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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #450 on: May 17, 2017, 11:28:15 PM »
This wasn't the Tipperary u17 team

This was the North Division u17 team,not the mid,south or west combined  division team.

I actually felt sorry for Andrew there tonight on his own,That Tipp team had a 4 man management team and a full coaching set up while he appeared to be there on his own.




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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #451 on: May 17, 2017, 11:36:12 PM »
What was the Laois team? What was the Laois warm up v Tipps? It's an awful result. What's going on? Two huge losses in the space of 5 days.
Its the Celtic Challenge, it benefits counties with bigger picks. We dont have the pick. Why dont we have the pick? Because half the county dont give a f**k about hurling. Why dont we have the pick? Because 1/4 of the population live in a town who outside a small core, dont give a f**k about hurling. f**k the Celtic Challenge.

Yep Don

Here's a result from Round 1,Laois against a County with a huge population and not divided in 2 by hurling and football

Round 1 - Birr
Offaly 2-20 Laois 0-08

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #452 on: May 17, 2017, 11:41:18 PM »
What was the Laois team? What was the Laois warm up v Tipps? It's an awful result. What's going on? Two huge losses in the space of 5 days.
Its the Celtic Challenge, it benefits counties with bigger picks. We dont have the pick. Why dont we have the pick? Because half the county dont give a f**k about hurling. Why dont we have the pick? Because 1/4 of the population live in a town who outside a small core, dont give a f**k about hurling. f**k the Celtic Challenge.

Yep Don

Here's a result from Round 1,Laois against a County with a huge population and not divided in 2 by hurling and football

Round 1 - Birr
Offaly 2-20 Laois 0-08
Offaly hasnt a huge population. Do try to keep up.

The Portlaoise question needs to be fixed, its a disgrace.

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #453 on: May 18, 2017, 12:00:11 AM »
What was the Laois team? What was the Laois warm up v Tipps? It's an awful result. What's going on? Two huge losses in the space of 5 days.
Its the Celtic Challenge, it benefits counties with bigger picks. We dont have the pick. Why dont we have the pick? Because half the county dont give a f**k about hurling. Why dont we have the pick? Because 1/4 of the population live in a town who outside a small core, dont give a f**k about hurling. f**k the Celtic Challenge.

Yep Don

Here's a result from Round 1,Laois against a County with a huge population and not divided in 2 by hurling and football

Round 1 - Birr
Offaly 2-20 Laois 0-08
Offaly hasnt a huge population. Do try to keep up.

The Portlaoise question needs to be fixed, its a disgrace.

Whoosh.............


That's the sound of it going right over your head Don

Offaly don't have a big pick either and still bet us by 18 points

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #454 on: May 18, 2017, 06:27:38 AM »
Don you're dead right about the Portlaoise problem. About the same population as Kilrenny which has 3 massive hurling clubs as opposed to 1in Portlaoise which often seems to have little interest in hurling. 

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« Reply #455 on: May 18, 2017, 09:06:34 AM »
Don you're dead right about the Portlaoise problem. About the same population as Kilrenny which has 3 massive hurling clubs as opposed to 1in Portlaoise which often seems to have little interest in hurling.
Its a thundering disgrace. They seem incapable of growing hurling in the town, how hard could it be? The interest to do it obviously isnt there. It should be taken out of their hands. What hope have we with 1/4 of our population in one area, to be serviced by one club. And as we've seen on here, that club is content to go out of their way to poach other clubs players as has happened in the last 12 months. What hope have we as a county?

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #456 on: May 18, 2017, 09:07:39 AM »
A quarter of the counties population reside in Portlaoise, and they cant field a second team. Theres your f**king problem.


Not that I want to be seen defending Portlaoise, but they do have a second team.
Also, Portlaoise was never much of a hurling town until that good group came in the early '80s. Of course, there's no reason that shouldn't have been built on, but there's obviously not a strong enough cohort within the club to push the cause of hurling to the fore.
Portlaoise do seem very bad at holding onto lads, however, or developing good underage structures.

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #457 on: May 18, 2017, 09:10:05 AM »
A quarter of the counties population reside in Portlaoise, and they cant field a second team. Theres your f**king problem.


Not that I want to be seen defending Portlaoise, but they do have a second team.
Also, Portlaoise was never much of a hurling town until that good group came in the early '80s. Of course, there's no reason that shouldn't have been built on, but there's obviously not a strong enough cohort within the club to push the cause of hurling to the fore.
Portlaoise do seem very bad at holding onto lads, however, or developing good underage structures.
Have a look at what I said, I didn't say they hadn't one, I said THEY CANT FIELD A SECOND TEAM.

Look at last nights fixtures
17/05/2017
ACHL Div 3
19:30   Rathdowney Errill   -   vs   -   Portlaoise GAA   Conceded by Portlaoise GAA

The last part of your post is the problem. There is NO EXCUSE for Portlaoise not having a strong hurling club, ONE QUARTER of the counties population! Its a simple numbers game.

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #458 on: May 18, 2017, 09:12:12 AM »
Yeah, well, their Division 5 team fields, so it is de facto their second team.

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #459 on: May 18, 2017, 09:16:03 AM »
Yeah, well, their Division 5 team fields, so it is de facto their second team.
With the best will in the world, thats still unacceptable from the club, and the county. Its in fact, embarrassing.

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« Reply #460 on: May 18, 2017, 09:23:17 AM »
Two of the best county hurling men are in Portlaoise. If Critchley and Cheddar cannot get the participation rate up then nobody will. Are the street leagues still going on in the town? Also, would Clonad not take players from the town?
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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #461 on: May 18, 2017, 09:25:51 AM »
Two of the best county hurling men are in Portlaoise. If Critchley and Cheddar cannot get the participation rate up then nobody will. Are the street leagues still going on in the town? Also, would Clonad not take players from the town?
They can do f**k all unless the will of the club is behind them. Besides, they've been preoccupied with Laois for some number of years now. Its already been mentioned here that Portlaoise have taken players from Clonad in recent years, not the other way round.

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #462 on: May 18, 2017, 10:14:15 AM »
Portlaoise are taking players from Clonad and Park,not the other way round.

Portlaoise is one issue.

The other issue has is the apathy at best and downright hostility at worst towards hurling by the football clubs in this county.

While it's great to see Slieve Margey in place the reality is that the few good people in that club are fighting a losing battle but hey,at least the football clubs involved can pat themselves on the back and say shur aren't we offering hurling.

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #463 on: May 18, 2017, 10:27:34 AM »
Is the Portlaoise team thats in Div 5 bascially there intermediate team?Thats not fair if so ...heard likes of Brian Mulligan is togging for them they put up some score against Trumera this week.
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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #464 on: May 18, 2017, 10:27:42 AM »
The Slieve Margy experiment would seem to have failed already sadly.

We have little hurling resources in this county. Time to follow the GAA template in Dublin and pour the majority of them into Portlaoise. Keep the rest going, but for now, we need to solve the Portlaois problem, because it seems obvious Portlaoise cant seem to solve it.