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[Eamonnca1]

er...the people with no documentation.

Just checking. I like to do my homework before I pull out the racialist card.

[foxcommander]

er...the people with no documentation.

Just checking. I like to do my homework before I pull out the racialist card.

ffs

[gallsman]

There are a few rules of thumb that rarely fail when it comes to xenophobia, intolerance and racism. One is that it's always the arseholes the country would least miss if they f***ed away off out of it who are first to tell us about the people THEY think the country could do without.

Nail on the head.

[foxcommander]

There are a few rules of thumb that rarely fail when it comes to xenophobia, intolerance and racism. One is that it's always the arseholes the country would least miss if they f***ed away off out of it who are first to tell us about the people THEY think the country could do without.

How you get from "undocumented" to the words you just spouted is beyond me but certainly shows a level of ignorance on your part. Fact of the matter is that whatever race/creed/other the undocumented are they technically shouldn't be in the country. Now shut the hell up with your labelling. It's you who has this on the forefront of your mind and stifle any serious debate on the subject to tackle the issue.

A population of undocumented of close to the size of the town of Navan (10th biggest in Ireland and a meath hole) would be granted status. Last I knew the country was in the shit financially. So the plan would be to do give everyone legal rights to remain and provide them and their families with Healthcare, education, facilities, benefits, housing etc. ?

And you are the boys that can't wait to bring in water taxes for the poorer irish population to pay for stuff. Is this where the money is going to go?
I don't think the country can support the ones they have.

Then there's the influx of a new cheap legal workforce. Fancy losing your jobs to fellas who will work for half the wages? Won't be so smug then.


Visas for those who have jobs the indigenous population cant/wont fill and if they can pay their own way. That's the way it should be done. And just to state I don't support the irish undocumented abroad. If they shouldn't be somewhere then kick them out.

But pull out the race card again Hardly, there's a good lad.

[foxcommander]

er...the people with no documentation.

Just checking. I like to do my homework before I pull out the racialist card.

Hardly beat you to it this time around...but you're good at this game too.

[Eamonnca1]

Why does everybody assume all the undocumented don't work?

[Hardy]

There are a few rules of thumb that rarely fail when it comes to xenophobia, intolerance and racism. One is that it's always the arseholes the country would least miss if they f***ed away off out of it who are first to tell us about the people THEY think the country could do without.

How you get from "undocumented" to the words you just spouted is beyond me but certainly shows a level of ignorance on your part. Fact of the matter is that whatever race/creed/other the undocumented are they technically shouldn't be in the country. Now shut the hell up with your labelling. It's you who has this on the forefront of your mind and stifle any serious debate on the subject to tackle the issue.

A population of undocumented of close to the size of the town of Navan (10th biggest in Ireland and a meath hole) would be granted status. Last I knew the country was in the shit financially. So the plan would be to do give everyone legal rights to remain and provide them and their families with Healthcare, education, facilities, benefits, housing etc. ?

And you are the boys that can't wait to bring in water taxes for the poorer irish population to pay for stuff. Is this where the money is going to go?
I don't think the country can support the ones they have.

Then there's the influx of a new cheap legal workforce. Fancy losing your jobs to fellas who will work for half the wages? Won't be so smug then.


Visas for those who have jobs the indigenous population cant/wont fill and if they can pay their own way. That's the way it should be done. And just to state I don't support the irish undocumented abroad. If they shouldn't be somewhere then kick them out.

But pull out the race card again Hardly, there's a good lad.

Are you like Tony Fearon? When you stop for a fare, do you ask if they're undocumented before you let them in your taxi?

[macdanger2]

A population of undocumented of close to the size of the town of Navan (10th biggest in Ireland and a meath hole) would be granted status.

So your plan is to send these ~ 30,000 "undocumented" living in Ireland back to wherever they came from and you're happy to take the ~ 50,000 undocumented Irish in the US and bring them home??

Then there's the influx of a new cheap legal workforce. Fancy losing your jobs to fellas who will work for half the wages? Won't be so smug then.

Cheap legal workforce? Wouldn't they be subject to the same legal minimum wage as any other workers?? Or are you just fearmongering about "them" taking our jobs

Visas for those who have jobs the indigenous population cant/wont fill and if they can pay their own way. That's the way it should be done. And just to state I don't support the irish undocumented abroad. If they shouldn't be somewhere then kick them out.

So you're basically saying these people should form some sort of underclass in society?? Serfs, if you will

[muppet]

Why does everybody assume all the undocumented don't work?

It is only a page since we assumed the undocumented got free houses and income. The word 'undocumented' should have given a clue there. 

[foxcommander]

Why does everybody assume all the undocumented don't work?

Legally they shouldn't be. Again, do you advocate this practice?

[foxcommander]

A population of undocumented of close to the size of the town of Navan (10th biggest in Ireland and a meath hole) would be granted status.

So your plan is to send these ~ 30,000 "undocumented" living in Ireland back to wherever they came from and you're happy to take the ~ 50,000 undocumented Irish in the US and bring them home??

In a word - yes.
That's an issue for the irish government to solve. They're only too happy to solve issues by forcing the population to look abroad to work.
I take it that you wouldn't want to see displaced irish people return home?  Certainly would be my preference.

[foxcommander]

There are a few rules of thumb that rarely fail when it comes to xenophobia, intolerance and racism. One is that it's always the arseholes the country would least miss if they f***ed away off out of it who are first to tell us about the people THEY think the country could do without.

How you get from "undocumented" to the words you just spouted is beyond me but certainly shows a level of ignorance on your part. Fact of the matter is that whatever race/creed/other the undocumented are they technically shouldn't be in the country. Now shut the hell up with your labelling. It's you who has this on the forefront of your mind and stifle any serious debate on the subject to tackle the issue.

A population of undocumented of close to the size of the town of Navan (10th biggest in Ireland and a meath hole) would be granted status. Last I knew the country was in the shit financially. So the plan would be to do give everyone legal rights to remain and provide them and their families with Healthcare, education, facilities, benefits, housing etc. ?

And you are the boys that can't wait to bring in water taxes for the poorer irish population to pay for stuff. Is this where the money is going to go?
I don't think the country can support the ones they have.

Then there's the influx of a new cheap legal workforce. Fancy losing your jobs to fellas who will work for half the wages? Won't be so smug then.


Visas for those who have jobs the indigenous population cant/wont fill and if they can pay their own way. That's the way it should be done. And just to state I don't support the irish undocumented abroad. If they shouldn't be somewhere then kick them out.

But pull out the race card again Hardly, there's a good lad.

Are you like Tony Fearon? When you stop for a fare, do you ask if they're undocumented before you let them in your taxi?

Stop embarrassing yourself with stupid questions like that.

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[macdanger2]

In a word - yes.
That's an issue for the irish government to solve.

I see. So you're gung-ho about getting rid of all the undocumented who are taking our jobs but you haven't actually thought it through 

I take it that you wouldn't want to see displaced irish people return home?  Certainly would be my preference.

Do I want to force Irish people who have made lives for themselves in the US move home against their wishes?? Ehh......no

Then there's the influx of a new cheap legal workforce. Fancy losing your jobs to fellas who will work for half the wages? Won't be so smug then.

Cheap legal workforce? Wouldn't they be subject to the same legal minimum wage as any other workers?? Or are you just fearmongering about "them" taking our jobs

And no thoughts on how these legal workers would somehow get around the legal minimum wage??

Are you sure you're not Tom D'Arcy, Foxy??  http://www.joe.ie/uncategorized/video-tom-darcy-called-constance-markievicz-a-man-on-rte-news-yesterday-evening/350960??