Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[AustinPowers]

Never seen the second half, was there any physically? Was there no 'getting to know you' skirmishes, no break in the momentum to reset, there was none in the first half.

Donegal were poor, and allowed Kerry the ball, gave them far too much respect and tactical were poor.

But if Donegal were poor how bad were the rest? Oh wait they hammered the others, I'd say not just Donegal but Armagh and Tyrone are well off the pace

When Diarmuid O Connor came on there was some "physio checkups by the Donegal boyos

Kerry did the same  to McKernan when he came on in  the semi. Kerry are as cynical as the  rest

[DaleCooper]

If you actually watch it McKernan came on and started it, and it was on his good shoulder

[thewobbler]

Jases now people who enjoy watching football again are "a cult".

Twitter and its "for you" algorithms has done some job on the world.

Even if social media was somehow canned in the morning, it would likely take a generation or two for heavy users to accept that when someone is not 100% with you, it doesn't actually mean they're against you.

[EoinW]

Jases now people who enjoy watching football again are "a cult".

Most people enjoyed watching football in 2024.  It wasn't perfect and we were open to rule changes to get more pace into games and a better offence-defence balance.  Instead the FRC completely changed the game.

Yes some of you are behaving like you're in a cult. "I'm bored with football.  Change the rules or I'm going to drink some Kool Aid"!

I've seen little respect here for the football fans who were happy with where the game was a year ago. Actually it's been six months of endless insults.  Like we're to blame because people like you no longer enjoyed Gaelic Football.

Look how divided football fans are now.  I know the FRC will wait for dinosaurs, like me, to go away.  Then the rest of you can be one big Happy Club.

[Milltown Row2]

What really matters and this may hurt some feelings, is how the actual current players feel how the game is to them. Supporters/fans are way down the list and while it needs supporters turning up, it hasn't affected the turnstiles it seems.

Has there been a poll to get the reaction of how current players feel about the new rules?

[thewobbler]

Jases now people who enjoy watching football again are "a cult".

Most people enjoyed watching football in 2024.  It wasn't perfect and we were open to rule changes to get more pace into games and a better offence-defence balance.  Instead the FRC completely changed the game.

Yes some of you are behaving like you're in a cult. "I'm bored with football.  Change the rules or I'm going to drink some Kool Aid"!

I've seen little respect here for the football fans who were happy with where the game was a year ago. Actually it's been six months of endless insults.  Like we're to blame because people like you no longer enjoyed Gaelic Football.

Look how divided football fans are now.  I know the FRC will wait for dinosaurs, like me, to go away.  Then the rest of you can be one big Happy Club.

Divided?

Apart from a few on this forum (roughly 5 out of a few hundred), I haven't met anyone who prefers the old rules. I'm yet to meet a person face to face who is "divided".

I'm guessing you haven't either.

[OgraAnDun]

Jases now people who enjoy watching football again are "a cult".

Most people enjoyed watching football in 2024 It wasn't perfect and we were open to rule changes to get more pace into games and a better offence-defence balance.  Instead the FRC completely changed the game.

Yes some of you are behaving like you're in a cult. "I'm bored with football.  Change the rules or I'm going to drink some Kool Aid"!

I've seen little respect here for the football fans who were happy with where the game was a year ago. Actually it's been six months of endless insults.  Like we're to blame because people like you no longer enjoyed Gaelic Football.

Look how divided football fans are now.  I know the FRC will wait for dinosaurs, like me, to go away.  Then the rest of you can be one big Happy Club.

I think most people thought it was absolutely shite, a nadir for the sport. Some close results did not mask that virtually every game was horrendously boring for 60 mins before the race for the final score in the last 10 mins.

[Captain Scarlet]

Set aside what fans think. The players seem to be mostly in the big happy club too.

Kevin Feely from Kildare, who loves a fetch, said he wasn't sure he'd have come back as things stood.

[trileacman]

The argument isn't about rule changes vs no rule changes. Certainly not in my eyes. There was a need for rule changes but I unfortunately we got a plethora of rule changes, most not required at all, some with no effect on the least desirable aspect on the game and others which now require more rules introduced because of the effects of the last rule changes.

The committee should have been limited to one or 2 rule changes, with a premium placed on changes that required the least intervention (lines on the pitch, limiting the movement of players etc).

[twohands!!!]

What really matters and this may hurt some feelings, is how the actual current players feel how the game is to them. Supporters/fans are way down the list and while it needs supporters turning up, it hasn't affected the turnstiles it seems.

Has there been a poll to get the reaction of how current players feel about the new rules?

I'd say no-ones bothered to do a poll given how hugely favourable the reaction of current players has been.

Maybe the GPA might do one now intercounty season has ended but I'd guess if you offered a choice between the old rules and new rules you'd probably get 90% plus for the new rules. This is based on talking to current players and what players have been saying in the media.

If you read the reports it's clear as day what the vast majority of GAA folk wanted to see based on the various surveys, the reason the rules were changed and the fact that the vast majority approve hugely of the work the FRC did (and are still doing)

I've met and talked football with a fair few GAA folk from all over the country over the course of these rule changes and the feedback has been massively positive for the most part - a lot of those I met who were the most strongly opposed largely seemed to fall into the category of my county/club were successful under the old rules/I fear we won't be as successful under any rule changes/we were winning under the old rules so they shouldn't be changed.

[Rossfan]

Last year you couldn't watch a match as a neutral.
This year you could watch at all grades and levels.
Most enjoyable games I watched were the Sligo Leitrim TC match and a Boyle v St Brigids Club League game.

The KO part of the Sam became a damp squib because among other things
Kerry were well ahead of the rest and easily beat the next best 3 teams
Dublin and Galway went downwards,
Average teams like Meath, Louth and Cavan qualified

[tbrick18]

Jases now people who enjoy watching football again are "a cult".

Most people enjoyed watching football in 2024.  It wasn't perfect and we were open to rule changes to get more pace into games and a better offence-defence balance.  Instead the FRC completely changed the game.

Yes some of you are behaving like you're in a cult. "I'm bored with football.  Change the rules or I'm going to drink some Kool Aid"!

I've seen little respect here for the football fans who were happy with where the game was a year ago. Actually it's been six months of endless insults.  Like we're to blame because people like you no longer enjoyed Gaelic Football.

Look how divided football fans are now.  I know the FRC will wait for dinosaurs, like me, to go away.  Then the rest of you can be one big Happy Club.

Divided?

Apart from a few on this forum (roughly 5 out of a few hundred), I haven't met anyone who prefers the old rules. I'm yet to meet a person face to face who is "divided".

I'm guessing you haven't either.

Seems to be the consensus on here, but I have a different experience in the real world.
Most people I meet don't subscribe to the new rules are great narrative.
Most will agree, including myself, that some of them are good. The Solo-and go for example seems to have universal approval, and most people are fine with the dissent rules.
The 2 pointers are a mixed bag, some hate them, some love them, some are indifferent. Personally, I don't think they have added anything, but have removed the importance of goals. Removing the 2 pointers and leaving the goals as a 3 points fixes that.
The vast majority of people I've spoken to don't like the kickout rules or the 3 up and everyone I've spoken to thinks the hand the ball over rule is ridiculous.

The point I'm making is, like social media, you tend to only hear the noise made by your immediate "friend group" or algorithm.
The real view is not as clear cut as the pro-frc people would have you think.

[imtommygunn]

It also has become very polarised. You're either for or against them but nowhere in the middle.

FWIW I like them and I have said for a long time McGuinness doesn't play to them. Games have been clawed back all year but Donegal never went for 2 pointers so couldn't do that. Tbf Kerry didn't let them either. Your man on McBrearty knew what he was trying every time and closed him out. He would probably have went for 2s but couldn't get space (plus missed one).

[thewobbler]

It also has become very polarised. You're either for or against them but nowhere in the middle.

FWIW I like them and I have said for a long time McGuinness doesn't play to them. Games have been clawed back all year but Donegal never went for 2 pointers so couldn't do that. Tbf Kerry didn't let them either. Your man on McBrearty knew what he was trying every time and closed him out. He would probably have went for 2s but couldn't get space (plus missed one).

I don't think it's at all polarised.

Pretty much everyone accepts that the game is better now. Apart from a small minority who are determined to make it into an us vs them. Hence the use, recently on this thread, of derisory, inflammatory language such as "cult" and "media brainwashed".

There's just not enough of them to make noise, to actually create a polarised issue.

[Milltown Row2]

It also has become very polarised. You're either for or against them but nowhere in the middle.

FWIW I like them and I have said for a long time McGuinness doesn't play to them. Games have been clawed back all year but Donegal never went for 2 pointers so couldn't do that. Tbf Kerry didn't let them either. Your man on McBrearty knew what he was trying every time and closed him out. He would probably have went for 2s but couldn't get space (plus missed one).

Every view is polarised now, wouldn't matter what your point is, there really is no middle ground, and its not just for grumpy old farts in their 40's 50's lol