Paul Earley's Ireland International Rules Squad

[tiempo]

This is a hugely popular competition and always has been. Why do people consistently change the subject to scrapping the series every f***ing time it's played?

Half empty stadiums, brawling and indigenous teams being three of the primary reasons.

[Mike Sheehy]

The facts are undeniable.  Picking players from mayo mean irelands chances of winning in oz were greatly reduced. They loose here flying  them to the far side of the planet doesnt make them winners it just means they loose representing the country instead of mayo. Sad but true.  25m free infront of goals 3 times the size they are normally two clearcut goal chances fluffed. Sure that was the winning of the game..  Facts are such stubborn things

Have you ever heard of the concept of winning as a team and losing as a team ? It is a basic tenet of sport. You should look it up sometime.

[rrhf]

Once Ireland got used to the round ball they improved greatly

[muppet]

Once Ireland got used to the round ball they improved greatly

This is the most sensible observation on this thread.

[seafoid]

Colm O'Rourke's article is very interesting

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/colm-orourke-the-first-two-quarters-yesterday-were-an-embarrassment-for-gaelic-football-30766488.html

"The faults of our game were laid bare in that first half. Handpass, handpass, handpass. It has become institutionalised. Yes, the limit on handpasses from four to six in a row was supposed to help the Australians, and it did, but they got caught several times overdoing it and lost possession, even with the referee counting them out. Who would say that it would not work in our game? Of course there is also the probability that the ball could then be kicked backwards to hold possession, but something has to give

The big change over the years in these matches is that the body shape of both sides now is remarkably similar. Gone are the Aussie beanpoles: the only one near that description was the giant Nic Naitanui, who was useful at the throw-ups at the start of each quarter but a fish out of water otherwise. Now players are runners and more skilful, fitness levels on the Irish side have improved, but the game of Gaelic football has degenerated as a result. "



It's all Tyrone's fault
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P3lhrwio-M

[Syferus]

Go back to sleep Colm.

[Jinxy]

Only 364 sleeps till the next game.

[maigheo]

Really looking forward to Eugene McGees coloum in the sindo tomorrow about the game yesterday.

[armaghniac]

I would see some merit in a handpass limit in Gaelic football though.

[Rossfan]

Ban the effin thing and teach players how to kick the ball.

[seafoid]

Ban the effin thing and teach players how to kick the ball.

I wonder if there is any coach out there who could analyse what the Aussies do better and bring it back to GF so we could move on past the eternal handpass movement and blanket defence stage

[INDIANA]

Ban the effin thing and teach players how to kick the ball.

I wonder if there is any coach out there who could analyse what the Aussies do better and bring it back to GF so we could move on past the eternal handpass movement and blanket defence stage

Well I spent considerable time over there with AFL.

Aussies give their kids experience of all sports in a match orientated environment. They don't do drills.

You will never see a training session with kids lined up behind cones waiting their turn to perform the same drill as the last guy.

Everything is match orientated. Sometimes it looks like madness as you kids giving the ball away endlessly. But after 3-6 months the difference is huge.

Its why the Aussies are world leaders in team sports. You look at their rugby union team yesterday. Game breakers and decision makers everywhere. it didn't win them the game . But they'll be a lot closer to winning the WC next year then ireland will.

The coaches can trust the players to make the decisions on the ball because they have been doing it since they were 6. It makes it very hard to defend against because it's so unstructured and off the cuff.

[lawnseed]

Possibly the most stupid move to develop in our game is the 'lay off' this is where the attacking player goes on a run up the field and its compulsary that he runs toward a series of his team mates who'll position themselves at 20yard intervals up the pitch. The attacker has just time to handpass to each of them as he continues his solo run. This allows time for the opposing side to set up thier blanket defence one of these will eventually tackle the runner who'll probably take a dive or shoot a crazy wide (at least 30m wide) watch any cavan or rosscommon game for extreme examples of this. The best game to watch is where the ball travels up the pitch in about 3 or 4 good kick passes to the chest of a team mate who kicks it onward. (watch crossmaglen or other good club sides) thats why the aussies hammered us because we are playing basketball not football and the rules of the compromise game say you can be tackled after a handpass but you can take a mark after a kickpass we have lost our basic kicking game because we cannot clearly define the tackle. Were we to allow the tackle as per compromise game we'd see more kicking and less handpassing

[manfromdelmonte]

Gaelic Football will eventually come around

though ideas move a lot slower as it is not a professional sport

[Jinxy]

Every year this thing is on we hear the same nonsense.
'They kick the ball better than us'.
They are programmed to kick for the man's chest so he can take the mark.
Play stops.
We are programmed to kick the ball for the man to run onto, thus reducing the risk of his marker getting a hand in and allowing him to open up the space.
Play does not stop.
A good kick in IR is still a decent enough kick in gaelic football, however a good kick in gaelic football is not always a good kick in IR.
That ball that hops in front of you allowing you to gather and burst past the static defender in gaelic football?
IR suicide.