Jim McGuinness: Sadly I must wash some dirty linen in public ...

[macdanger2]

Always felt the Kerry system was quite fair.  Players get holiday plus X grand spending money. If players don't go on holiday they get the X grand spending money.

Correct me if I'm wrong here but aren't AI tickets that come through the Kerry CB subject to an €10 surcharge for a players' fund?? Seems like a good idea that the people who are going to the final should contribute

[Rufus T Firefly]

For the same reason that he kicked Cassidy off the squad trip that year. Hypocrisy.

He kicked Cassidy off the panel because of hypocrisy?

You will have to explain that!

My understanding is that Cassidy was kicked off the panel because he gave (a relatively innocent) insight into what went on within the squad, and as such was deemed to have broken some sort of confidence?

Jim McGuinness is now airing an issue on a national stage which would probably be better kept within Donegal - by publcising it he has cast a light on issues that reflect badly on the County - as the headline says, airs dirty linen in public.

In light of that, I would have thought that it could be argued that McGuinness was being inconsistent in his approach, or as Shane has alluded to, hypocritical. It was why I posed the question originally as to what Cassidy's thoughts on that headline might be. 

[GalwayBayBoy]

http://www.balls.ie/gaa/jim-mcguinness-kevin-cassidy/310829

Fair to say Jimmy is not on Kevin Cassidy's Christmas card list anyway.

Earlier this year, Cassidy broke his silence on that acrimonious parting of ways by revealing McGuinness' final words to him as he left the squad.

We parted company and as I made my way down the stairs of the Clanree Hotel Jim shouted: 'And remember you are bound by that legal document and you can never talk about anything when you leave here.

It's fair to say Cassidy isn't too bothered by that warning because he's used his Gaelic Life column this week to fire some shots at McGuinness in light of the holiday complaints.

[McGuinness] must have a short memory because it wasn't that long ago that he blocked my wife and I from going on a team holiday. The phrase; pot, kettle, black springs to mind!! But then again for me the words Jim McGuinness and hypocrisy go hand in hand!

[Rufus T Firefly]

[McGuinness] must have a short memory because it wasn't that long ago that he blocked my wife and I from going on a team holiday. The phrase; pot, kettle, black springs to mind!! But then again for me the words Jim McGuinness and hypocrisy go hand in hand!

Thanks for that GBB - that answers my question!

[yellowcard]

Hard to believe that McGuinness wouldn't know the reaction that this story would get by using a national column to air his dirty linen, as he's far from a stupid man. Any publicity is better than no publicity I suppose.

[The Bearded One]

I've heard he has a book coming out...ghost writer Declan Bogue.

[J70]

For the same reason that he kicked Cassidy off the squad trip that year. Hypocrisy.

He kicked Cassidy off the panel because of hypocrisy?

You will have to explain that!

My understanding is that Cassidy was kicked off the panel because he gave (a relatively innocent) insight into what went on within the squad, and as such was deemed to have broken some sort of confidence?

Jim McGuinness is now airing an issue on a national stage which would probably be better kept within Donegal - by publcising it he has cast a light on issues that reflect badly on the County - as the headline says, airs dirty linen in public.

In light of that, I would have thought that it could be argued that McGuinness was being inconsistent in his approach, or as Shane has alluded to, hypocritical. It was why I posed the question originally as to what Cassidy's thoughts on that headline might be.

But its almost a year since the holiday in question. McGuinness, according to his article, exhausted all other avenues to no avail. Had the county board done as they should have done before now, he wouldn't have written the article. He has been writing for the Times since May or so, and has been on tv all summer, and never mentioned a word. Neither did anyone else.

Cassidy, on the other hand, went behind his back and spilled the beans on what was taking place within the camp. Now you can make an argument that McGuinness overreacted given what was actually put in the book (Brian Dawkins stuff aside), but that is beside the point. There was no need for Cassidy to "air dirty linen" at all. McGuinness, on the other hand, acted out of frustration on behalf of himself and six others.

They're not equivalent at all.

[J70]

[McGuinness] must have a short memory because it wasn't that long ago that he blocked my wife and I from going on a team holiday. The phrase; pot, kettle, black springs to mind!! But then again for me the words Jim McGuinness and hypocrisy go hand in hand!

Thanks for that GBB - that answers my question!

Cassidy is full of shit. He received his voucher. That is these seven lads DID NOT GET and what the row is over. If McGuinness was complaining about not being allowed to go on the trip, THEN that would be hypocrisy!

John Fogarty: Were you compensated for not being invited on the team holiday?

Kevin Cassidy: "Yeah, in fairness they looked after us with a voucher. I wouldn't have been happy with how I was dealt with but that's for another day."

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/you-miss-out-on-a-medal-but-its-not-going-to-pay-your-bills-208461.html

[ONeill]

[McGuinness] must have a short memory because it wasn't that long ago that he blocked my wife and I from going on a team holiday. The phrase; pot, kettle, black springs to mind!! But then again for me the words Jim McGuinness and hypocrisy go hand in hand!

Thanks for that GBB - that answers my question!

Cassidy is full of shit. He received his voucher. That is these seven lads DID NOT GET and what the row is over. If McGuinness was complaining about not being allowed to go on the trip, THEN that would be hypocrisy!

John Fogarty: Were you compensated for not being invited on the team holiday?

Kevin Cassidy: "Yeah, in fairness they looked after us with a voucher. I wouldn't have been happy with how I was dealt with but that's for another day."

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/you-miss-out-on-a-medal-but-its-not-going-to-pay-your-bills-208461.html

You're a brave man behind the keyboard there. The quote you provided indicates it wasn't straight forward but Cassidy doesn't want to go into it.

Secondly, a large portion of McGuinness' article was set aside to highlight the hard work and sacrifices players make and how they should enjoy the perks like a holiday. Yet this same man, from reading between the lines, did everything in his power to deny Cassidy anything in terms of recognition. The blood, sweat and tears counted for nothing in Jim's eyes that year. That's the hypocrisy.

[INDIANA]

For the same reason that he kicked Cassidy off the squad trip that year. Hypocrisy.

He kicked Cassidy off the panel because of hypocrisy?

You will have to explain that!

My understanding is that Cassidy was kicked off the panel because he gave (a relatively innocent) insight into what went on within the squad, and as such was deemed to have broken some sort of confidence?

Jim McGuinness is now airing an issue on a national stage which would probably be better kept within Donegal - by publcising it he has cast a light on issues that reflect badly on the County - as the headline says, airs dirty linen in public.

In light of that, I would have thought that it could be argued that McGuinness was being inconsistent in his approach, or as Shane has alluded to, hypocritical. It was why I posed the question originally as to what Cassidy's thoughts on that headline might be.

But its almost a year since the holiday in question. McGuinness, according to his article, exhausted all other avenues to no avail. Had the county board done as they should have done before now, he wouldn't have written the article. He has been writing for the Times since May or so, and has been on tv all summer, and never mentioned a word. Neither did anyone else.

Cassidy, on the other hand, went behind his back and spilled the beans on what was taking place within the camp. Now you can make an argument that McGuinness overreacted given what was actually put in the book (Brian Dawkins stuff aside), but that is beside the point. There was no need for Cassidy to "air dirty linen" at all. McGuinness, on the other hand, acted out of frustration on behalf of himself and six others.

They're not equivalent at all.

You'd have to ask why he's raising the issue 12 months later when he could have done it in the winter of 2014. He absolutely loves the spotlight. If he was an Ice-cream he'd lick himself (maybe J70 would do it for him)

[blanketattack]

Always felt the Kerry system was quite fair.  Players get holiday plus X grand spending money. If players don't go on holiday they get the X grand spending money.

Correct me if I'm wrong here but aren't AI tickets that come through the Kerry CB subject to an €10 surcharge for a players' fund?? Seems like a good idea that the people who are going to the final should contribute

I think it was €5 and only happened once or twice. I think the GAA banned that practice anyway. It was better than players selling calendars and tickets anyway.

[Dabh]

Always felt the Kerry system was quite fair.  Players get holiday plus X grand spending money. If players don't go on holiday they get the X grand spending money.

Correct me if I'm wrong here but aren't AI tickets that come through the Kerry CB subject to an €10 surcharge for a players' fund?? Seems like a good idea that the people who are going to the final should contribute

I think it was €5 and only happened once or twice. I think the GAA banned that practice anyway. It was better than players selling calendars and tickets anyway.

If you want any AI ticket from the Kerry CB you have to buy a €10 Kerry GAA Raffle Ticket - been that way for years.

[J70]

For the same reason that he kicked Cassidy off the squad trip that year. Hypocrisy.

He kicked Cassidy off the panel because of hypocrisy?

You will have to explain that!

My understanding is that Cassidy was kicked off the panel because he gave (a relatively innocent) insight into what went on within the squad, and as such was deemed to have broken some sort of confidence?

Jim McGuinness is now airing an issue on a national stage which would probably be better kept within Donegal - by publcising it he has cast a light on issues that reflect badly on the County - as the headline says, airs dirty linen in public.

In light of that, I would have thought that it could be argued that McGuinness was being inconsistent in his approach, or as Shane has alluded to, hypocritical. It was why I posed the question originally as to what Cassidy's thoughts on that headline might be.

But its almost a year since the holiday in question. McGuinness, according to his article, exhausted all other avenues to no avail. Had the county board done as they should have done before now, he wouldn't have written the article. He has been writing for the Times since May or so, and has been on tv all summer, and never mentioned a word. Neither did anyone else.

Cassidy, on the other hand, went behind his back and spilled the beans on what was taking place within the camp. Now you can make an argument that McGuinness overreacted given what was actually put in the book (Brian Dawkins stuff aside), but that is beside the point. There was no need for Cassidy to "air dirty linen" at all. McGuinness, on the other hand, acted out of frustration on behalf of himself and six others.

They're not equivalent at all.

You'd have to ask why he's raising the issue 12 months later when he could have done it in the winter of 2014. He absolutely loves the spotlight. If he was an Ice-cream he'd lick himself (maybe J70 would do it for him)

He explained in the article why he waited.

[J70]

[McGuinness] must have a short memory because it wasn't that long ago that he blocked my wife and I from going on a team holiday. The phrase; pot, kettle, black springs to mind!! But then again for me the words Jim McGuinness and hypocrisy go hand in hand!

Thanks for that GBB - that answers my question!

Cassidy is full of shit. He received his voucher. That is these seven lads DID NOT GET and what the row is over. If McGuinness was complaining about not being allowed to go on the trip, THEN that would be hypocrisy!

John Fogarty: Were you compensated for not being invited on the team holiday?

Kevin Cassidy: "Yeah, in fairness they looked after us with a voucher. I wouldn't have been happy with how I was dealt with but that's for another day."

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/you-miss-out-on-a-medal-but-its-not-going-to-pay-your-bills-208461.html

You're a brave man behind the keyboard there. The quote you provided indicates it wasn't straight forward but Cassidy doesn't want to go into it.

Secondly, a large portion of McGuinness' article was set aside to highlight the hard work and sacrifices players make and how they should enjoy the perks like a holiday. Yet this same man, from reading between the lines, did everything in his power to deny Cassidy anything in terms of recognition. The blood, sweat and tears counted for nothing in Jim's eyes that year. That's the hypocrisy.

1. The obvious interpretation of Cassidy being unhappy with how he was dealt with would be the whole getting booted off the holiday in the first place. Which is fair enough.

2. Where and how did he try to deny recognition to Cassidy? By preventing him from joining the team on the holiday? Heavy handed and over the top, for sure, not to let him join the rest, but he still got the voucher and the holiday.

3. Cassidy is putting his tuppence worth out there and does not hold back any time, including on the Donegal team. I generally find his comments interesting for that reason. In this case, I think he is making an invalid comparison. Doubt if its the first time someone has disagreed with his opinion, not least on here. God help him if he ever gets the Sunday Game gig!

[J70]

McGuinness has a book out soon. Should be interesting reading, and Cas will no doubt has plenty to say too!

Wonder will Rory Kavanagh gives his opinion in his upcoming book?