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Re: Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification
« Reply #495 on: August 10, 2020, 12:03:46 PM »
Did the ref blow before he took shot?

It’s a very grey area on the rules. I personally don’t enforce it unless it’s blatantly obvious, like when they start slabbering  ;D

Seen a few debates on this and most sided with the ref

No. He spotted the lack of gumshield when tbe lad ran back past him.

The rules clearly say you caution a non complaint player

Had he been asked previously to put in gum shield? On that footage there doesn’t seem to be much complaints, he’s running over to sideline to put in the gun shield he should have had in from start!

Either way it’s might cost them against Ballymun in the next match, he’ll be wearing one then I’d hope

But the rules don't allow for a foul to be given, only a booking. You can't overturn a play because he has no gumshield

A referee can stop play if he feels there is a danger to a player... take from that what you want.

I personally wouldn’t have done it but it happens
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« Reply #496 on: August 10, 2020, 02:25:04 PM »
Did the ref blow before he took shot?

It’s a very grey area on the rules. I personally don’t enforce it unless it’s blatantly obvious, like when they start slabbering  ;D

Seen a few debates on this and most sided with the ref

No. He spotted the lack of gumshield when tbe lad ran back past him.

The rules clearly say you caution a non complaint player

Had he been asked previously to put in gum shield? On that footage there doesn’t seem to be much complaints, he’s running over to sideline to put in the gun shield he should have had in from start!

Either way it’s might cost them against Ballymun in the next match, he’ll be wearing one then I’d hope

But the rules don't allow for a foul to be given, only a booking. You can't overturn a play because he has no gumshield

A referee can stop play if he feels there is a danger to a player... take from that what you want.

I personally wouldn’t have done it but it happens

Not sure you are following this...

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« Reply #497 on: August 10, 2020, 02:33:12 PM »
I am... the referee brought back play after noticing a player was not wearing his gum shield.. disallowed the goal and made the player go get his gum shield..

Was he right? Probably not, the decision was taken and he can’t go back on that... move on..

Calls are made incorrectly all the time up and down the country, I got caught out on a couple yesterday, apologised and moved on.

Players also make bad mistakes, like not wearing shields when this rule has been about for a while and it’s there to protect the players. He’ll not forget it again.
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« Reply #498 on: September 14, 2020, 02:45:11 PM »
Say a player plays in a junior final and gets a straight red card but his team wins and so goes to intermediate next year.

The player receives "a one match suspension in the same Code at the same Level, applicable to the next game in the same Competition, even if that game occur's in the following year's competition."

Is that player suspended for the first game in next year's Intermediate championship, or does the suspension not apply because it's at a different level?
And in which case, the suspension would never be served because it would be at least 2 years before the player plays again in an Intermediate championship match.

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« Reply #499 on: September 14, 2020, 03:11:41 PM »
It carries over to the next IFC match. Another good example is an U21 gets a straight red in last ever U21 championship  game, it carries over to next adult championship game in that code .
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« Reply #500 on: September 14, 2020, 03:18:47 PM »
OK, I see how that makes sense practically, but struggling to see how that works given the wording. 
What is the definition of "Level" and "Competition" as used in the rule.

Code obviously refers to football or hurling.

But surely U21 and Senior or not the same Level and Competition?

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« Reply #501 on: September 14, 2020, 04:31:04 PM »
What if a ladies player gets a red card, and get a suspension, then gets married and changes her surname. Could she technically play in the next match under her new name, as the referees report would have her maiden name?

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« Reply #502 on: September 14, 2020, 04:45:29 PM »
What if a ladies player gets a red card, and get a suspension, then gets married and changes her surname. Could she technically play in the next match under her new name, as the referees report would have her maiden name?

Or changes gender? There'll some yoyo's at that no doubt!!
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« Reply #503 on: September 14, 2020, 04:54:11 PM »
What if a ladies player gets a red card, and get a suspension, then gets married and changes her surname. Could she technically play in the next match under her new name, as the referees report would have her maiden name?

Or changes gender? There'll some yoyo's at that no doubt!!

It’s a bit extreme to do that just to avoid a match suspension  ;D

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« Reply #504 on: September 14, 2020, 05:20:02 PM »
OK, I see how that makes sense practically, but struggling to see how that works given the wording. 
What is the definition of "Level" and "Competition" as used in the rule.

Code obviously refers to football or hurling.

But surely U21 and Senior or not the same Level and Competition?

It's likely that a final year U21 is playing senior football in most clubs

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« Reply #505 on: September 14, 2020, 05:36:08 PM »
Any rules against lewd sexual acts commited on the pitch?

The violence was bad enough at the end of the Dublin semi final Ballymun v Crokes, but even more horrific was the disturbing. scene of sexual activity after a peculiar mating ritual in the lead up to this Covid bonking.
 The Ballymun player ended up frantically riding his opponent doggy style as if he had to get it all done and dusted in ten seconds flat. Not even 3 players could pull him away from his task.  A bucket or two of water might have cooled the passion down.

The whole thing kicks off at the 54 second mark

https://www.dublinlive.ie/sport/gaa/watch-ballymun-kickhams-kilmacud-crokes-18928555
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« Reply #506 on: September 14, 2020, 05:43:53 PM »
OK, I see how that makes sense practically, but struggling to see how that works given the wording. 
What is the definition of "Level" and "Competition" as used in the rule.

Code obviously refers to football or hurling.

But surely U21 and Senior or not the same Level and Competition?

It's likely that a final year U21 is playing senior football in most clubs

True.  But I still don't see how that is relevant as the suspension is for that same Level in the same Competition.  If it said the next game in the Code then it obviously would be served in his next game.
Level and Competition are capitalized in the rulebook, so I assume they must be a definition.  I just can't locate those definitions.

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« Reply #507 on: September 14, 2020, 06:09:14 PM »
OK, I see how that makes sense practically, but struggling to see how that works given the wording. 
What is the definition of "Level" and "Competition" as used in the rule.

Code obviously refers to football or hurling.

But surely U21 and Senior or not the same Level and Competition?

It's likely that a final year U21 is playing senior football in most clubs

True.  But I still don't see how that is relevant as the suspension is for that same Level in the same Competition.  If it said the next game in the Code then it obviously would be served in his next game.
Level and Competition are capitalized in the rulebook, so I assume they must be a definition.  I just can't locate those definitions.

Official Guide Part 1 page 128.
Refers to a two week suspension for  a
Red card that is carried over,  outside an age grade, subject to application by respective CCC body .

So an escape is possible dependent on fixtures, time of year

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« Reply #508 on: September 16, 2020, 01:29:02 PM »
Probably been done to death at this stage, but if the keeper kicks the ball out and gets it straight back to him from the defender is it a free or hop ball? Also if the keeper kicks it out and it doesn't cross the 13metre line is that a hop ball or free in?

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« Reply #509 on: September 16, 2020, 01:35:57 PM »
Probably been done to death at this stage, but if the keeper kicks the ball out and gets it straight back to him from the defender is it a free or hop ball? Also if the keeper kicks it out and it doesn't cross the 13metre line is that a hop ball or free in?

Free and the other one is a hop ball
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