Is Stormont going to fall?

Started by Denn Forever, August 21, 2015, 10:46:35 AM

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Applesisapples

Christ Adams was poor on GMU this morning, time to retire.

Pub Bore

Quote from: Applesisapples on September 11, 2015, 08:16:11 AM
Foster lets the unionist mask slip...rogue and renegade nationalists and republicans. You can't have a taig about the house the family silver would disappear.

Quite, shame on Mark Carruthers (and Alban Maginness) for not calling her out on it but that attitude is ingrained in most Unionists, even "moderates" and in the allegedly impartial BBCNI.  Fair play to Deirdre Heenan for bringing it up and Kelly for highlighting her nasty bigotry (and people call her a moderate!).  The DUP would trust a Muslim to go to the shops for them but they wouldn't even trust a Taig to do that.  This is how far we've come since the GFA...in other words we haven't progressed at all.

For the poster who called TV Mike a political genius, his performance on The View last night was embarrassing.  Even Prof Rick Wilford called it a car crash.

GJL


Dubh driocht

It's been interesting that the hokey-cokey has been invoked by Unionists as a term of abuse. Robinson accused the UUP of doing it on Tuesday and Danny Kennedy accused the DUP of doing it yesterday.Even Gerry Adams got in on the game this morning accusing the Unionists of behaving like they were at Lannigan's ball. When I was a minor footballer breaking in to the senior team and attending my first club dinner dance, being accomplished in the hokey-cokey was a recognised pathway to the first fifteen.

Milltown Row2

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

HiMucker



BennyCake

Quote from: Dubh driocht on September 11, 2015, 08:23:45 PM
It's been interesting that the hokey-cokey has been invoked by Unionists as a term of abuse. Robinson accused the UUP of doing it on Tuesday and Danny Kennedy accused the DUP of doing it yesterday.Even Gerry Adams got in on the game this morning accusing the Unionists of behaving like they were at Lannigan's ball. When I was a minor footballer breaking in to the senior team and attending my first club dinner dance, being accomplished in the hokey-cokey was a recognised pathway to the first fifteen.

Aye, but do the unionists shake it all about?

T Fearon

Question is if Stormont does fall,will be be any better off? I doubt it,with the British Govt (alongside their Dublin puppets) running amok knowing there's no votes at risk.

Rossfan

In that event the Brits will be pulling a lot of plugs from the 6 Cos.
Ye'll be in some fix then.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Applesisapples

It is time those of us who describe ourselves as Nationalists and Republicans wake up to the fact that Unionists don't want to share power. They still do not trust the fenians and when you look at how they behave in councils where they have a majority we would do well not to trust them. They were paranoid to begin with but the tide of demographics threatens to turn their largest minority status into a real minority with a nationalist (small n) majority. The absolute rank hypocrisy of them standing shoulder to shoulder with the UDA/UVF/OO and equivocating on violence should says all we need to know. SF and the SDLP should have the balls to collapse Stormont and push for joint authority, then in five years are so when the Shinners in government in the Dail are calling the shots perhaps unionists will see the error of their ways...or perhaps not.

Rossfan

#191
Shinners won't be calling the shots in the Dàil in 5 years ;)
They are only fielding 46 candidates this time round and will do well to get 30 in.
As the economy will have 5 more years of recovery by 2021 the SF mantra of being against everything will be somewhat irrelevant.
As for Stormont  - are Senior " Security" elements trying to get Unionists to pull the plug?
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

johnneycool

Quote from: Applesisapples on September 15, 2015, 09:18:05 AM
It is time those of us who describe ourselves as Nationalists and Republicans wake up to the fact that Unionists don't want to share power. They still do not trust the fenians and when you look at how they behave in councils where they have a majority we would do well not to trust them. They were paranoid to begin with but the tide of demographics threatens to turn their largest minority status into a real minority with a nationalist (small n) majority. The absolute rank hypocrisy of them standing shoulder to shoulder with the UDA/UVF/OO and equivocating on violence should says all we need to know. SF and the SDLP should have the balls to collapse Stormont and push for joint authority, then in five years are so when the Shinners in government in the Dail are calling the shots perhaps unionists will see the error of their ways...or perhaps not.

Shinners should be pushing for a new Stormont election as Mike TV and Jim Allister may take enough seats off the DUP for the Shinners to be the main party in there, as the SDLP haven't really done enough as yet to dent the Sinn Fein vote.

Mike will try and steal a lot of the hardline votes from the DUP, its whether he can still bring the blue rinse UUP vote along with him that remains to be seen, but he'll certainly splinter the PUL vote enough to take some seats although he may do his usual pacts to keep the croppies down in others.


Applesisapples

Quote from: Rossfan on September 15, 2015, 09:33:56 AM
Shinners won't be calling the shots in the Dàil in 5 years ;)
They are only fielding 46 candidates this time round and will do well to get 30 in.
As the economy will have 5 more years of recovery by 2021 the SF mantra of being against everything will be somewhat irrelevant.
As for Stormont  - are Senior " Security" elements trying to get Unionists to pull the plug?
Don't be so quick to dismiss the shinners in the south, five more years of decontamination and even with 15 or 20 TD's someone is likely to need them to form a government. I'm not so sure that recovery is as strong anywhere in Europe as you think either. Russia and China have the potential to plunge the global economy further into crisis at any time. As for the security elements, I don't know the arrest of Storey looked foolish and SF where very sure he would be released.

Keyser soze

Looks like there isn't much hope of these two parties working together again.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-34473477

The barely concealed mask slips bigtime, the vitriol with which he was saying this was very telling.