Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

 
Fcukin hell.

[Milltown Row2]

Fcukin hell.

Thems the rules

[ranch]

MR2 might have an explanation for this one?

During the Antrim v Armagh game Jarly Og Burns was tackle around the halfway line just after he played the ball in the first half.
The ref allowed play to continue and didn't signal he was playing advantage. Armagh continued to attack and Soupy Campbell was fouled with a clear push in the back around the 21m line.
The ref then went back and booked the Antrim player for the earlier tackle and Burns, and gave Armagh a free from the spot of that foul.

Given that play had continued why didn't Armagh have the free from where the second clear foul took place? This would've given them a tap over free rather than a feee from the middle of the pitch?

I was watching the match in a bar overseas with no commentary so I'm not sure if this was explained at the time on air.

[Milltown Row2]

So I've mentioned this already and in fairness to commentators they also said there was no hand raise for the advantage, he then blew.. but at the time I don't think he blew for the push in the back... I definitely think his linesman notified him for the tackle after the ball was played so he's decided to bring it back to that one.. was he correct? Technically no but correct in the end

[SpeculativeEffort]

Is football actually better after all this? No defending. Huge scores. Big deficits. Very few games going down to the wire. I'm not convinced at all.

[imtommygunn]

Very few games come down to the wire at this time of year anyway but Kildare Westmeath, to a lesser extent Meath Offaly and a few others have been tight enough which is probably as good we we've ever got. The big tv games have not really been tight mind you.

There will be much tighter games coming soon. There will also be controversy with two pointers / reffing decisions for dissent etc aplenty.

[twohands!!!]

Is football actually better after all this? No defending. Huge scores. Big deficits. Very few games going down to the wire. I'm not convinced at all.

The reason that most games aren't going down to the wire at the moment is a by-product of the rubbish provincial championships where you have teams of wildly differing levels playing each other.

In the league there were a whole rake of tight competitive games even as sides were adjusting to the rules because you had teams of similar ability playing each other.

Once the All Ireland Series and the Tailteann Cup starts and the teams are of a smilar level I would expect the games to become much closer.

There will be much tighter games coming soon. There will also be controversy with two pointers / reffing decisions for dissent etc aplenty.

I don't think there will be that much controversy with two pointers / reffing decisions for dissent etc. when the games get tighter.

Pretty much close to 100% of all of the decisions around this rules I've seen the refs have has been overwhelmingly correct.

Supporters need to stop bitching and moaning about the refs implementing the rules as written and instead start to criticise the utter rank idiocy of the players who give these absolute gifts to the opposition by acting like absolute toddlers on the pitch. Anyone who can't control themselves well enough to not be committing these offences really shouldn't be on a football pitch in the first place. When you see literal school-children following these rules with little to no bother it really exposes any so called adults who break them.

[Captain Obvious]

In the league there were a whole rake of tight competitive games even as sides were adjusting to the rules because you had teams of similar ability playing each other.

Once the All Ireland Series and the Tailteann Cup starts and the teams are of a smilar level I would expect the games to become much closer.

Last year Cavan and Tyrone went to extra time.   Meath v Offaly was a contest of who can score the most two pointers with the wind.

[Rossfan]

On two hands point about Players doing stupid things....
Ref gave a free out for a foul on a Cavan lad. The Tyrone buck instead of walking away decided to interfere with the Cavan man again so Ref brought up the ball.
Totally thick!

[Truthsayer]

In the league there were a whole rake of tight competitive games even as sides were adjusting to the rules because you had teams of similar ability playing each other.

Once the All Ireland Series and the Tailteann Cup starts and the teams are of a smilar level I would expect the games to become much closer.

Last year Cavan and Tyrone went to extra time.   Meath v Offaly was a contest of who can score the most two pointers with the wind.

True dat although Cavan were getting well beaten last year and when Hampsey got black card they raked up a big score during that 10 mins.. maybe 2-2. Yesterday they brought nothing compared to Breffini Park last year...

[ranch]

Is football actually better after all this? No defending. Huge scores. Big deficits. Very few games going down to the wire. I'm not convinced at all.

I agree. It's been a tough watch so far. Tap and go was the only one we needed and possibly the 3 men up if they were adamant that they wanted more space in the forward line. The 2 pointer in particular is a blight on the game.

[Saffron_sam20]

Is football actually better after all this? No defending. Huge scores. Big deficits. Very few games going down to the wire. I'm not convinced at all.

I agree. It's been a tough watch so far. Tap and go was the only one we needed and possibly the 3 men up if they were adamant that they wanted more space in the forward line. The 2 pointer in particular is a blight on the game.

Yeah those 2 would have been plenty.

[Louther]

Yes indeed, no close contests, cause the last decade has seen numerous brilliant close games in the opening rounds of the provincial championships   

[J70]

Anything is better than the way the game was the past few years. And shock horror, elite intercounty level players, stronger and faster and more skilled than ever, can rack up large scores when given the bit of time and space that the new rules have allowed teams to create.

The new rules are fine, two pointers and all.

I watched the 92 Ulster Final last week after I renewed GAA Go (or plus or whatever it is). The amount of relatively aimless long kicking down the field was a bit shocking to see after all these years. And that is a game I remember fondly as a Donegal man and one which was regarded as fairly high quality for its time.

I haven't seen the renowned Derry-Down game from back then, but I must give it a watch to see how it looks to the modern eye.

[onefineday]

Yes indeed, no close contests, cause the last decade has seen numerous brilliant close games in the opening rounds of the provincial championships   

Scores are of course higher as expected, but games to this point in the championship have not been.
Again, not unexpected, this next two weekends should see a number of competitive games and after them we'll be in a much better place to form our opinions.

Fwiw I think we've went to far, change was definitely needed, but our game is becoming a series of possessions which end in shots. Tackling and turnovers are declining, coaches appears to have quickly realized that 2pts are the way forward and the goal is an afterthought.
Anyway, we'll know better in a fortnight, but if we could do one thing now that might help the championship in front of us, I'm torn between the abolition of the 2pt free and the long kickout requirement.