Author Topic: Cillian O'Connor wins Golden Boot Race  (Read 5318 times)

tonto1888

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2344
    • View Profile
Re: Cillian O'Connor wins Golden Boot Race
« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2019, 08:07:49 PM »
Do Mayo fans seriously consider this boy to be a marquee forward? He's not in the same league as lads like Murphy or McManus. Would be a great shame to see him become all time top scorer on the back of hundreds of gimme frees.

Id be interested to see how much he scored from play against Dublin versus the Goochs tally

Do scores from play count more?

Mayo4Sam

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3788
  • John Says Keep The Faith
    • View Profile
Re: Cillian O'Connor wins Golden Boot Race
« Reply #46 on: July 01, 2019, 08:56:27 PM »
Do Mayo fans seriously consider this boy to be a marquee forward? He's not in the same league as lads like Murphy or McManus. Would be a great shame to see him become all time top scorer on the back of hundreds of gimme frees.

Id be interested to see how much he scored from play against Dublin versus the Goochs tally
Iwhy do people forget what Games are actually about that is the team that scores the most wins, And that's what cillian brings to mayo for years mayo had good team but no free taker and teams felt free to pull and drag them at no cost . Cillian is the the most effective forward in the country over the last 7 or 8 years and crucifies poor team whose  defenders 1st thought is to foul.

I agree with most of this except being the most effective forward in the country over the last 7/8 years. Surely rock has been more so?

Rock is actually two years older which I was amazed at, COC averages 7.1, Rock 5.2, Rock has played 10 games less (50 v 40) but is 150 points behind. I thought they would have been much more comparable because they are very similar

Anyone who questions COC just needs to look at this point and then f*k off and accept they know f**k all about f**k all when it comes to football

https://youtu.be/AHMVIKM7wCg

Thats 10 seconds away from the end of seven minutes of injury time and he kicks it from just inside the 45, for his 7th point in an all ireland final.

And if right was right he'd have been given the chance to kick his 8th when Small picked the ball clean off the ground
Excuse me for talking while you're trying to interrupt me

larryin89

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2044
    • View Profile
Re: Cillian O'Connor wins Golden Boot Race
« Reply #47 on: July 01, 2019, 09:17:52 PM »
Think it was bastick
Not a sheep stole in Castlebar since 1986.

whitey

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2862
    • View Profile
Re: Cillian O'Connor wins Golden Boot Race
« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2019, 09:37:15 PM »
Do Mayo fans seriously consider this boy to be a marquee forward? He's not in the same league as lads like Murphy or McManus. Would be a great shame to see him become all time top scorer on the back of hundreds of gimme frees.

Id be interested to see how much he scored from play against Dublin versus the Goochs tally

Do scores from play count more?

No....but breaking it out gives a more accurate picture of a players ability

A $hite player could put up a big tally from frees, but a very good player (like COC) would score from both frees and open play

From the Bunker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8532
    • View Profile
Re: Cillian O'Connor wins Golden Boot Race
« Reply #49 on: July 01, 2019, 09:52:05 PM »
Do Mayo fans seriously consider this boy to be a marquee forward? He's not in the same league as lads like Murphy or McManus. Would be a great shame to see him become all time top scorer on the back of hundreds of gimme frees.

Id be interested to see how much he scored from play against Dublin versus the Goochs tally
Iwhy do people forget what Games are actually about that is the team that scores the most wins, And that's what cillian brings to mayo for years mayo had good team but no free taker and teams felt free to pull and drag them at no cost . Cillian is the the most effective forward in the country over the last 7 or 8 years and crucifies poor team whose  defenders 1st thought is to foul.

I agree with most of this except being the most effective forward in the country over the last 7/8 years. Surely rock has been more so?

Rock is actually two years older which I was amazed at, COC averages 7.1, Rock 5.2, Rock has played 10 games less (50 v 40) but is 150 points behind. I thought they would have been much more comparable because they are very similar

Anyone who questions COC just needs to look at this point and then f*k off and accept they know f**k all about f**k all when it comes to football

https://youtu.be/AHMVIKM7wCg

Thats 10 seconds away from the end of seven minutes of injury time and he kicks it from just inside the 45, for his 7th point in an all ireland final.

And if right was right he'd have been given the chance to kick his 8th when Small picked the ball clean off the ground

Yes the Referee bottled that one! You'll never get them calls against the Dubs in Croke Park! NEVER!

Kurtz

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 150
    • View Profile
Re: Cillian O'Connor wins Golden Boot Race
« Reply #50 on: July 02, 2019, 07:56:37 AM »
Do Mayo fans seriously consider this boy to be a marquee forward? He's not in the same league as lads like Murphy or McManus. Would be a great shame to see him become all time top scorer on the back of hundreds of gimme frees.

Id be interested to see how much he scored from play against Dublin versus the Goochs tally
Iwhy do people forget what Games are actually about that is the team that scores the most wins, And that's what cillian brings to mayo for years mayo had good team but no free taker and teams felt free to pull and drag them at no cost . Cillian is the the most effective forward in the country over the last 7 or 8 years and crucifies poor team whose  defenders 1st thought is to foul.

I agree with most of this except being the most effective forward in the country over the last 7/8 years. Surely rock has been more so?

Rock is actually two years older which I was amazed at, COC averages 7.1, Rock 5.2, Rock has played 10 games less (50 v 40) but is 150 points behind. I thought they would have been much more comparable because they are very similar

Anyone who questions COC just needs to look at this point and then f*k off and accept they know f**k all about f**k all when it comes to football

https://youtu.be/AHMVIKM7wCg

Thats 10 seconds away from the end of seven minutes of injury time and he kicks it from just inside the 45, for his 7th point in an all ireland final.

And if right was right he'd have been given the chance to kick his 8th when Small picked the ball clean off the ground

But Rock plays with a higher scoring group of players
so he will score less than COC (Mayo need him more)
That video clip is not a great example. Because Mayo should have won that game by about 5 points
But, in the end Dublin were leading by a point before that kick. It kind of sums up that Mayo sqaud if anything.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2019, 08:10:40 AM by Kurtz »

kerryforsam19

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 236
    • View Profile
Re: Cillian O'Connor wins Golden Boot Race
« Reply #51 on: July 02, 2019, 08:18:24 AM »
Do Mayo fans seriously consider this boy to be a marquee forward? He's not in the same league as lads like Murphy or McManus. Would be a great shame to see him become all time top scorer on the back of hundreds of gimme frees.

Id be interested to see how much he scored from play against Dublin versus the Goochs tally
Iwhy do people forget what Games are actually about that is the team that scores the most wins, And that's what cillian brings to mayo for years mayo had good team but no free taker and teams felt free to pull and drag them at no cost . Cillian is the the most effective forward in the country over the last 7 or 8 years and crucifies poor team whose  defenders 1st thought is to foul.

I agree with most of this except being the most effective forward in the country over the last 7/8 years. Surely rock has been more so?

Rock is actually two years older which I was amazed at, COC averages 7.1, Rock 5.2, Rock has played 10 games less (50 v 40) but is 150 points behind. I thought they would have been much more comparable because they are very similar

Anyone who questions COC just needs to look at this point and then f*k off and accept they know f**k all about f**k all when it comes to football

https://youtu.be/AHMVIKM7wCg

Thats 10 seconds away from the end of seven minutes of injury time and he kicks it from just inside the 45, for his 7th point in an all ireland final.

And if right was right he'd have been given the chance to kick his 8th when Small picked the ball clean off the ground

Yes the Referee bottled that one! You'll never get them calls against the Dubs in Croke Park! NEVER!

A thread about Cillian Connors turns into Dublin again.  Do you think about kerry and the dubs more than your own family? 😥😥😥😥😥

Mayo4Sam

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3788
  • John Says Keep The Faith
    • View Profile
Re: Cillian O'Connor wins Golden Boot Race
« Reply #52 on: July 02, 2019, 03:00:36 PM »
Do Mayo fans seriously consider this boy to be a marquee forward? He's not in the same league as lads like Murphy or McManus. Would be a great shame to see him become all time top scorer on the back of hundreds of gimme frees.

Id be interested to see how much he scored from play against Dublin versus the Goochs tally
Iwhy do people forget what Games are actually about that is the team that scores the most wins, And that's what cillian brings to mayo for years mayo had good team but no free taker and teams felt free to pull and drag them at no cost . Cillian is the the most effective forward in the country over the last 7 or 8 years and crucifies poor team whose  defenders 1st thought is to foul.

I agree with most of this except being the most effective forward in the country over the last 7/8 years. Surely rock has been more so?

Rock is actually two years older which I was amazed at, COC averages 7.1, Rock 5.2, Rock has played 10 games less (50 v 40) but is 150 points behind. I thought they would have been much more comparable because they are very similar

Anyone who questions COC just needs to look at this point and then f*k off and accept they know f**k all about f**k all when it comes to football

https://youtu.be/AHMVIKM7wCg

Thats 10 seconds away from the end of seven minutes of injury time and he kicks it from just inside the 45, for his 7th point in an all ireland final.

And if right was right he'd have been given the chance to kick his 8th when Small picked the ball clean off the ground

But Rock plays with a higher scoring group of players
so he will score less than COC (Mayo need him more)
That video clip is not a great example. Because Mayo should have won that game by about 5 points
But, in the end Dublin were leading by a point before that kick. It kind of sums up that Mayo sqaud if anything.

No more than it not being about Dublin its not about the Mayo team either, they were where they were and he kicked an absolute monster score under pressure with 10 seconds left in the biggest game of the year

Excuse me for talking while you're trying to interrupt me

Falcao

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 20
    • View Profile
Re: Cillian O'Connor wins Golden Boot Race
« Reply #53 on: July 02, 2019, 03:54:01 PM »
Do Mayo fans seriously consider this boy to be a marquee forward? He's not in the same league as lads like Murphy or McManus. Would be a great shame to see him become all time top scorer on the back of hundreds of gimme frees.

Id be interested to see how much he scored from play against Dublin versus the Goochs tally
Iwhy do people forget what Games are actually about that is the team that scores the most wins, And that's what cillian brings to mayo for years mayo had good team but no free taker and teams felt free to pull and drag them at no cost . Cillian is the the most effective forward in the country over the last 7 or 8 years and crucifies poor team whose  defenders 1st thought is to foul.

I agree with most of this except being the most effective forward in the country over the last 7/8 years. Surely rock has been more so?

Rock is actually two years older which I was amazed at, COC averages 7.1, Rock 5.2, Rock has played 10 games less (50 v 40) but is 150 points behind. I thought they would have been much more comparable because they are very similar

Anyone who questions COC just needs to look at this point and then f*k off and accept they know f**k all about f**k all when it comes to football

https://youtu.be/AHMVIKM7wCg

Thats 10 seconds away from the end of seven minutes of injury time and he kicks it from just inside the 45, for his 7th point in an all ireland final.

And if right was right he'd have been given the chance to kick his 8th when Small picked the ball clean off the ground

Sure that video you just linked to clearly shows Bastick got his foot under the ball when picking it up #deluded

magpie seanie

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12328
    • View Profile
Re: Cillian O'Connor wins Golden Boot Race
« Reply #54 on: July 02, 2019, 04:39:56 PM »
Do Mayo fans seriously consider this boy to be a marquee forward? He's not in the same league as lads like Murphy or McManus. Would be a great shame to see him become all time top scorer on the back of hundreds of gimme frees.

Id be interested to see how much he scored from play against Dublin versus the Goochs tally
Iwhy do people forget what Games are actually about that is the team that scores the most wins, And that's what cillian brings to mayo for years mayo had good team but no free taker and teams felt free to pull and drag them at no cost . Cillian is the the most effective forward in the country over the last 7 or 8 years and crucifies poor team whose  defenders 1st thought is to foul.

I agree with most of this except being the most effective forward in the country over the last 7/8 years. Surely rock has been more so?

Rock is actually two years older which I was amazed at, COC averages 7.1, Rock 5.2, Rock has played 10 games less (50 v 40) but is 150 points behind. I thought they would have been much more comparable because they are very similar

Anyone who questions COC just needs to look at this point and then f*k off and accept they know f**k all about f**k all when it comes to football

https://youtu.be/AHMVIKM7wCg

Thats 10 seconds away from the end of seven minutes of injury time and he kicks it from just inside the 45, for his 7th point in an all ireland final.

And if right was right he'd have been given the chance to kick his 8th when Small picked the ball clean off the ground

Sure that video you just linked to clearly shows Bastick got his foot under the ball when picking it up #deluded


Ya, left foot for the pickup. If you're looking for technical fouls in that clip count the steps by the Sligoman in the build up.

oakleaflad

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1058
    • View Profile
Re: Cillian O'Connor wins Golden Boot Race
« Reply #55 on: July 02, 2019, 04:42:37 PM »
For reference:

Rank    Player              Team     Scores   Tally   Games   Era              Average
1   Colm Cooper      Kerry      23-283   352   84 games   2002-2017    4.1
2   Cillian O'Connor      Mayo     23-274   343   49 games   2011-           7.1
3   Mikey Sheehy      Kerry       29-205   292   49 games   1973-1988           6
4   John Doyle              Kildare     8-260   284   67 games   1999-2014    4.2
5   Padraig Joyce      Galway     12-229   265   66 games   1997-2012    4
6   Bernard Brogan      Dublin     21-196   259   58 games   2006-           4.5
7   Paddy Bradley      Derry     17-202   253   44 games   1999-2012    5.8
8   Steven McDonnell  Armagh     18-197   251   67 games   1999-2011    3.7
9   Maurice Fitzgerald Kerry     12-205   241   45 games   1988-2001    5.4
10   Conor McManus      Monaghan 7-227   248   56 games   2005-           4.5
11   Brian Stafford      Meath     9-206   233   41 games   1986-1995           5.7
12   Oisin McConville      Armagh     11-197   230   52 games   1994-2008           4.4
13   Jimmy Keaveney   Dublin     15-182   227   42 games   1964-1980    5.4
14   Peter Canavan      Tyrone     9-192   219   58 games   1989-2005    3.8
15   Sean Cavanagh      Tyrone     9-181   208   89 games   2002-2017    2.3
16   Dean Rock              Dublin     8-177   197   39 games   2013-           5.2
17   Colin Corkery      Cork     5-182   197   32 games   1993-2004           6.2
18   Ross Munnelly      Laois     6-174   192   74 games   2003-           2.6
19   Michael Murphy      Donegal     3-188   197   53 games   2007-           3.7
20   Dara O'Cinneide      Kerry     11-149   182   54 games   1995-2005    3.4
21   Matt Connor      Offaly     13-142   181   26 games   1978-1984    7
22   Pat Spillane      Kerry     19-123   180   56 games   1974-1991    3.2


« Last Edit: July 02, 2019, 04:51:39 PM by oakleaflad »

Ball Hopper

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1090
    • View Profile
Re: Cillian O'Connor wins Golden Boot Race
« Reply #56 on: July 02, 2019, 04:48:35 PM »
For reference:

Rank    Player              Team     Scores   Tally   Games   Era              Average
1   Colin Cooper      Kerry      23-283   352   84 games   2002-2017    4.1
2   Cillian O'Connor      Mayo     23-274   343   49 games   2011-           7.1
3   Mikey Sheehy      Kerry       29-205   292   49 games   1973-1988           6
4   John Doyle              Kildare     8-260   284   67 games   1999-2014    4.2
5   Padraig Joyce      Galway     12-229   265   66 games   1997-2012    4
6   Bernard Brogan      Dublin     21-196   259   58 games   2006-           4.5
7   Paddy Bradley      Derry     17-202   253   44 games   1999-2012    5.8
8   Steven McDonnell  Armagh     18-197   251   67 games   1999-2011    3.7
9   Maurice Fitzgerald Kerry     12-205   241   45 games   1988-2001    5.4
10   Conor McManus      Monaghan 7-227   248   56 games   2005-           4.5
11   Brian Stafford      Meath     9-206   233   41 games   1986-1995           5.7
12   Oisin McConville      Armagh     11-197   230   52 games   1994-2008           4.4
13   Jimmy Keaveney   Dublin     15-182   227   42 games   1964-1980    5.4
14   Peter Canavan      Tyrone     9-192   219   58 games   1989-2005    3.8
15   Sean Cavanagh      Tyrone     9-181   208   89 games   2002-2017    2.3
16   Dean Rock              Dublin     8-177   197   39 games   2013-           5.2
17   Colin Corkery      Cork     5-182   197   32 games   1993-2004           6.2
18   Ross Munnelly      Laois     6-174   192   74 games   2003-           2.6
19   Michael Murphy      Donegal     3-188   197   53 games   2007-           3.7
20   Dara O'Cinneide      Kerry     11-149   182   54 games   1995-2005    3.4
21   Matt Connor      Offaly     13-142   181   26 games   1978-1984    7
22   Pat Spillane      Kerry     19-123   180   56 games   1974-1991    3.2

Colin Cooper...how many times is that mistake repeated?

oakleaflad

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1058
    • View Profile
Re: Cillian O'Connor wins Golden Boot Race
« Reply #57 on: July 02, 2019, 04:52:27 PM »
Copy and paste job from me. I've corrected it.

Ball Hopper

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1090
    • View Profile
Re: Cillian O'Connor wins Golden Boot Race
« Reply #58 on: July 02, 2019, 06:07:59 PM »
Copy and paste job from me. I've corrected it.

Checked the wiki link on Colin...some soccer player in England.

Maroon Manc

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2501
    • View Profile
Re: Cillian O'Connor wins Golden Boot Race
« Reply #59 on: July 19, 2019, 01:29:34 PM »
Don't think anyone divides opinion as much as Cillian O'Connor.