Teddy McCarthy not allowed in for Cork jubilee celebrations

[T Fearon]

I disagree.I would imagine Croke Park on All Ireland Final day is mayhem,and inevitably things occur on the day to increase the mayhem.Way over the top over reaction to a fairly innocuous misunderstanding, and worst of all the failure to calm down and wise up afterwards,beggars belief.

[armaghniac]

I disagree.I would imagine Croke Park on All Ireland Final day is mayhem,and inevitably things occur on the day to increase the mayhem.Way over the top over reaction to a fairly innocuous misunderstanding, and worst of all the failure to calm down and wise up afterwards,beggars belief.

It is only mayhem if it is not organised. All that was required was for the first person to say, "I'm sorry Sir, you need to go to X" where x is the correct gate. Not difficult. He eventually spoke to the Head of Security who told him to go away, rather than bringing him to the lunch or whatever needed to be done. It is useful that arrogance and incompetence is exposed, although I'm sure nothing will be done about it, as usual.

[general_lee]

Openly admits he lost the rag. Security asked him to leave and return km an hour. Manys a door man has told me likewise (without good reason) so I can empathise a bit. Moral of the story don't be a dick head around door staff cos then they definitely won't let you in.

[longballin]

Teddy has had his demons - was some player. Is how I like to remember him. Tony and a few happy to stick the boot in now.   

[Bord na Mona man]

Fault on both sides I'm sure. Croke Park staff are under pressure and encounter a lot of people who are lost, in the wrong place, trying to wrangle a seating upgrade, or God knows what. A lot of staff wouldn't be necessarily GAA people either, whether they be drawn from the local community or non-nationals. Unfortunately players and past legends can often be a lesser consideration for those in charge of stadium logistics.

Last year Tomas O Se wrote about Peter McKenna:

"I know stadium director Peter McKenna is brilliant at what he does, but his brief isn't the promotion of the GAA. His brief is to drive the commercial side of the Association and I applaud him for it. He's clearly a very shrewd operator.

But I remember walking down a corridor of Croke Park after winning the All-Ireland in '09, being stopped by him and asked where I was going. He didn't know who I was from Adam. I explained that I was a player, just trying to get down to meet some friends.

I'll admit I was lost and I'm pretty sure that, technically, I shouldn't have been where I found myself. But, at that moment, I might as well have been an intruder caught climbing down out of an air-vent. Look he's a busy guy and I know he's doing a fantastic job."

Also, Teddy McCarthy overreacted too. We've all been in similar situations. Imagine how Teddy would react if he had to ring tech support for UPC or Eircom? It would be youtube gold I'm sure. After you've been sent from pillar to post a couple of times, surely you either ask to be let in the entrance you're at, or ask the person to escort you to the correct location, or else ask to see their supervisor.

[Hardy]

Exactly.

On the one hand I've seen the engagement of Croke Park personnel, from top to bottom, with their paying customers and their default approach is that of a pig. With a dose of piles and a superior attitude.

On the other hand I've now had a couple of decades' experience of how Cork GAA people approach a problem, difficulty or misunderstanding. And Teddy's approach seems to have been straight from the text book.

The most salient comment I've seen:

its the Corks birth-right to throw tantrums

[Rossfan]

Could he not have contacted Frank Murphy?
That would have fixed everyrhing

[Kickham csc]

I'm sorry, but why is it Teddy's fault??

This seems to be a clear case of incompetent staff, an incompetent/ arrogant manager, and a frustrated guest!!!

He turns up with the right tickets, and the paid staff, not only were not able to help him get in, but were hindering him to get in.

If he loses his temper, the paid security security staff should have acted professionally, cooled the situation and got him to where he was meant to be. It's called good service.
But to be told to come back in an hour, by that time he would have missed a major part of the get together is a disgrace.

The head of security should get fired for this, and CP owe Teddy a hugh apology. (The silence from CP is also a disgrace)

Also, to people who are criticizing his "thick" personality trait, it was this same personality trait of not taking any BS during games that lead him to be a duel All Ireland winner....

[LeoMc]

I think in Mc Kinstry's case it was more a case of regular All Stars sticking together,that made him feel out on a limb.

Teddy Mc Carthy's behaviour is unforgivable.Not only abusing the privilege of free access at the highest level to the prime event in the GAA calendar,but he must surely have known that his absence from the parade would have been noticed and the reasons why explored.

While we are all capable of strops most of us calm down and put things in perspective.Mc Carthy's failure to do so,in response even to an Ex President's appeal to him to return,doesn't say much for him I'm afraid.

On  the contrary, his actions will expose the shoddy organisation at Croke Park that treats with contempt those it purports to honour. The public nature of this makes it likely that something will be done to rectify this.

I think Tony is outraged on 2 fronts here.

1. Someone else got the free tickets
2. There awa a lack of unquestioning obedience to soemone in Authority

[Boycey]

Given that Teddy went through the same process exactly two weeks previous he should of had some clue where he was supposed to go etc??

[Rossfan]

Given that Teddy went through the same process exactly two weeks previous he should of had some clue where he was supposed to go etc??

Red card 

[AZOffaly]

Given that Teddy went through the same process exactly two weeks previous he should of had some clue where he was supposed to go etc??

Teddy says that himself. I think he was in the right place first off, and the fact he was sent back there at the end would suggest the same.

[muppet]

Given that Teddy went through the same process exactly two weeks previous he should of had some clue where he was supposed to go etc??

Teddy says that himself. I think he was in the right place first off, and the fact he was sent back there at the end would suggest the same.

Teddy was de facto tried, found guilty and sanctioned by security, as evidenced by the 'go away and come back in an hour' statement.

If security was anyway important they would hire staff from further along the evolutionary chain, but they don't.

[Boycey]

Given that Teddy went through the same process exactly two weeks previous he should of had some clue where he was supposed to go etc??

Teddy says that himself. I think he was in the right place first off, and the fact he was sent back there at the end would suggest the same.

Teddy was de facto tried, found guilty and sanctioned by security, as evidenced by the 'go away and come back in an hour' statement.

If security was anyway important they would hire staff from further along the evolutionary chain, but they don't.

Sounds to me like you have tried and found guilty the security without knowing all of the facts...

[Croí na hÉireann]

Some people are just unreasonable, sounds like there were a few involved in this instance. Was up the premium for the hurling final a few years ago and called down to chat to the aul lad who was in a different section. Was standing out of the way at the back chatting away when a steward asked where was I sitting. Told him I was up the way and would be gone in a minute. Fella nearby overheard and said the seat beside him was free as his wife had left the ticket at home (she was probably from Cork  ) and wouldn't be coming. So I hopped in beside him and your man went away. He must have thought about this for 10 minutes as he arrived back and proceeded to make a hoo ha that I had to be in the exact seat on my ticket and the fire officer would be enforcing it. Some people.