Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[onefineday]

Abolish the small rectangle?

I take it you've never played goals lol

If they want to wander round being an outfield player they should lose their privilege area

 

Though I suppose it'd be a little bit harsh penalising a keeper for not getting his toe under the ball when diving to stop a penno!

I think just no forward into the box at all might be easiest to get police. Like the idea of increasing the size of the penalty area too btw.

[Main Street]

In the Ros v Mon game, the Monaghan goalie clearly caught a  high ball under the post, whilst he was midair a Ros player entered the area, jumped up and slammed the ball from the goalies' grip into the net along with the goalie.The ref awarded a goal.
How was it a goal under the rules? The ball was not in mid air.
I presume the ref thought it was in mid air, that the Ros player got to it before the goalie, he also consulted about the matter with 2 civilians in white coats.

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

Perfectly legal.
You cannot shoulder a goalkeeper in the square but all other legitimate tackling is allowed.

[Armagh18]

Always thought you weren't allowed to touch the keeper in small square at all.

[RedHand88]

Always thought you weren't allowed to touch the keeper in small square at all.

Nah sure a keeper could just run the clock down standing soloing in his square if that was the case.

[Rossfan]

Always thought you weren't allowed to touch the keeper in small square at all.

Cunnane touched the ball with his hand.
Any contact with the goalie was incidental to that tackle on the ball.

[Cavan19]

Always thought you weren't allowed to touch the keeper in small square at all.

Cunnane touched the ball with his hand.
Any contact with the goalie was incidental to that tackle on the ball.

I would like to hear our residents referee's take on this.

I though it was a fair goal.

[Main Street]

So it is allowed to slap the ball out of the goalie's grasp and if the ball goes over the goal line it is a goal?

Even though the rule book just has one exception
"A score may be made by striking the ball in flight with the hand"

[Rossfan]

Loose ball after a tackle crosses line.
Also if goalie or defender carries ball over the goal line = goal.

[Main Street]

Was that a loose ball? The goalie jumped up straight from his line, clearly caught the ball and while mid-air the ball was slapped out of his grasp over the goal line by the ros player.
If it's legal I can accept, but I don't recall any such precedents where the goalie had the ball slapped out of his grasp in such a fashion.
 

[Milltown Row2]

Didn't see it so can't comment on that one, but if a challenge on the ball in the square is done cleanly and its a challenge for the ball, not the keeper then that's ok, in the main the cries of ya can't touch the keeper in the square generally were followed by a ref's whistle, free out.

If a player (in the square or outside the square for that matter) rips the ball from another player its a foul, ya can't do that

If the player made contact with the ball cleanly and after that made contact with the keeper, then that's where it might be up for interpretation, it will be down to how the ref seen it

Whats the difference if the keeper comes out with the ball and its dispossessed as he toe taps the ball or goes to bounce it?

[Rossfan]

It was a clean tackle on the ball. The then loose ball went over the goal line.

Plaudits to Cunnane who followed the ball in, a trait we haven't been noted for.
And to Ref for not going with the lazy " can't go near keeper", free out practice.

[David McKeown]

I thought it was a perfectly good goal under the rules.  I always interpreted any ball not in the control of the player in question to be a ball in flight provided it wasn't on the ground. So you cant kick it up for your self to fist in but can fist it any other format provided there is no other rule break.  I'd also like to see the physics of who actually touches the ball last but you'd need at least a high speed camera for that

[johnnycool]

Teams being able to go back up to 15 players in extra time after having players sent off in ordinary time is kicked to touch in Newry over the weekend.

That was always a strange rule to be fair.

[Main Street]

I thought it was a perfectly good goal under the rules.  I always interpreted any ball not in the control of the player in question to be a ball in flight provided it wasn't on the ground. So you cant kick it up for your self to fist in but can fist it any other format provided there is no other rule break.  I'd also like to see the physics of who actually touches the ball last but you'd need at least a high speed camera for that

This ball was not in flight and was in the full control of the goalie when it was struck out of his hands into the net. What rule are thinking of that favors the ref's decision in this situation?