Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[EoinW]

People are deluded if they think there's going to be any significant changes to the rules.

The key factor is that attendances for the championship have rebounded significantly compared to a decline of about 10% between 2023 and 2024 numbers.

I saw some article that said there was over a 20% increase in the crowds at the football group stages compared to 2024.

Excellent point!  The reason I'm not expecting much change wise.  Money talks!  That's neither good nor evil, it's simply how life works.  Increased attendance is vindication for the FRC.  I wish they would take the novelty factor into account.

In five years time we'll have a better idea as to what they've created.

[DaleCooper]

People love an oul whinge.

Why not leave it for 5 years? We had a decade of brutal boring football. Its was a long time coming.

The best teams this year are in for Sam, don't think too many would debate that.

People trying to pick and choose forget its a holistic system, with second and third order effects considered and gamed out.

[The Trap]

It's a pity the great Dublin team are being tarnished with playing in the worst period of football ever by some.

Some of the games between them and Mayo were among the greatest ever.

[bennydorano]

How can there be a proper evaluation of the new rules with the non-stop media cheerleading shite? We don't need the Sky Sports hyperbole. Said it numerous times this year we'll have as many poor, decent and good matches no matter the rules and that has occurred imo.

As we've a junior team this year I've been watching them as well, not many high scoring games, most games would pass for the old rules.

Overall, enjoying the year but I'd like to see honest debate in the corridors of power and media.

[tbrick18]

How can there be a proper evaluation of the new rules with the non-stop media cheerleading shite? We don't need the Sky Sports hyperbole. Said it numerous times this year we'll have as many poor, decent and good matches no matter the rules and that has occurred imo.

As we've a junior team this year I've been watching them as well, not many high scoring games, most games would pass for the old rules.

Overall, enjoying the year but I'd like to see honest debate in the corridors of power and media.

Agree 100%.
We were told that the statistics around the benefits the new rules brought would be shared, I haven't seen any stats made public.
I'd love to see the average number of scores per game last year compared to this year - I'd say there's not much difference. 2 pointers skewed the score board.

I've seen plenty of games this year played sideways around the arc for long spells. That's better because?

[Armagh18]

How can there be a proper evaluation of the new rules with the non-stop media cheerleading shite? We don't need the Sky Sports hyperbole. Said it numerous times this year we'll have as many poor, decent and good matches no matter the rules and that has occurred imo.

As we've a junior team this year I've been watching them as well, not many high scoring games, most games would pass for the old rules.

Overall, enjoying the year but I'd like to see honest debate in the corridors of power and media.

Agree 100%.
We were told that the statistics around the benefits the new rules brought would be shared, I haven't seen any stats made public.
I'd love to see the average number of scores per game last year compared to this year - I'd say there's not much difference. 2 pointers skewed the score board.

I've seen plenty of games this year played sideways around the arc for long spells. That's better because?

Scores definitely seem easier to come by, 2 pointer or not.

[tbrick18]

How can there be a proper evaluation of the new rules with the non-stop media cheerleading shite? We don't need the Sky Sports hyperbole. Said it numerous times this year we'll have as many poor, decent and good matches no matter the rules and that has occurred imo.

As we've a junior team this year I've been watching them as well, not many high scoring games, most games would pass for the old rules.

Overall, enjoying the year but I'd like to see honest debate in the corridors of power and media.

Agree 100%.
We were told that the statistics around the benefits the new rules brought would be shared, I haven't seen any stats made public.
I'd love to see the average number of scores per game last year compared to this year - I'd say there's not much difference. 2 pointers skewed the score board.

I've seen plenty of games this year played sideways around the arc for long spells. That's better because?

Scores definitely seem easier to come by, 2 pointer or not.

I'm not sure if they have.
There's certainly not been any increase in goals imo.

We won't know unless they publish the stats though.
But I'd imagine they'll do what a lot of orgs do when they want the stats to back their narrative - they will only measure what they want to so the story is right.

[Armagh18]

How can there be a proper evaluation of the new rules with the non-stop media cheerleading shite? We don't need the Sky Sports hyperbole. Said it numerous times this year we'll have as many poor, decent and good matches no matter the rules and that has occurred imo.

As we've a junior team this year I've been watching them as well, not many high scoring games, most games would pass for the old rules.

Overall, enjoying the year but I'd like to see honest debate in the corridors of power and media.

Agree 100%.
We were told that the statistics around the benefits the new rules brought would be shared, I haven't seen any stats made public.
I'd love to see the average number of scores per game last year compared to this year - I'd say there's not much difference. 2 pointers skewed the score board.

I've seen plenty of games this year played sideways around the arc for long spells. That's better because?

Scores definitely seem easier to come by, 2 pointer or not.

I'm not sure if they have.
There's certainly not been any increase in goals imo.

We won't know unless they publish the stats though.
But I'd imagine they'll do what a lot of orgs do when they want the stats to back their narrative - they will only measure what they want to so the story is right.

Donegal got 0-19 yesterday playing poorly and thats without any 2 pointers as far as I remember. That would have won most games over the last few years and been seen as very good kicking. Theres clearly a lot more space to kick scores, whether or not thats a good thing is up for debate. 

[bennydorano]

With a bit of hindsight now available, they really could have introduced the 3 up rule and left it at that.

Noticed the Armagh v Donegal UF regularly wheeled out as an illustration of the new rules - last year's UF was every bit as good under the old rules.

[trileacman]

How can there be a proper evaluation of the new rules with the non-stop media cheerleading shite? We don't need the Sky Sports hyperbole. Said it numerous times this year we'll have as many poor, decent and good matches no matter the rules and that has occurred imo.

As we've a junior team this year I've been watching them as well, not many high scoring games, most games would pass for the old rules.

Overall, enjoying the year but I'd like to see honest debate in the corridors of power and media.

The media hype is nauseating. That bollix Eamon Sweeney wrote yesterday in the Indo that it was the greatest season in the history of Gaelic football.   


 

[trileacman]

Something has to done about the hooter too. That 90 second spell before half time yesterday where Paudie Clifford solo-ed the ball on the spot is not Gaelic football. I thought the rules were meant to negate the keep-ball possession shite?

[DuffleKing]

With evenly matched teams it is boiling down to the KOs now. The space there is you should have a shot on goal in every attack. Possession football - as demonstrated by Kerry yesterday very well - remains king.

Personally I lament the loss of the "contest" between attacker and defender. The oul defender is hung out now - with the steps rule elasticaed to 9/10 there is literally no way to defend a good forward in the space there now is. I had a wee chuckle at the team of the year player videos last night as half the forwards were shown in slomo overcarrying constantly.

That said, I understand the sales value to the broader masses of big scores, extended attacking highlight reels and the opportunity to put inside forwards on a pedestal. The media aren't missing their chance, that's for sure.

It's early days so things may evolve in some way but good luck with the recruitment and development of defenders going forward. The best man marker in the country was taken for 9 points yesterday on the biggest stage - and in my view he played well.

[DaleCooper]

The x factor here is the player power and fitness.

There is no feasible way for a defender to deal with power and pace of the modern game.

There never really was in the olden days either but now so many forwards have that power. Joe o connor is great to watch as he just busts through any tackle.

[marty34]

Something has to done about the hooter too. That 90 second spell before half time yesterday where Paudie Clifford solo-ed the ball on the spot is not Gaelic football. I thought the rules were meant to negate the keep-ball possession shite?

It was up to Donegal to push out and tackle.

Kerry, as any modern team does now, bided their time and worked the score.

Quite simple really. Donegal, at the other end, would have done the same.

All boils down to the basic skill of kicking the ball over the bar under pressure. 

[Rossfan]

Just to annoy some of the many negative Gaaboarders FRC looking again at the 4 point goal and no playing the ball back across the half way line.