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Re: County Manager Merry go round
« Reply #1185 on: September 03, 2019, 07:39:13 PM »
Would Malachy O'Rourke be an option for Galway? If Rochford is staying on with Donegal i presume the main options will be P Joyce,J Divilly and K O'Brien.


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« Reply #1186 on: September 03, 2019, 09:11:37 PM »
Rory has been confirmed.
Wanted.  Forwards to take frees.
Not fussy.  Any sort of ability will be considered

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« Reply #1187 on: September 03, 2019, 10:04:52 PM »
Galway are out of the Championship 2 months. Walsh could have confirmed his exit a bit earlier to give his successor more time to look at the Club championship

Would the Corofin manager be interested, Kevin O Brien?

Probably initially intended to stay on. However it appears that the board were sounding out likes of Gallagher and O Rourke. That made his position untenable.
Strange really because it board hardly prepared to pay what those outsiders would command.

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« Reply #1188 on: September 03, 2019, 10:11:59 PM »
Galway are out of the Championship 2 months. Walsh could have confirmed his exit a bit earlier to give his successor more time to look at the Club championship

Would the Corofin manager be interested, Kevin O Brien?

Probably initially intended to stay on. However it appears that the board were sounding out likes of Gallagher and O Rourke. That made his position untenable.
Strange really because it board hardly prepared to pay what those outsiders would command.

Don't think neither was on Galway's radar. Rochford and Joyce would be but one looks to be staying with Donegal and other wants to stay with U20s a little longer for more management experience it seems.
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« Reply #1189 on: September 03, 2019, 11:49:20 PM »
Was Donnelly to Ulster rugby not true, or will he be doing both?

Both

That's very interesting. . . has there been a fall out there?? Why would he abandon Tyrone and head to Monaghan?!!

It's probably a consultancy role, Tyrone was more hands on.
Do you think he'd let his name be put down as the fitness coach for the Monaghan team and do it by Skype? :D He has a reputation and a sense of duty to uphold.
There is little doubt he will be able to attend enough of the training sessions to do his job properly, he'll monitor the players fitness and nutrition levels directly and from a distance, maybe he'll even be able to attend the odd match.
Probably you could be  right about Tyrone being more demanding, Monaghan may be prepared to be more flexible with his schedule and his direct committment but could Tyrone not have facilitated him in the same way?

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« Reply #1190 on: September 04, 2019, 10:59:48 AM »
Seen this pointed out elsewhere and I hadn't noticed the not so subtle edit that the county board made to the actual full statement from Kevin Walsh and the version that was posted on Galwaygaa.ie https://www.galwaygaa.ie/news/124-football/2200-press-release-galway-senior-football-management

Key paragraph that they left out:
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I emphatically believe that there are great things to come for Galway football. Having had the opportunity to work with professionals at the top of their field over the last number of years, I would like to see the recommendations in our reports to the County Board which included facilities and equipment, operations, alignment and development of underage teams through to senior level, finance, competition structures, player development and welfare, medical screening and deep level coaching continue to be implemented in the interests of Galway football going forward.

All the things that are being done to the highest levels now in the likes of Kerry and Dublin. All the things that cost money, require clear vision, good planning and real expertise. Funny that was what they choose to excise from KW's full statement.


He's there 5 years. Did he not think of putting these in place until he was leaving? Or discuss with the county board during his 5 years?

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« Reply #1191 on: September 04, 2019, 11:08:44 AM »
Was Donnelly to Ulster rugby not true, or will he be doing both?

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That's very interesting. . . has there been a fall out there?? Why would he abandon Tyrone and head to Monaghan?!!

It's probably a consultancy role, Tyrone was more hands on.
Do you think he'd let his name be put down as the fitness coach for the Monaghan team and do it by Skype? :D He has a reputation and a sense of duty to uphold.
There is little doubt he will be able to attend enough of the training sessions to do his job properly, he'll monitor the players fitness and nutrition levels directly and from a distance, maybe he'll even be able to attend the odd match.
Probably you could be  right about Tyrone being more demanding, Monaghan may be prepared to be more flexible with his schedule and his direct committment but could Tyrone not have facilitated him in the same way?

How many hours per week do you think a job with Ulster Academy will entail? Donnelly will have plenty of free time. It's a permanent role dealing with young men 16-20 year old, they don't even need that much S+C because their bodies are still developing. He won't be near the 'full timers'.

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« Reply #1192 on: September 04, 2019, 12:24:25 PM »
Seen this pointed out elsewhere and I hadn't noticed the not so subtle edit that the county board made to the actual full statement from Kevin Walsh and the version that was posted on Galwaygaa.ie https://www.galwaygaa.ie/news/124-football/2200-press-release-galway-senior-football-management

Key paragraph that they left out:
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I emphatically believe that there are great things to come for Galway football. Having had the opportunity to work with professionals at the top of their field over the last number of years, I would like to see the recommendations in our reports to the County Board which included facilities and equipment, operations, alignment and development of underage teams through to senior level, finance, competition structures, player development and welfare, medical screening and deep level coaching continue to be implemented in the interests of Galway football going forward.

All the things that are being done to the highest levels now in the likes of Kerry and Dublin. All the things that cost money, require clear vision, good planning and real expertise. Funny that was what they choose to excise from KW's full statement.


He's there 5 years. Did he not think of putting these in place until he was leaving? Or discuss with the county board during his 5 years?

Only a guess on my part but far more likely that these things were asked for and support was not provided to put in place, it does mention reports so the assumption has to be that this is not something that is just being landed into them while he is heading out the door. I realise that you don't rate KW as a manager at all but I think we need to separate who the manager is and his relative merits/demerits out from the more longer term, systemic issues raised in that particular section of his statement, and why the Galway County board would, farcically, edit that out from the statement as published on the official Galway county GAA website. It has since been changed on the website again to reflect the original statement in full.

Donoghue seems to have left the hurling position over funding issues. The same hurling manager who won Galway their first AI in 30 years wasn't officially thanked by the county board for 8 days after he left, a bizarre situation in any instance.
And lets be very clear here, whatever valid gripes Donoghue had with the CB with respect to the hurlers, the footballers are allegedly very much the poor relation, it's a hurling orientated county board. It's the clowns on the hurling side that have put the Mountain South albatross on Galway. The footballers already had Loughgeorge built, the hurlers had nothing, now Loughgeorge is shared between all teams and it's not big enough for that.

On the GBFM interview yesterday morning with Galway chairman Pat Kearney, a gentle enough question was put to him about the part quoted above around support structures and finance, his response was not convincing in the slightest.
I'm sure that people closer to the ground in Galway will have a much better idea of the real issues than myself but certainly there's plenty of rumours about how Galway GAA has been run in the recent past that couldn't be posted up here for fear of litigation. Where is the official GAA follow up to all the financial irregularities in Galway that came to the surface last year? Seems to have been all just swept under the carpet. How did Cork GAA make a very substantial profit when they hosted Ed Sheeran gigs in PUC and yet Galway GAA seemed to have only made a pittance in comparison from the same musician when he played two sold out shows in Pearse Stadium? Where did the money all go?
Galway GAA has sizeable debt, how many of the same people involved in creating this debt through bad judgement are still involved and if so, on what possible basis?

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« Reply #1193 on: September 04, 2019, 12:44:38 PM »
Rory has been confirmed.

Poor Derry - they are fcuked now.

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« Reply #1194 on: September 06, 2019, 10:18:28 PM »
From Galway Bay FM

Betting this evening has been suspended on Pádraig Joyce becoming the next senior Galway football manager. We understand a meeting of the players and Galway GAA officials is set to take place tomorrow. More to follow.

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« Reply #1195 on: September 06, 2019, 11:23:28 PM »
Hmmmmm....
Meanwhile Ros CB have advertised for applicants for the U20 position.
1 BIG CUP and 1 Cupeen so far....

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« Reply #1196 on: September 06, 2019, 11:44:14 PM »
Heard a good one tonight about Rory Gallagher.

He has played for 4 different clubs in Ireland and 3 in USA and has played for 2 different counties also. He has coached 10+ different clubs, mostly short term and Derry is his 3rd different county to manage in space of 3yrs.

Has there ever been a greater journey man in the history of the GAA!

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« Reply #1197 on: September 07, 2019, 12:54:24 PM »
Heard a good one tonight about Rory Gallagher.

He has played for 4 different clubs in Ireland and 3 in USA and has played for 2 different counties also. He has coached 10+ different clubs, mostly short term and Derry is his 3rd different county to manage in space of 3yrs.

Has there ever been a greater journey man in the history of the GAA!

He fairly hoors himself about

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« Reply #1198 on: September 07, 2019, 01:04:47 PM »
Heard a good one tonight about Rory Gallagher.

He has played for 4 different clubs in Ireland and 3 in USA and has played for 2 different counties also. He has coached 10+ different clubs, mostly short term and Derry is his 3rd different county to manage in space of 3yrs.

Has there ever been a greater journey man in the history of the GAA!
A certain oul lad in Kerry got about a bit.
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« Reply #1199 on: September 07, 2019, 01:28:11 PM »
Heard a good one tonight about Rory Gallagher.

He has played for 4 different clubs in Ireland and 3 in USA and has played for 2 different counties also. He has coached 10+ different clubs, mostly short term and Derry is his 3rd different county to manage in space of 3yrs.

Has there ever been a greater journey man in the history of the GAA!

Who were the 4 clubs?
Fantasy Rugby World Cup Champion 2011,
Fantasy 6 Nations Champion 2014