A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.

[Rossfan]

They moan if foreigners aren't working.
They moan twice as much if they are working!

[Snapchap]

If Tommy Robinson was in charge it's still going to be the same...

Either of these things, a UI or the rise in immigration/asylum will have a small bearing on things.

I think social media makes things a lot worse in lots of different ways.

Look after your health and your family.

People coming to these shores will continue, if I grew up in one of those countries I'd be making my way here too, unless governments around the globe make their homelands safe, uncorrupt, fair, democratic, and so on then people will continue to take perilous journeys for a better life. And who can blame them.

Stop problem at source, fix problem at source that'll stop the people coming..

Keep voting in the same government every year and keep getting the same results is what?

Can't say i disagree with any of that. Thank you for coming back with a reasonable reply and not resorting to the cheap lazy labelling such as Far Right, Fascist or Racist. In the main there are very few in those categories in Ireland.

'Thanks for not making cheap and lazy comments', sez the fella that responded to a debate on a border poll with "tHer'LL Be nO iRIsH leFt".

Take your lazy, racist sh!te elsewhere, like a good man.

[Truthsayer]

2%.
but then you have smart comments by lads like you (there will be no Irish left) and the "Swedish" tales saying exactly the same things as the 2%.

2% - that is more than I thought - 80,000! Anyway that's their problem (the 2%). Those, give the people with legitimate concerns a bad name.
Sweden is the failed experiment and we should learn from that. Look at what they got right with letting people in and look at what they got wrong. You have to control and filter immigration and open valve will leave us with a lot of cultural, social and demographic problems.

Explain... because it's lazy soundbites that means nothing without an explanation.

Ah, this is where you try to catch me out and prove I'm a Fascist/Racist/Whatever. I'm sure you're old enough to realise the benefits of immigration and the problems of mass immigration. You don't need some one like me to explain them to you.

So you can't explain what you mean by "open valve will leave us with a lot of cultural, social and demographic problems".?
Give us specific examples of these cultural, social and demographic  problems...
sounds serious so tell us please...

Housing, hospitals, schools, local services all would be under increased strain if there was an increase of mass immigration. A child could have worked that one out.

Not to mention social issues such as integration with local communities etc.

Vague buzzword rhetoric. For example Dungannon is 10% foreign national and as far as I see local community life is not under threat... GAA, soccer club, religious life and other facilities not under threat. Many are contributing to local work force including our health service, schools are thriving and taking great pride in achievement of all their pupils.
You've just made a far right bark with no specific examples... is most used by loyalists.
As you label yourself 'Tyrone' maybe tell us the problems in Dungannon or other towns here from the many migrants have come in... Moygashel under siege? 🤷

You ask for examples then you refute to acknowledge them. An offical Northern Ireland Assembly paper back up my examples so take it up with them-

Noting immigration's benefits, a Northern Ireland Assembly paper five years ago warned that it had created additional pressures on maternity services, healthcare, housing and education", though migrants are "young, male and better educated". https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/dungannon-providing-better-life-for-many-immigrants-1.3160131

Large-scale migration has not delivered significant growth in GDP per capita, and has increased the strain on our capital stock, from roads and GP surgeries to housing. Migrants from the Middle East, North Africa and Turkey aged 25-64 are almost twice as likely to be economically inactive as someone born in the UK- https://cps.org.uk/media/post/2024/mass-migration-not-delivering-promised-economic-benefits-say-jenrick-and-obrien/

Dungannon is a really good example I am glad you brought it up, its actually 35% of the population are foreign nationals, not the 10% you quoted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungannon#:~:text=In%20the%202021%20Census%2C%20Dungannon,more%20than%20one%20national%20identity).

Housing quality and supply is ridiculous in Dungannon with overcrowding in rental housing due to large increase in foregin workers. The town itself has to be one of the worst for

Here if you are happy with the way things are going good for you but dont try and make out there is no downside to mass immigration when there clearly is.

The first article is mostly positive about contribution of migrants... including: "Immigrants have added to the life of Dungannon, says former House of Commons MP Bernadette McAliskey who points out that the 16,000-strong Tyrone town has grown more strongly than anywhere else in Northern Ireland. Immigrants, she says, are not people who come to "steal our jobs, houses, hospital beds and our women".
The second article doesn't refer to Ireland, north or south
And the third is Wikipedia that anyone can post or change. I didn't bother reading it.. not a reliable source 🫣
Probably be best you read the articles before posting them up : )

So you admittedly only pick the positives without acknowledging any of the downside statements

Everyone knows that controlled immigration is a positive, its the mass uncontrolled immigration that is the issue.

https://explore.nisra.gov.uk/area-explorer-2021/N10000904/ shows that 30% of Dungannon is forgein nationals so again you are proven wrong, hopefully you find the census data as reliable source.

I thought it was 10%  so it's 30%. I don't have a problem with that. Is barely a day I'm not in Dungannon.. life is going OK.. schools, churches, sport associations, work places... unless you can enlighten to us to local problems.. apart from lovely Moygashel the bastion of racism and sectarianism..

[armaghniac]

I thought it was 10%  so it's 30%. I don't have a problem with that. Is barely a day I'm not in Dungannon.. life is going OK.. schools, churches, sport associations, work places... unless you can enlighten to us to local problems.. apart from lovely Moygashel the bastion of racism and sectarianism..

Moygashel is simply a district inhabited by unassimilated immigrants.

[Truthsayer]

I thought it was 10%  so it's 30%. I don't have a problem with that. Is barely a day I'm not in Dungannon.. life is going OK.. schools, churches, sport associations, work places... unless you can enlighten to us to local problems.. apart from lovely Moygashel the bastion of racism and sectarianism..

Moygashel is simply a district inhabited by unassimilated immigrants.

Couldn't have put it better myself 

[RedHand88]

Dungannon is doing just fine. I think people come out with this dung and are never in the place to see for themselves.
The schools are good, shops are good, Clarkes and Swifts are flying. Pubs are quiet but that's the same anywhere and certainly not the fault of migrants.
Alot of the local businesses and factories would not be open without them.

[ONARAGGATIP]

Was working there at the weekend in the ponda rossa estate. Scary hole

[Truthsayer]

Dungannon is doing just fine. I think people come out with this dung and are never in the place to see for themselves.
The schools are good, shops are good, Clarkes and Swifts are flying. Pubs are quiet but that's the same anywhere and certainly not the fault of migrants.
Alot of the local businesses and factories would not be open without them.

I live close-by and that's my perception and experience. Often work bout the town and don't feel any tensions or threats. Has its social problems like anywhere else but I don't see that as migrant caused.. many migrants making a great contribution to local sports teams, employments, churches and at school as are indigenous people.

[tyroneStatto]

Was working there at the weekend in the ponda rossa estate. Scary hole

The ponderosa estate has always been a rough spot.

[tyroneStatto]

From the 90's before there were any migrants in the town...

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/dungannon-choosing-between-two-sets-of-hoods/26137397.html

[Milltown Row2]

From the 90's before there were any migrants in the town...

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/dungannon-choosing-between-two-sets-of-hoods/26137397.html

But they are our hoods and we don't want other hoods is the cry

[Deerstalker]

The Romanians seem to be causing a bit of "tension" in Ballymena tonight

[Milltown Row2]

The Romanians seem to be causing a bit of "tension" in Ballymena tonight

Yeah it's a pity they didn't come out and riot after that rape and brutal murder of the girl in Ballymena the other year. But he was a white local..

[Wildweasel74]

There been a few incidents in Ballymena recently,

[Milltown Row2]

I work in Ballymena, it's got plenty of Poles, Ukrainians and Romanians who work the factories

I wouldn't be about the place at night but if we look at the history of the place with regards to Harryville and the nightly bigot campaign at the chapel many years ago I'd say the locals have more incidents to be concerned with than the foreign workers

As I said strange that the white rapists murders ok, those of colour not ok.