunday.

Highly unlikely you would get the same calibre of teams if you were to run a second u14/16 competition,the Forristal and Arrabawn are seen as the all ireland championships at this level,No harm in the CB breaking the habit of a lifetime and asking to host one of those competitions,ye never know what might happen.

Theres a gap in the market for an all ireland u15 competition as its currently a provincial competition.

You are not going to take over from these tournaments.
But there is no reason Laois couldn't start a tournament and build it up into the second most important weekend!
A one off hosting of either of the them isn't what I'd be aiming for.
Should we not spend our money better than hosting these tournaments?

go on then Don,enlighten us

what would an u15  championship over 1 day cost to run?.

Considering theres this crazy new business concept called Sponsorship knocking around,you might have heard of it.

It wouldn't do underage hurling in the county any harm,I'm sure if it was on,in OMP,Laois hurling people,mentors and juvenile players would head in to look at it and maybe take a good bit away from it also.

If we have local businesses wishing to invest in Laois hurling, it would be better to put it into the Development squads as opposed to spending it on hosting a tournaments when good ones already exist.

And shove your saracasm up your hoop.

What deficiencies exists then with regard to the current Laois development squad setup?
You believe the Laois Development Squads are currently properly funded? They want for nothing?

you obviously dont,so where are the deficiencies in the current development squads at u14,u15,u16,how would you address it and what would it cost?

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #619 on: September 01, 2017, 07:53:31 PM »
The TF/SW are in memory of Waterford men, so it would probably be hard to get those. Similarly the Arrabawn was the Nenagh Co-op so again I can't imagine that will move.

No reason Laois couldn't find a weekend to run an U14 & u16. Or u13/15 next year.
Enough clubs around within a few minutes drive of Portlaoise to run both the same weekend and have both finals as a double header in OMP on the Sunday.

Highly unlikely you would get the same calibre of teams if you were to run a second u14/16 competition,the Forristal and Arrabawn are seen as the all ireland championships at this level,No harm in the CB breaking the habit of a lifetime and asking to host one of those competitions,ye never know what might happen.

Theres a gap in the market for an all ireland u15 competition as its currently a provincial competition.

You are not going to take over from these tournaments.
But there is no reason Laois couldn't start a tournament and build it up into the second most important weekend!
A one off hosting of either of the them isn't what I'd be aiming for.
Should we not spend our money better than hosting these tournaments?

go on then Don,enlighten us

what would an u15  championship over 1 day cost to run?.

Considering theres this crazy new business concept called Sponsorship knocking around,you might have heard of it.

It wouldn't do underage hurling in the county any harm,I'm sure if it was on,in OMP,Laois hurling people,mentors and juvenile players would head in to look at it and maybe take a good bit away from it also.

If we have local businesses wishing to invest in Laois hurling, it would be better to put it into the Development squads as opposed to spending it on hosting a tournaments when good ones already exist.

And shove your saracasm up your hoop.

What deficiencies exists then with regard to the current Laois development squad setup?
You believe the Laois Development Squads are currently properly funded? They want for nothing?
You

you obviously dont,so where are the deficiencies in the current development squads at u14,u15,u16,how would you address it and what would it cost?
You're making a straw man here for yourself, very poor form. You're the one wishing to hit up sponsors to host a tournament we don't need nor does anyone else. I maintain these sponsors, of which we have few enough are either already contributing, or if not could have their money better put to use than for your vanity project. Cheddar and Zoom would vomit at such a suggestion. Cheddar paid for an entire underage panel to go away for a bonding weekend, not to mention what he did with the senior panels week away. But go on, build your straw man, it'll be a blast.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2017, 07:55:19 PM by Don Draper »

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #620 on: September 01, 2017, 09:26:56 PM »
Don "deflect" Draper

You were asked a simple enough question and couldn't up with one original contribution of your own.

Everyone in Laois Hurling circles is well aware of the hefty financial contribution Seamus Plunkett made and makes towards the promotion of hurling in this county,as for making them vomit,I had a good chat with Pat in relation to this very topic in the past few days and as always anything to drive the game here would'nt be discounted.

Everyone here has you down as a mouthpiece with the odd smartarse comment,but little of substance to offer.

Keep proving us right
« Last Edit: September 01, 2017, 09:30:56 PM by clonadmad »

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #621 on: September 02, 2017, 01:30:10 PM »
Replying to your own reply, I'd say your hands were twitching as the sweat dropped from your brow as you wrote that. Quite coincidental that you were speaking to Pat, what a helpful development that was for your internet argument. Another straw man built and knocked down.

It's great to hear all our squads are well funded and need for nothing, I was speaking to 3 coaches* involved with our underage squads this morning  who guffawed loudly at that.

*internet straw man 101.

Let me know how you get on with that tournament anyway, I'd say it'll be the silver bullet to all our problems.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2017, 01:31:58 PM by Don Draper »

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #622 on: September 08, 2017, 10:32:40 PM »
Great to see Mountrath winning a hurling title. It might be an U12 b final but it has to start somewhere. Hopefully it continues.
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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #623 on: September 30, 2017, 04:49:35 PM »
Winners are not those who never fail, but those who never quit!

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #624 on: October 03, 2017, 07:26:18 PM »
Good to see Clonaslee still keeping us entertained

Them pulling a fast one by playing Cian Conroy and he one of the standout performers at u14,comes back to bite them in the arse

http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/10/03/clonaslee-st-manmans-claim-u-17-b-hurling-success-extra-time/

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #625 on: October 04, 2017, 11:50:03 AM »
Next years Tony Forristal squad coming together

95 attended trials

60 selected,playing Leinster League games in Kilcormac and Carlow this weekend.

Training weekly in the COE.

breakdown by clubs and players

Abbeyleix 7
Ballinakill 6
B/K 1
Camross 5
Castletown/Slieve Bloom 4
C/B 4
Mountrath 1
Na Fianna 1
Park 4
Portlaoise 5
R/E 5
RPG 5
Rosenallis 4
The Harps 10


14 Clubs represented



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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #626 on: October 04, 2017, 02:41:40 PM »
Great to hear that and good spread of clubs alright.
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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #627 on: October 04, 2017, 03:05:46 PM »
Surprising return from BK?
Astonishing from The Harps.

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #628 on: October 04, 2017, 03:08:36 PM »
Only Clubs at u14 that dont have representatives on it are Clonaslee and Margey.

Results from the U13 development league might bear out why 10 lads from the harps are on it.

They have a strong bunch at that age and in young Dooley the best hurler in Laois at u13 at the minute
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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #629 on: October 05, 2017, 10:57:26 AM »
What would be great to see is Laois making some ground at U21 level. We've had decent enough minors over the past 4 or 5 years but  they have made no impression whatsoever at the higher grade. I understand it's not the be all but it's very important for step up to senior.

The younger grades like the U13's etc can be argued as being more important for the county but in saying that u6's right up are all important if we are going to have a more competitive senior county team in the future. I still think we need to look at the transition from minor to u21.
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