Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[thebigfullforward]

Might have to concede on the new rules. Weren't for them when they were introduced but that Dungannon Trillick game along with a few others was unbelievable. Still don't like a few things. 50m penalty given in favour of Dungannon because the Dungannon player won a free and pretty much ran into the Trillick player and wrapped his arm up with the Trillick man lol. That's just a joke you can win frees by doing that. And thinking of that actually a player caught a mark from a kickout and was just pushed over, no attempt to play the ball whatsoever and it wasn't brought forward. Not sure how that works. Hurson also gave a 2 pointer which I don't think anybody in the stand thought went over and he overruled the decision of the umpire to give it.

It would've been a good game anyway but it was end to end all game. Heart in the mouth stuff if you were a supporter of either team though

[Milltown Row2]

Might have to concede on the new rules. Weren't for them when they were introduced but that Dungannon Trillick game along with a few others was unbelievable. Still don't like a few things. 50m penalty given in favour of Dungannon because the Dungannon player won a free and pretty much ran into the Trillick player and wrapped his arm up with the Trillick man lol. That's just a joke you can win frees by doing that. And thinking of that actually a player caught a mark from a kickout and was just pushed over, no attempt to play the ball whatsoever and it wasn't brought forward. Not sure how that works. Hurson also gave a 2 pointer which I don't think anybody in the stand thought went over and he overruled the decision of the umpire to give it.

It would've been a good game anyway but it was end to end all game. Heart in the mouth stuff if you were a supporter of either team though

If a player takes a mark or even catches without claiming it and is impeded the foul is just that. If the resulting tap and go is impeded it's a 50 meter infraction. I thought every one knew that change?

[thebigfullforward]

Might have to concede on the new rules. Weren't for them when they were introduced but that Dungannon Trillick game along with a few others was unbelievable. Still don't like a few things. 50m penalty given in favour of Dungannon because the Dungannon player won a free and pretty much ran into the Trillick player and wrapped his arm up with the Trillick man lol. That's just a joke you can win frees by doing that. And thinking of that actually a player caught a mark from a kickout and was just pushed over, no attempt to play the ball whatsoever and it wasn't brought forward. Not sure how that works. Hurson also gave a 2 pointer which I don't think anybody in the stand thought went over and he overruled the decision of the umpire to give it.

It would've been a good game anyway but it was end to end all game. Heart in the mouth stuff if you were a supporter of either team though

If a player takes a mark or even catches without claiming it and is impeded the foul is just that. If the resulting tap and go is impeded it's a 50 meter infraction. I thought every one knew that change?

What do you mean claim it? As in put up your hand? Because he put his hand up and was then pushed over.

And again why do you always come across so snarky over this stuff? It's a genuine question lol

[Milltown Row2]

Might have to concede on the new rules. Weren't for them when they were introduced but that Dungannon Trillick game along with a few others was unbelievable. Still don't like a few things. 50m penalty given in favour of Dungannon because the Dungannon player won a free and pretty much ran into the Trillick player and wrapped his arm up with the Trillick man lol. That's just a joke you can win frees by doing that. And thinking of that actually a player caught a mark from a kickout and was just pushed over, no attempt to play the ball whatsoever and it wasn't brought forward. Not sure how that works. Hurson also gave a 2 pointer which I don't think anybody in the stand thought went over and he overruled the decision of the umpire to give it.

It would've been a good game anyway but it was end to end all game. Heart in the mouth stuff if you were a supporter of either team though

If a player takes a mark or even catches without claiming it and is impeded the foul is just that. If the resulting tap and go is impeded it's a 50 meter infraction. I thought every one knew that change?

What do you mean claim it? As in put up your hand? Because he put his hand up and was then pushed over.

And again why do you always come across so snarky over this stuff? It's a genuine question lol

It's not snarky, either way it's just a free now, I thought everyone knew this? It's not snarky it's confusing when people come on discuss why something didn't happen and the rule has been in place..

Someone on a live feed was confused about this rule also lately.

I get that the rules have caused confusion but at this stage (championship) people should be well versed on things

[thebigfullforward]

Might have to concede on the new rules. Weren't for them when they were introduced but that Dungannon Trillick game along with a few others was unbelievable. Still don't like a few things. 50m penalty given in favour of Dungannon because the Dungannon player won a free and pretty much ran into the Trillick player and wrapped his arm up with the Trillick man lol. That's just a joke you can win frees by doing that. And thinking of that actually a player caught a mark from a kickout and was just pushed over, no attempt to play the ball whatsoever and it wasn't brought forward. Not sure how that works. Hurson also gave a 2 pointer which I don't think anybody in the stand thought went over and he overruled the decision of the umpire to give it.

It would've been a good game anyway but it was end to end all game. Heart in the mouth stuff if you were a supporter of either team though

If a player takes a mark or even catches without claiming it and is impeded the foul is just that. If the resulting tap and go is impeded it's a 50 meter infraction. I thought every one knew that change?

What do you mean claim it? As in put up your hand? Because he put his hand up and was then pushed over.

And again why do you always come across so snarky over this stuff? It's a genuine question lol

It's not snarky, either way it's just a free now, I thought everyone knew this? It's not snarky it's confusing when people come on discuss why something didn't happen and the rule has been in place..

Someone on a live feed was confused about this rule also lately.

I get that the rules have caused confusion but at this stage (championship) people should be well versed on things

Right just seems strange that the ball is being brought up 50m because a player intentionally ran into an opposition player and wrapped himself up but it isn't for someone deliberately stopping a mark being taken and pushing someone to the ground

[JoG2]

Obviously I'm a new rules apologist.

But the handpassing vs kickpassing data that everyone is zoning in on is blatantly full of holes.

Here's how the 2024 game was played. Team A would kick a short kickout to an unmarked player. Team B would, all 15, retreat inside their own half. Team A would then pass the ball around their own half, uncontested, for up to 2-3 minutes. This passing would involve a mixture of handpasses and lateral kicks, and would always involve multiple kicks backwards to their furthest retreated  teammate, the default manoeuvre once Team B sent 2-3 men up to pretend press. Once team A decided to actually launch an attack, it would involve as few passes as possible, and culminated in either getting a shot away, or kicking it backwards to safety.


Hence I don't believe analysing the kicking to handpassing ratio for 2024 compared to 2025 is relevant.

Just use your eyes folks. It's an immeasurably better sport now than it was a year ago.

Immeasurably better.

Don't fall into the trap of misunderstanding data.

110% Wobbler, could not agree more. Night and day in the GAA

[JoG2]

Might have to concede on the new rules. Weren't for them when they were introduced but that Dungannon Trillick game along with a few others was unbelievable. Still don't like a few things. 50m penalty given in favour of Dungannon because the Dungannon player won a free and pretty much ran into the Trillick player and wrapped his arm up with the Trillick man lol. That's just a joke you can win frees by doing that. And thinking of that actually a player caught a mark from a kickout and was just pushed over, no attempt to play the ball whatsoever and it wasn't brought forward. Not sure how that works. Hurson also gave a 2 pointer which I don't think anybody in the stand thought went over and he overruled the decision of the umpire to give it.

It would've been a good game anyway but it was end to end all game. Heart in the mouth stuff if you were a supporter of either team though

If a player takes a mark or even catches without claiming it and is impeded the foul is just that. If the resulting tap and go is impeded it's a 50 meter infraction. I thought every one knew that change?

What do you mean claim it? As in put up your hand? Because he put his hand up and was then pushed over.

And again why do you always come across so snarky over this stuff? It's a genuine question lol

Snarky and Hutch. Re the 50m free above, you'd have to think Hurson just took his eye off the ball, because any ref in Derry I've spoken to have all mentioned this very tactic of trying to engineer a 50m advantage, and have been told in seminars to keep an eye on this shithousery

[Armagh18]

Might have to concede on the new rules. Weren't for them when they were introduced but that Dungannon Trillick game along with a few others was unbelievable. Still don't like a few things. 50m penalty given in favour of Dungannon because the Dungannon player won a free and pretty much ran into the Trillick player and wrapped his arm up with the Trillick man lol. That's just a joke you can win frees by doing that. And thinking of that actually a player caught a mark from a kickout and was just pushed over, no attempt to play the ball whatsoever and it wasn't brought forward. Not sure how that works. Hurson also gave a 2 pointer which I don't think anybody in the stand thought went over and he overruled the decision of the umpire to give it.

It would've been a good game anyway but it was end to end all game. Heart in the mouth stuff if you were a supporter of either team though

If a player takes a mark or even catches without claiming it and is impeded the foul is just that. If the resulting tap and go is impeded it's a 50 meter infraction. I thought every one knew that change?

What do you mean claim it? As in put up your hand? Because he put his hand up and was then pushed over.

And again why do you always come across so snarky over this stuff? It's a genuine question lol

Snarky and Hutch. Re the 50m free above, you'd have to think Hurson just took his eye off the ball, because any ref in Derry I've spoken to have all mentioned this very tactic of trying to engineer a 50m advantage, and have been told in seminars to keep an eye on this shithousery

Yeah was probably the only issue  I thought of with the solo and go, cute hoors being cute hoors and with the dire standards in Armagh refs would fall for it

[Milltown Row2]

The purpose of the infringement/impeding players was to stop the slowing down of this.

If the referee is not aware of that then he shouldn't be refereeing.

Any player trying to engineer a 50meter free by running into someone will have their free overturned for charging, do that once in the game and it'll prevent anyone doing it again, we all know when it's happening, when someone is deliberately trying to be obtuse in not getting outta the way.

[DaleCooper]

Lavey were up 16-0 against Kilrea at HT due to a strong wind.

Whats the plan to deal with this?

[thewobbler]

Lavey were up 16-0 against Kilrea at HT due to a strong wind.

Whats the plan to deal with this?

Score 17 in the second half?

[DaleCooper]

Its a plan!

[thewobbler]

Anyhow Dale, people need to adjust their heads.

Facing down a 15-point deficit when gaining the breeze isn't the same thing it was pre-2010.

Partly because of the 2 point rule, which immediately makes "old 15 into new 10" and partly because forwards are much more accurate now than they were 15 years ago. They had to become more accurate as they got so few opportunities. The latter aspect will level out a little over the next few years.

[Wildweasel74]

It's a big thing cause the other team know u need a no of 2pts, u not close the gap on single scores and camp out around that line preventing them scores!

[thewobbler]

It's a big thing cause the other team know u need a no of 2pts, u not close the gap on single scores and camp out around that line preventing them scores!

Perhaps. But it would seem the key to creating 2 points opportunities is to reduce your focus on getting them. This is what prevents your opponents camping out around the line.