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Re: County Manager Merry go round
« Reply #450 on: October 25, 2017, 03:33:10 PM »
Gavin actually won 3 All Ireland U21's. Great example of inexperienced at intercounty level there.  ::)

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« Reply #451 on: October 25, 2017, 03:35:57 PM »
Was Jim Gavin high risk when he took over Dublin?  No senior county management experience?

Havenít most successful county managers had the most success in their first manager Job?

What county manager in the last 20 years has won an All-Ireland as a manager for a second time?  Jack Oíconnor (And Iím not even sure about that).

Way too much crap and talk about former experience imo.  As I said earlier, heís hungry, the back room team (if confirmed) looks good, we have a decent squad and Iím optimistic about this...

Good luck Cathal
Wow, just wow. Your logic is so far off the scale I don't know where to start. You honestly believe mentioning  his lack of intercounty experience is a load of crap.

Compare him to Holmes/Connelly, FOD etc... why don't some Sligo people get it that we needed experience, we've failed with the 1st timers, its not a successful approach but we keep doing it.

Jim Gavin is a terrible example, u21 winner, AI winning player etc... this guy is coming from Truagh Gaels to Sligo. We could get lucky and he's great but he could be a disaster like Jordan/Carew et... Good luck to him.

Time to face the facts, no matter who is appointed [inert name of Division 3/4 county] they will not be winning a provincial much less an AI title in the near future. [insert name of Division 2 county] will have some chance of winning a provincial title but only a slight chance of making the Super 8 competition especially after it has run for a couple of years.

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Re: County Manager Merry go round
« Reply #452 on: October 25, 2017, 03:52:00 PM »
Was Jim Gavin high risk when he took over Dublin?  No senior county management experience?

Havenít most successful county managers had the most success in their first manager Job?

What county manager in the last 20 years has won an All-Ireland as a manager for a second time?  Jack Oíconnor (And Iím not even sure about that).

Way too much crap and talk about former experience imo.  As I said earlier, heís hungry, the back room team (if confirmed) looks good, we have a decent squad and Iím optimistic about this...

Good luck Cathal
Wow, just wow. Your logic is so far off the scale I don't know where to start. You honestly believe mentioning  his lack of intercounty experience is a load of crap.

Compare him to Holmes/Connelly, FOD etc... why don't some Sligo people get it that we needed experience, we've failed with the 1st timers, its not a successful approach but we keep doing it.

Jim Gavin is a terrible example, u21 winner, AI winning player etc... this guy is coming from Truagh Gaels to Sligo. We could get lucky and he's great but he could be a disaster like Jordan/Carew et... Good luck to him.

Time to face the facts, no matter who is appointed [inert name of Division 3/4 county] they will not be winning a provincial much less an AI title in the near future. [insert name of Division 2 county] will have some chance of winning a provincial title but only a slight chance of making the Super 8 competition especially after it has run for a couple of years.


What's your point though? What you're saying is almost irrelevant.

All we want is to maximise our resources and have as close to the best Sligo team we can possibly have. Who knows where that would take us? Are we not right to hope for this or should we just give up? For the first time in a long while we've been reasonably competitive for a few consecutive years at minor and U21 and we're just hoping we can harness these good lads and give them a platform to excel. Perhaps this is a masterstroke appointment and hopefully it is. Legitimate expression of concerns are not to be feared or resented. We all want this to work. If we're at the stage where we're not allowed to express an independent view then that's a sad a serious situation I feel.

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« Reply #453 on: October 25, 2017, 04:00:11 PM »
I honestly think if Sligo werenít penny pinching they could have got someone like FOD. In many ways the Sligo job suits him better than the Roscommon job given heís living in Boyle, whereas heíd be regularly traveling to AIT for training when he was managing Roscommon.

Usually when youíve got a candidate who hears you out and is freely available it ends up being a case of the CB being unwilling to back an ambitious plan, or not being willing to cede the control needed to run a county team effectively.

Sligo is nearly exactly the same size as Roscommon. 22 Connachts to 3. Structurally itís always been the same old story north of Ballagh.

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« Reply #454 on: October 25, 2017, 04:27:06 PM »
O'Donnell was a poxed lucky manager surrounded by yes men......

dont think Sligo missed anything there

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« Reply #455 on: October 25, 2017, 04:28:03 PM »
O'Donnell was a poxed lucky manager surrounded by yes men......

dont think Sligo missed anything there

:o

FOD doesnít need me to defend him. Only an eejit would attack him like you just have.

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« Reply #456 on: October 25, 2017, 04:46:05 PM »
O'Donnell was a poxed lucky manager surrounded by yes men......

dont think Sligo missed anything there

:o

FOD doesnít need me to defend him. Only an eejit would attack him like you just have.

2010 was a lucky win, tactically lost 2011. didnt achieve anything further at senior club or intercounty level........

an excellent underage coach admittedly

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« Reply #457 on: October 25, 2017, 06:18:49 PM »
Was Jim Gavin high risk when he took over Dublin?  No senior county management experience?

Havenít most successful county managers had the most success in their first manager Job?

What county manager in the last 20 years has won an All-Ireland as a manager for a second time?  Jack Oíconnor (And Iím not even sure about that).

Way too much crap and talk about former experience imo.  As I said earlier, heís hungry, the back room team (if confirmed) looks good, we have a decent squad and Iím optimistic about this...

Good luck Cathal
Wow, just wow. Your logic is so far off the scale I don't know where to start. You honestly believe mentioning  his lack of intercounty experience is a load of crap.

Compare him to Holmes/Connelly, FOD etc... why don't some Sligo people get it that we needed experience, we've failed with the 1st timers, its not a successful approach but we keep doing it.

Jim Gavin is a terrible example, u21 winner, AI winning player etc... this guy is coming from Truagh Gaels to Sligo. We could get lucky and he's great but he could be a disaster like Jordan/Carew et... Good luck to him.

Time to face the facts, no matter who is appointed [inert name of Division 3/4 county] they will not be winning a provincial much less an AI title in the near future. [insert name of Division 2 county] will have some chance of winning a provincial title but only a slight chance of making the Super 8 competition especially after it has run for a couple of years.

Malachy O'Rourke won Ulster with Monaghan in his first year with them and they played their league football in Div 3 that spring.

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« Reply #458 on: October 25, 2017, 07:06:20 PM »
My point is that most all-Irelandís or provincials have been won with managers on their first assignment.  I know Gavin had u21 experience but no senior inter-county.  Same applies to Rochford in Mayo, McStay in Ross, and most other counties.
We had a former county manager who had stints with other counties and ye were giving out about him too. 

Give the guy a chance, he has a decent resume, heís well liked apparently, good backroom team and he is out to prove himself, which can only be good if channeled properly.

Time will tell, but I think we might have picked a good one here..
I used to be indecisive but now I'm not too sure.

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« Reply #459 on: October 25, 2017, 07:08:02 PM »
My point is that most all-Irelandís or provincials have been won with managers on their first assignment.  I know Gavin had u21 experience but no senior inter-county.  Same applies to Rochford in Mayo, McStay in Ross, and most other counties.
We had a former county manager who had stints with other counties and ye were giving out about him too. 

Give the guy a chance, he has a decent resume, heís well liked apparently, good backroom team and he is out to prove himself, which can only be good if channeled properly.

Time will tell, but I think we might have picked a good one here..

He's good enough for the Sligo seniors but not a Tyrone academy team..?

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Re: County Manager Merry go round
« Reply #460 on: October 25, 2017, 07:14:47 PM »
If not in with Mickey Hsrte he doesn't get s  look in with any Tyrone team

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« Reply #461 on: October 25, 2017, 07:15:32 PM »
My point is that most all-Irelandís or provincials have been won with managers on their first assignment.  I know Gavin had u21 experience but no senior inter-county.  Same applies to Rochford in Mayo, McStay in Ross, and most other counties.
We had a former county manager who had stints with other counties and ye were giving out about him too. 

Give the guy a chance, he has a decent resume, heís well liked apparently, good backroom team and he is out to prove himself, which can only be good if channeled properly.

Time will tell, but I think we might have picked a good one here..

John OíMahoney the only All-Ireland winner in recent times who had prior intercounty management with another county? Canít think of others.
More at provincial. Micko, Paidi, Mickey Moran, OíRourke.
I guess the successful counties donít go outside for their managers.

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Re: County Manager Merry go round
« Reply #462 on: October 25, 2017, 07:49:28 PM »
My point is that most all-Irelandís or provincials have been won with managers on their first assignment.  I know Gavin had u21 experience but no senior inter-county.  Same applies to Rochford in Mayo, McStay in Ross, and most other counties.
We had a former county manager who had stints with other counties and ye were giving out about him too. 

Give the guy a chance, he has a decent resume, heís well liked apparently, good backroom team and he is out to prove himself, which can only be good if channeled properly.

Time will tell, but I think we might have picked a good one here..
Explain to me how we are not giving him a chance? Explain to how we are giving out about him?

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« Reply #463 on: October 25, 2017, 10:30:16 PM »
Rochford given a 2 year extension to his deal tonight - until 2020. Backroom team not confirmed yet though. Hopefully no major changes there either.

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« Reply #464 on: October 25, 2017, 10:34:48 PM »
Rochford given a 2 year extension to his deal tonight - until 2020. Backroom team not confirmed yet though. Hopefully no major changes there either.
Be interesting to see if he is still Mayo manager by 2020.