County Manager Merry go round

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AustinPowers

Quote from: Armagh18 on January 09, 2025, 04:34:26 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on January 09, 2025, 04:00:28 PMHas the email been published?

I am genuionely asking here but from the odd bit I have seen, what grounds could Gallagher have to sue? The allegations were enough to bar him from the GAA.

Like you can't say loss of earnings. It's not a career in the strictest sense. If Burns didn't tell them not to hire him, then he is not stopping Naas from going ahead as planned.


Haven't seen it, but apparently it was more a case of lads you should maybe think twice here about appointing him rather than saying lads don't appoint him.

Slippery slope imo, given that the police/pps haven't taken it any further then I don't think he should be getting kicked out of the GAA for good.

Where do we draw the line here as it is a slippery slope. If he was Joe Bloggs who had been accused of the same thing and a club tried to appoint him, would there be GAA top brass involvement? Does it only apply to high profile men?

What happens down the line if a woman is accused of domestic violence against a man?

All good points  especially that

Surely the fact that  Gallagher hasn't been convicted of anything counts for something?

Norm-Peterson

I never knew Rory Gallagher did co commentary with the BBC. I was watching a dvd of Derry Donegal 2008 and he was doing co commentary with Mark Sidebottom.

p3427977

Quote from: Norm-Peterson on January 09, 2025, 10:57:58 PMI never knew Rory Gallagher did co commentary with the BBC. I was watching a dvd of Derry Donegal 2008 and he was doing co commentary with Mark Sidebottom.
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trileacman

Quote from: AustinPowers on January 09, 2025, 07:05:26 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 09, 2025, 04:34:26 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on January 09, 2025, 04:00:28 PMHas the email been published?

I am genuionely asking here but from the odd bit I have seen, what grounds could Gallagher have to sue? The allegations were enough to bar him from the GAA.

Like you can't say loss of earnings. It's not a career in the strictest sense. If Burns didn't tell them not to hire him, then he is not stopping Naas from going ahead as planned.


Haven't seen it, but apparently it was more a case of lads you should maybe think twice here about appointing him rather than saying lads don't appoint him.

Slippery slope imo, given that the police/pps haven't taken it any further then I don't think he should be getting kicked out of the GAA for good.

Where do we draw the line here as it is a slippery slope. If he was Joe Bloggs who had been accused of the same thing and a club tried to appoint him, would there be GAA top brass involvement? Does it only apply to high profile men?

What happens down the line if a woman is accused of domestic violence against a man?

All good points  especially that

Surely the fact that  Gallagher hasn't been convicted of anything counts for something?

Odd precedent for the President of the GAA to set. There is an Armagh player in the exact same position as Gallagher. Will the President be intervening via email to ensure he can't play with his club this year?
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armaghniac

Quote from: trileacman on January 10, 2025, 12:29:12 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 09, 2025, 07:05:26 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 09, 2025, 04:34:26 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on January 09, 2025, 04:00:28 PMHas the email been published?

I am genuionely asking here but from the odd bit I have seen, what grounds could Gallagher have to sue? The allegations were enough to bar him from the GAA.

Like you can't say loss of earnings. It's not a career in the strictest sense. If Burns didn't tell them not to hire him, then he is not stopping Naas from going ahead as planned.


Haven't seen it, but apparently it was more a case of lads you should maybe think twice here about appointing him rather than saying lads don't appoint him.

Slippery slope imo, given that the police/pps haven't taken it any further then I don't think he should be getting kicked out of the GAA for good.

Where do we draw the line here as it is a slippery slope. If he was Joe Bloggs who had been accused of the same thing and a club tried to appoint him, would there be GAA top brass involvement? Does it only apply to high profile men?

What happens down the line if a woman is accused of domestic violence against a man?

All good points  especially that

Surely the fact that  Gallagher hasn't been convicted of anything counts for something?

Odd precedent for the President of the GAA to set. There is an Armagh player in the exact same position as Gallagher. Will the President be intervening via email to ensure he can't play with his club this year?

 We don't know exactly what happened in Miami but it was a single incident with no witnesses, Gallagher seems to have been ongoing to some extent. However, other people in the GAA have actually been convicted of assault, drink driving etc, but it seems that these things are do not require action. That is the problem, where do you draw the line?
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trileacman

The incident in Miami is a serious allegation and there are allegedly plenty of witnesses to the aftermath. I'm no friend of Gallagher's but Burns has opened up a can of worms here. If pressed by an journalist why he intervened in Gallagher's case and not in the Armagh one what is his answer going to be?
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5times5times

Quote from: trileacman on January 10, 2025, 12:57:27 PMThe incident in Miami is a serious allegation and there are allegedly plenty of witnesses to the aftermath. I'm no friend of Gallagher's but Burns has opened up a can of worms here. If pressed by an journalist why he intervened in Gallagher's case and not in the Armagh one what is his answer going to be?

Maybe because one is a current live police investigation case?

Armagh18

Quote from: trileacman on January 10, 2025, 12:57:27 PMThe incident in Miami is a serious allegation and there are allegedly plenty of witnesses to the aftermath. I'm no friend of Gallagher's but Burns has opened up a can of worms here. If pressed by an journalist why he intervened in Gallagher's case and not in the Armagh one what is his answer going to be?
Action was taken by the county in that case and the person is off the panel and obviously it's being investigated.

 Had heard the whole thing was dropped but that's definitely not confirmed or anything, just a rumour.

Armagh18

Quote from: armaghniac on January 10, 2025, 12:51:25 PM
Quote from: trileacman on January 10, 2025, 12:29:12 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 09, 2025, 07:05:26 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 09, 2025, 04:34:26 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on January 09, 2025, 04:00:28 PMHas the email been published?

I am genuionely asking here but from the odd bit I have seen, what grounds could Gallagher have to sue? The allegations were enough to bar him from the GAA.

Like you can't say loss of earnings. It's not a career in the strictest sense. If Burns didn't tell them not to hire him, then he is not stopping Naas from going ahead as planned.


Haven't seen it, but apparently it was more a case of lads you should maybe think twice here about appointing him rather than saying lads don't appoint him.

Slippery slope imo, given that the police/pps haven't taken it any further then I don't think he should be getting kicked out of the GAA for good.

Where do we draw the line here as it is a slippery slope. If he was Joe Bloggs who had been accused of the same thing and a club tried to appoint him, would there be GAA top brass involvement? Does it only apply to high profile men?

What happens down the line if a woman is accused of domestic violence against a man?

All good points  especially that

Surely the fact that  Gallagher hasn't been convicted of anything counts for something?

Odd precedent for the President of the GAA to set. There is an Armagh player in the exact same position as Gallagher. Will the President be intervening via email to ensure he can't play with his club this year?

 We don't know exactly what happened in Miami but it was a single incident with no witnesses, Gallagher seems to have been ongoing to some extent. However, other people in the GAA have actually been convicted of assault, drink driving etc, but it seems that these things are do not require action. That is the problem, where do you draw the line?
Exactly. Also think there is a difference between club and county level, county players/management are more high profile and rightly are wrongly are held up as role models for younger people.

Goals_Will_Come

Rumours have Rory Gallagher heading to Kilcoo. They will take no heed to a Jarlath Burns intervention.

thebigfullforward

Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 23, 2025, 11:29:10 AMRumours have Rory Gallagher heading to Kilcoo. They will take no heed to a Jarlath Burns intervention.
Is Lacey stepping away? Would have thought he'd give it another year. Weren't far off Ulster considering they had a man sent off and players not fully fit

Brendan

Not like their reputation can get any worse so I suppose its a good fit

Armagh18

Quote from: thebigfullforward on January 23, 2025, 11:34:00 AM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 23, 2025, 11:29:10 AMRumours have Rory Gallagher heading to Kilcoo. They will take no heed to a Jarlath Burns intervention.
Is Lacey stepping away? Would have thought he'd give it another year. Weren't far off Ulster considering they had a man sent off and players not fully fit
Maybe Gallagher only in as a coach.

They'll push for an All Ireland with him in charge. Kilcoo will tell Jarlath where to stick his email.

Truthsayer

Quote from: Armagh18 on January 23, 2025, 01:58:19 PM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on January 23, 2025, 11:34:00 AM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 23, 2025, 11:29:10 AMRumours have Rory Gallagher heading to Kilcoo. They will take no heed to a Jarlath Burns intervention.
Is Lacey stepping away? Would have thought he'd give it another year. Weren't far off Ulster considering they had a man sent off and players not fully fit
Maybe Gallagher only in as a coach.

They'll push for an All Ireland with him in charge. Kilcoo will tell Jarlath where to stick his email.
I'd say that's the end of Jarlath's emailing!

marty34

Quote from: Truthsayer on January 23, 2025, 02:02:19 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 23, 2025, 01:58:19 PM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on January 23, 2025, 11:34:00 AM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 23, 2025, 11:29:10 AMRumours have Rory Gallagher heading to Kilcoo. They will take no heed to a Jarlath Burns intervention.
Is Lacey stepping away? Would have thought he'd give it another year. Weren't far off Ulster considering they had a man sent off and players not fully fit
Maybe Gallagher only in as a coach.

They'll push for an All Ireland with him in charge. Kilcoo will tell Jarlath where to stick his email.
I'd say that's the end of Jarlath's emailing!

If true, it'll make look JB very foolish indeed.