Sigerson 2015

[rodney trotter]

UUJ and DCU should be a decent game on Wednesday, The 2 O Connors on either team, Cillian and Diarmuid.

[NaomhBridAbú]

I would go to UUJ to access their sports science expertise and the training facilities alone.
Best facilities on the island, probably.

UL would be hard bate as a Sports campus I'd say. Their footballers have done fcuk all for last 10 years mind, despite the amount of talent that has come through there.
DCU have serious facilities.
UCC have the Mardyke Arena now,  which is a fairly top class facility.
UCD have serious facilities.

At the end of the day most universities have facilities that either match or surpass those of the counties - not many counties have facilities to beat the Mardyke Arena - or Queens...nevermind UUJ etc

[supersarsfields]

Take this as fact. Queens have lodged an objection regarding player/players from IT Sligo. Don't know details
IT Sligo counter objection relates to at least 3 Stranmillis students playing for Queens.

Queen's object against Sligo IT Sigerson Cup win Queen's are reported to have lodged an objection against their defeat by Sligo IT in the Sigerson Cup last week.

The Irish News reported on Tuesday that the Belfast university are insisting that Sligo player Stephen Doak was ineligible to play in the Belfast game.

Doak is currently president of Sligo's students union and Queen's assert that sabbatical offers are not permitted to play in the competition.

Sligo are believed to have launched a counter-objection against the QUB team.

It is understood that Sligo contend that Queen's broke competition rule by fielding three players who study at Stranmillis College.

The three players in question - Ciaran O'Hanlon, Tony Donnelly, Greg McCabe - are reported to carry Queen's student cards but there appears to be argument over whether Stranmillis College is regarded as a stand-alone club by the GAA's third-level authorities.

Sligo defeated Queen's 1-9 to 0-8 after extra-time in last Wednesday's game.

Ulster's two other Sigerson Cup hopefuls are in action on Wednesday with Ulster University facing Ryan Cup winners DCU at Jordanstown (14:00 GMT) while NUI Galway will take on St Mary's College at Dangan (15:30).

[Syferus]

If Queens really are getting in a fuss over Doak (freshers manager last year, maybe he still is even, ITSSU president and heavily involved with Gaelic football in the college for years) who has hardly been brought in or is trying to skirt rules they are a joke-shop. Possible the most pathetic case of sour grapes I've seen.

With Queens trying to pull a fast one like that ITS are right to throw it right back at them.

[NaomhBridAbú]

If Queens really are getting in a fuss over Doak (freshers manager last year, maybe he still is even, ITSSU president and heavily involved with Gaelic football in the college for years) who has hardly been brought in or is trying to skirt rules they are a joke-shop. Possible the most pathetic case of sour grapes I've seen.

With Queens trying to pull a fast one like that ITS are right to throw it right back at them.

rules is rules

[Syferus]

If Queens really are getting in a fuss over Doak (freshers manager last year, maybe he still is even, ITSSU president and heavily involved with Gaelic football in the college for years) who has hardly been brought in or is trying to skirt rules they are a joke-shop. Possible the most pathetic case of sour grapes I've seen.

With Queens trying to pull a fast one like that ITS are right to throw it right back at them.

rules is rules

Clearly not when Queens had to appeal. And Queens' situation looks altogether more dodgy.

[AZOffaly]

This competition is a mess, and has been for years. I remember a couple of Kildare lads playing for AIT that hadn't even attended a class there.

[general_lee]

Surely playing 3 Stranmillis students is no different to playing 3 St Mary's students?

I take it though there may be some loophole if Stranmillis no longer offers GAA?

[NaomhBridAbú]

If Queens really are getting in a fuss over Doak (freshers manager last year, maybe he still is even, ITSSU president and heavily involved with Gaelic football in the college for years) who has hardly been brought in or is trying to skirt rules they are a joke-shop. Possible the most pathetic case of sour grapes I've seen.



With Queens trying to pull a fast one like that ITS are right to throw it right back at them.

rules is rules

Clearly not when Queens had to appeal. And Queens' situation looks altogether more dodgy.

CLEARLY at least one team has broken rules, no? And I am fairly certain stranmilis IS not a club alone but part of the QUB set up...unless you are Tommy Joe?

[stronghold]

If Queens really are getting in a fuss over Doak (freshers manager last year, maybe he still is even, ITSSU president and heavily involved with Gaelic football in the college for years) who has hardly been brought in or is trying to skirt rules they are a joke-shop. Possible the most pathetic case of sour grapes I've seen.



With Queens trying to pull a fast one like that ITS are right to throw it right back at them.

rules is rules

Clearly not when Queens had to appeal. And Queens' situation looks altogether more dodgy.

CLEARLY at least one team has broken rules, no? And I am fairly certain stranmilis IS not a club alone but part of the QUB set up...unless you are Tommy Joe?

Stranmillis is a stand alone club competiting in Div 3 football and in ladies competitions. It has the same rights and independence as St Mary's .
Queens lost this case before Christmas at the Higher Education Committee, then lost again at the Central Appeals Committee. Then went to the DRA and lost again. (Must have more money than sense)
Surely you are not suggesting that Queens can pick St Mary's students. Actually in the past before they had their own team Stranmillis students played for St Mary's, Stepen O Neill a good example.

[NaomhBridAbú]

If Queens really are getting in a fuss over Doak (freshers manager last year, maybe he still is even, ITSSU president and heavily involved with Gaelic football in the college for years) who has hardly been brought in or is trying to skirt rules they are a joke-shop. Possible the most pathetic case of sour grapes I've seen.



With Queens trying to pull a fast one like that ITS are right to throw it right back at them.

rules is rules

Clearly not when Queens had to appeal. And Queens' situation looks altogether more dodgy.

CLEARLY at least one team has broken rules, no? And I am fairly certain stranmilis IS not a club alone but part of the QUB set up...unless you are Tommy Joe?

Stranmillis is a stand alone club competiting in Div 3 football and in ladies competitions. It has the same rights and independence as St Mary's .
Queens lost this case before Christmas at the Higher Education Committee, then lost again at the Central Appeals Committee. Then went to the DRA and lost again. (Must have more money than sense)
Surely you are not suggesting that Queens can pick St Mary's students. Actually in the past before they had their own team Stranmillis students played for St Mary's, Stepen O Neill a good example.

fair point - seems though at all colleges are taking the competitive angle right to the line and sometimes well over it...UUJ have 5 players on their 3rd course...some of them getting paid £4k...allegedly

[stronghold]

As already stated by another person it's about time we dealt in fact and not myth. UUJ have no players on a third course. None are getting paid. UUJ have a scholarship scheme same as most of the larger colleges/universities which include fees and accommodation. UCD, UCC, DIT CIT DCU and Queens all have similar. Queens top GAA scholarship is worth 10K as below.

The new Elite Athlete Programme (EAP) at Queens aims to create the right sporting and academic environment for high achieving students to reach their potential. The new programme has been established to attract sporting scholars placing academia and sporting ambition together in equal measure at Queen's University Belfast. The overall package per annum is worth up to £10,000 per student and is designed to support the athlete throughout their time studying at Queen's.

Some of the major benefits will include:

·         £3,000 contribution towards fees

·         Up to £3,000 contribution towards accommodation, international competition and support aids

·         Personalised Strength & Conditioning coaching

·         Sports Medicine and Physiotherapy Support

·         Individual Academic Support and Career advice

[NaomhBridAbú]

As already stated by another person it's about time we dealt in fact and not myth. UUJ have no players on a third course. None are getting paid. UUJ have a scholarship scheme same as most of the larger colleges/universities which include fees and accommodation. UCD, UCC, DIT CIT DCU and Queens all have similar. Queens top GAA scholarship is worth 10K as below.

The new Elite Athlete Programme (EAP) at Queens aims to create the right sporting and academic environment for high achieving students to reach their potential. The new programme has been established to attract sporting scholars placing academia and sporting ambition together in equal measure at Queen's University Belfast. The overall package per annum is worth up to £10,000 per student and is designed to support the athlete throughout their time studying at Queen's.

Some of the major benefits will include:

·         £3,000 contribution towards fees

·         Up to £3,000 contribution towards accommodation, international competition and support aids

·         Personalised Strength & Conditioning coaching

·         Sports Medicine and Physiotherapy Support

·         Individual Academic Support and Career advice

...with £4k being paid on top of that....as far as i am aware there are investigations ongoing into 9 player registrations at UUJ with 5 of those players being on a 3rd course...that said Peter Harte played for St Marys last year as a teacher in St Josephs Donaghmore...go figure....its all a bit of a joke

[TheOptimist]

Sour grapes from McCartan and Co.

He wasn't complaining when he was winning Sigersons with a certain St Galls man as president of Clubs and Societies prominent.

Was standing next to the Queens dugout at the recent McKenna cup game. An awful bunch of moaners altogether.

[muppet]

If even 10% of the allegations being made on this thread are correct then this competition should be suspended indefinitely until the flagrant abuse is stopped.