Is Cillian O'Connor Mayo's greatest ever?

[highorlow]

Dermot Earley Snr would be my choice if it's a question of a greatest ever player from Mayo. That's a reason why I voted no in the poll.

[sligoman]

James O'Donohoe played very deep in one All Ireland final. O'Connor was deployed as an out and out full forward in two. They are not really comparable.

I think you are taking things too much to heart if you are deeming what I'm saying about O'Connor as bashing. I feel he is overrated and I feel that he has a lot to prove yet, he has plenty of time on his hands to do so.

put down that shovel and step away from the hole

You've managed to get things arseways here as the only one digging the holes for themselves are those who are imagining  O'Connor being bashed, God help us if someone called him rubbish in this thread! Valid points have been raised as to his all round game in line with his reputation. That is not bashing.

You are the one running him down.

Failed to score from play in 2 All Ireland finals.

I don't think O'Connor is as good as made out in some quarters.

Do you think he is Mayo's greatest every player?

Do you think he is one of the top 10 forwards in the game right now?

I don't think he contributes enough from open play, I don't think defenders or managers would worry about him as much from open play as some of the other top forwards in the game.

Mayo fans know exactly how good he is from play. If we could spare him inside, he is by far and away our best passer and he would start every game at 11. He is a fantastic tackler, ask Neil Magee. Has has an unbelievable attitude, which explains his quick returns from bad injury, and scored 6 goals, including 2 hatricks the year he only played 89 minutes.

Incidentally none of his hatricks were from frees.

He won YPOTY twice, top scored in the Championship twice and is a current All-Star.

But in Sligo that would be sh*te.

I fail to see how I am running him down. I haven't said he is a bad player or useless. I said I think he has been overrated. I don't have the stats at hand but I don't think his scoring record from play is too hot for a player of his reputation, there was a post a few pages back that seemed to back that up. I don't think he is particularly quick or a particularly good ball winner or able to get scores out of nothing from play. Having an opinion on O'Connor not being a good a player as some allude to is not bashing him. I don't think O'Connor would make the Dublin or Kerry forward lines if I'm being honest. I don't think he is that good a tackler either, he fouls a lot but he gets away with it. The Cork backroom team brought attention to it last year before the quarter final.

They would, wouldn't they 

Jaysus you have some set on him.
Far from being overrated, this thread shows that a lot of people underrate him. But you re judgement is you re judgement and good luck to ye.

I don't have a set on him, I just happen to think he is overrated. Do you think he is one of the top 10 forwards in the game right now?

I think a lot of Mayo people are getting very sensitive of any sort of critisicm of O'Connor.

[muppet]

Seriously Sligoman, what did he do to you?

You can tell us.....

[westbound]

What I want to know is, who are the two people that voted yes in this poll!!!!!! 

[JoG2]

James O'Donohoe played very deep in one All Ireland final. O'Connor was deployed as an out and out full forward in two. They are not really comparable.

I think you are taking things too much to heart if you are deeming what I'm saying about O'Connor as bashing. I feel he is overrated and I feel that he has a lot to prove yet, he has plenty of time on his hands to do so.

put down that shovel and step away from the hole

You've managed to get things arseways here as the only one digging the holes for themselves are those who are imagining  O'Connor being bashed, God help us if someone called him rubbish in this thread! Valid points have been raised as to his all round game in line with his reputation. That is not bashing.

You are the one running him down.

Failed to score from play in 2 All Ireland finals.

I don't think O'Connor is as good as made out in some quarters.

Do you think he is Mayo's greatest every player?

Do you think he is one of the top 10 forwards in the game right now?

I don't think he contributes enough from open play, I don't think defenders or managers would worry about him as much from open play as some of the other top forwards in the game.

Mayo fans know exactly how good he is from play. If we could spare him inside, he is by far and away our best passer and he would start every game at 11. He is a fantastic tackler, ask Neil Magee. Has has an unbelievable attitude, which explains his quick returns from bad injury, and scored 6 goals, including 2 hatricks the year he only played 89 minutes.

Incidentally none of his hatricks were from frees.

He won YPOTY twice, top scored in the Championship twice and is a current All-Star.

But in Sligo that would be sh*te.

I fail to see how I am running him down. I haven't said he is a bad player or useless. I said I think he has been overrated. I don't have the stats at hand but I don't think his scoring record from play is too hot for a player of his reputation, there was a post a few pages back that seemed to back that up. I don't think he is particularly quick or a particularly good ball winner or able to get scores out of nothing from play. Having an opinion on O'Connor not being a good a player as some allude to is not bashing him. I don't think O'Connor would make the Dublin or Kerry forward lines if I'm being honest. I don't think he is that good a tackler either, he fouls a lot but he gets away with it. The Cork backroom team brought attention to it last year before the quarter final.

They would, wouldn't they 

Jaysus you have some set on him.
Far from being overrated, this thread shows that a lot of people underrate him. But you re judgement is you re judgement and good luck to ye.

I don't have a set on him, I just happen to think he is overrated. Do you think he is one of the top 10 forwards in the game right now?

I think a lot of Mayo people are getting very sensitive of any sort of critisicm of O'Connor.

Do I think you are one of the top 10 broken records in the board? yes

[sligoman]

Seriously Sligoman, what did he do to you?

You can tell us.....

Nothing. 

I just happen to think he's not as good as is made out which seems to be an issue for some.

[muppet]

Seriously Sligoman, what did he do to you?

You can tell us.....

Nothing. 

I just happen to think he's not as good as is made out which seems to be an issue for some.

So you feel the need to go on the internet and pull him down a peg or two?

[AZOffaly]

Dermot Earley Snr would be my choice if it's a question of a greatest ever player from Mayo. That's a reason why I voted no in the poll.

??

Is this a Ballagh thing?

[ballinaman]

Seriously Sligoman, what did he do to you?

You can tell us.....

Nothing. 

I just happen to think he's not as good as is made out which seems to be an issue for some.

I think I can speak for the county as a whole when I say, the day that Cillian makes your top 10 forwards list sligoman, will mean more to us than the day we land Sam.

[muppet]

Dermot Earley Snr would be my choice if it's a question of a greatest ever player from Mayo. That's a reason why I voted no in the poll.

??

Is this a Ballagh thing?

Nope. Dermot was from Castlebar.

[Schkite]

This is becoming one of my favourite threads.

Feckit, is it the greatest ever?

Could yet be.

[AZOffaly]

It's only young yet, give it a chance.

[sligoman]

Seriously Sligoman, what did he do to you?

You can tell us.....

Nothing. 

I just happen to think he's not as good as is made out which seems to be an issue for some.

So you feel the need to go on the internet and pull him down a peg or two?

I didn't say anything of a personal or derogatory nature, just that he is overrated. I didn't start this thread, I just happened to give my two cents on this thread. The question a lot of people should be asking is why are people getting so upset over justified criticism? Why are people trying to censure anyone having a view that O'Connor might not be as good as the reputation he has developed?

[squire_in_navy_slacks]

I see David Brady is on the twitter now, bit of todge measuring with whelo already

https://twitter.com/D9BMayo

[Mano]

Seriously Sligoman, what did he do to you?

You can tell us.....

Nothing. 

I just happen to think he's not as good as is made out which seems to be an issue for some.

So you feel the need to go on the internet and pull him down a peg or two?

I didn't say anything of a personal or derogatory nature, just that he is overrated. I didn't start this thread, I just happened to give my two cents on this thread. The question a lot of people should be asking is why are people getting so upset over justified criticism? Why are people trying to censure anyone having a view that O'Connor might not be as good as the reputation he has developed?

I'd have to disagree with my fellow county man on this one. Mayo would not have got to two All Ireland Finals without O'Connor's input. He is probably behind O'Donoghue, McManus and maybe Brogan in terms of the best scoring forwards in the country. He was quite enough from play against Galway last Sunday but is only returning from a long term injury and I would expect him to get better as the season progresses.