Final 12 teams left in the football championship RANKED

[Maroon Manc]

The DOnegal game was Monaghans All Ireland Final. Agree with their ranking tbh

Naturally when a team gets beat by another team in their only meeting of the championship it makes sense to rank the beaten time higher.

[rosnarun]

The DOnegal game was Monaghans All Ireland Final. Agree with their ranking tbh

Naturally when a team gets beat by another team in their only meeting of the championship it makes sense to rank the beaten time higher.

If Monaghan and donegal were playing against each other in the next round , would you put money on monaghan ? your own money?

[From the Bunker]

He begins in looking at Mayo - 'Mayo have shown a ruthless streak we haven't seen before '. Where was he for our championship games in 2013? Heard it all before blah de blah!

[Canalman]

Have said it before ,Mayo will win Sam imo anyway when least expected and definitely under the radar. All was going well for them this year until that hiding in CF which imo will serve them no good. A scuttery 4 point win was what was needed.

Think 2012 in particular was a glorious chance for them.

[Maroon Manc]

The DOnegal game was Monaghans All Ireland Final. Agree with their ranking tbh

Naturally when a team gets beat by another team in their only meeting of the championship it makes sense to rank the beaten time higher.

If Monaghan and donegal were playing against each other in the next round , would you put money on monaghan ? your own money?

I would given Donegal would have 1 weeks rest to prepare for the game.

They can't meet anyway, I can only base it on what I've seen so far and the upcoming fixtures. If Donegal do beat Galway they'll have a week to prepare for Mayo, I just can't see them beating Mayo given the variables. Should in the event of Tyrone beat Monaghan with only a weeks preparation then rightly so they deserve to be ranked higher than Monaghan.

[J70]

I think this rank order thing is spot on except for the Ulster teams in wrong order. Monaghan ahead of Tyrone and Donegal. If Tyrone and Donegal were to play again there'd be nothing between them.

Sam will end up in Kerry, Dublin or Mayo... or Sligo 

Are Tyrone not ranked ahead of Donegal based on the presumed pathway to the AI final?

Should we get past Galway, beating Mayo AND Dublin is one hell of a tall order!

I don't think Tyrone being Monaghan's bogey team means a whole lot though. Or the "wide open spaces of Croke Park". How much difference is there between Clones and Croke Park in terms of pitch size?

[Schkite]

Ah, the "wide open spaces of Croke Park" argument used beautifully to write off Monaghan's chances. Also, having a class forward appears to be a negative! Who writes this shite?

This "wide open" bullshit about Croke Park is a long debunked theory when you compare the dimensions of Croker with Clones. Agreed about the comment on McManus. There appears to be this idea that just because we have a brilliant forward, that none of our other players could kick snow off a rope. Obviously Conor is our star man and when he performs we will do well, but plenty of players are chipping in with scores these days and there's been big games in the last couple of years where he was been tied up but others have stepped up to win the game. You'd swear it was a Declan Browne in Tipp situation going by some people.

If Monaghan and donegal were playing against each other in the next round , would you put money on monaghan ? your own money?

I'm sure you'd have said the same this time last week.

I don't think Tyrone being Monaghan's bogey team means a whole lot though.

Yeah I don't think that's a factor at all, sure we won last year to get that monkey off our backs. And there'd be the added motivation of reversing the result of two years ago also. Not being on the beer for a week should help too.

[UpMeeyo]

beanbagsports obviously dont believe in their own rankings when Monaghan are 12/1 to win the all Ireland vs tyrones 20/1

https://beanbagsports.com/#sportsbook/47/104/210334535

Speaking of odds, I can't understand why Dublin would be evens and Kerry nearly 4/1 considering Kerry have a far easier route to the final.

[SouthDublinBro]

1. Dublin
2. Kerry
3. Mayo
4. Cork
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5. Donegal
6. Tyrone

No other team worth mentioning.

[rrhf]

Monaghan are Ulster champions and deservedly so.  I expect them to get as far as Kerry in the semi final to be honest.  I also feel Donegal will kick again.
Dubs are favourites as this is July yet and they have beat all in front of them well.  I fancy Kerry to play them in the all ireland final.  Id seriously be backing Mayo but for them keeping O Shea on the field after half time.  Fitzmaurice kept their star caged last year until he absolutely had to throw him in and the rest is history.   Dont show your entire hand in a Connaght final that you were always going to win - Maybe they felt they had to prove something to themselves but the rest of Ireland know Mayo are a serious outfit.    Dubs used to suffer greatly for showing their hand too early.  Can they escape the clamp defence of a Donegal or Kerry time will tell. They can certainly compete with Mayo on the scoring front. 
Defensive teams of note left: Tyrone/Kerry/Monaghan/Dublin/ Donegal
Attacking teams of note left: Kerry/Dublin/Mayo / Cork 
Others: Sligo/Kildare/Fermanagh/ Westmeath/ Galway
Why go past Kerry or the dubs with your tenner...     

[From the Bunker]

Monaghan are Ulster champions and deservedly so.  I expect them to get as far as Kerry in the semi final to be honest.  I also feel Donegal will kick again.
Dubs are favourites as this is July yet and they have beat all in front of them well.  I fancy Kerry to play them in the all ireland final.  Id seriously be backing Mayo but for them keeping O Shea on the field after half time. Fitzmaurice kept their star caged last year until he absolutely had to throw him in and the rest is history.   Dont show your entire hand in a Connaght final that you were always going to win - Maybe they felt they had to prove something to themselves but the rest of Ireland know Mayo are a serious outfit.    Dubs used to suffer greatly for showing their hand too early.  Can they escape the clamp defence of a Donegal or Kerry time will tell. They can certainly compete with Mayo on the scoring front. 
Defensive teams of note left: Tyrone/Kerry/Monaghan/Dublin/ Donegal
Attacking teams of note left: Kerry/Dublin/Mayo / Cork 
Others: Sligo/Kildare/Fermanagh/ Westmeath/ Galway
Why go past Kerry or the dubs with your tenner...   

Donaghy playing full forward was no secret. If you believe that hiding him with 10 minutes to go in the drawn game was a plan that Kerry had you are a real romantic. The truth was Kerry were down to the wire as to how to get back into the game and Donaghy was a desperation substitution. It worked and Fitzmaurice fell on an option he thought was gone by accident.

[Syferus]

Monaghan are Ulster champions and deservedly so.  I expect them to get as far as Kerry in the semi final to be honest.  I also feel Donegal will kick again.
Dubs are favourites as this is July yet and they have beat all in front of them well.  I fancy Kerry to play them in the all ireland final.  Id seriously be backing Mayo but for them keeping O Shea on the field after half time. Fitzmaurice kept their star caged last year until he absolutely had to throw him in and the rest is history.   Dont show your entire hand in a Connaght final that you were always going to win - Maybe they felt they had to prove something to themselves but the rest of Ireland know Mayo are a serious outfit.    Dubs used to suffer greatly for showing their hand too early.  Can they escape the clamp defence of a Donegal or Kerry time will tell. They can certainly compete with Mayo on the scoring front. 
Defensive teams of note left: Tyrone/Kerry/Monaghan/Dublin/ Donegal
Attacking teams of note left: Kerry/Dublin/Mayo / Cork 
Others: Sligo/Kildare/Fermanagh/ Westmeath/ Galway
Why go past Kerry or the dubs with your tenner...   

Donaghy playing full forward was no secret. If you believe that hiding him with 10 minutes to go in the drawn game was a plan that Kerry had you are a real romantic. The truth was Kerry were down to the wire as to how to get back into the game and Donaghy was a desperation substitution. It worked and Fitzmaurice fell on an option he thought was gone by accident.

He was on the bench because his form was non-existent for over two years. Can't believe anyone couldn't see that much.

[Maguire01]

The DOnegal game was Monaghans All Ireland Final. Agree with their ranking tbh

Naturally when a team gets beat by another team in their only meeting of the championship it makes sense to rank the beaten time higher.

If Monaghan and donegal were playing against each other in the next round , would you put money on monaghan ? your own money?

Why not? We've beaten them twice in the Championship and twice in the league over the past three years (one of those league games being the D2 final in Croke Park).

[Maguire01]

The DOnegal game was Monaghans All Ireland Final. Agree with their ranking tbh

Naturally when a team gets beat by another team in their only meeting of the championship it makes sense to rank the beaten time higher.

To be fair, it's ranking their chances if winning the All Ireland, so you have to consider who each team is likely to meet to make it to the final, as well as past results. Still think this ranking is massively flawed.

[ck]

To those who insist Donegal would beat Monaghan if they play again are talking out of their arses. What are you basing this on? Monaghan beat Donegal regularly and on Sunday were clearly the better team, in fact it was the biggest one point hammering your likely to see.
People focusing in on Donegals wides but it was clearly excellent defending by Monaghan. I don't see Monaghan winning the AI but they'll progress further than Donegal!