Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[Smokin Joe]

So it was announced over the tannoy at Mayo Cavan that the hooter would not be in use for the game as it was not televised. Look, we all know this is madness and it has been discussed before.

But also there was a black card during the game, Neary for Mayo got a black just before half time, and with a lot of stoppages and injury time, he was back just after the start of the 2nd half. Isn't it genuinely madness that in games in the same group, a black card in one game with a hooter will mean 10 actual game minutes, and a black card with no hooter can be run down when there are injuries or on other times when the clock would usually be stopped. I just cannot get over how they fumbled the hooter with this to make games so different

I cannot understand the hooter rule when it was in place for the entire league and now they think it should be only used in televised games.

The black card is 10 minutes from issue and that keeps ticking even when there is a clock and it is stoped for injuries.

But in a game with a hooter the clock doesn't keep ticking for injuries.  So in a hooter game a black carded player is off for 10 playing minutes, but in a non hooter game the player is off for 10 clock minutes, as the OP said.
It is crazy that the same rule / punishment is different depending on whether a hooter is in operation or not.

[trileacman]

3:15 in this video. Eoghan Ban wins a fairly easy kickout, gets brushed by a Tyrone lad, wouldn't even be enough for a free yet the ball gets moved forward for a 2 point score. No harm but does winning a ball just outside your own 45 really warrant 2 points? Nonsensical instances like these really frustrate me watching football this year. Games are littered with really unexplainable instances of severe punishments for minor infractions.

[Rossfan]

Tyrone lad needs to brush up on the rules.

[Truthsayer]

3:15 in this video. Eoghan Ban wins a fairly easy kickout, gets brushed by a Tyrone lad, wouldn't even be enough for a free yet the ball gets moved forward for a 2 point score. No harm but does winning a ball just outside your own 45 really warrant 2 points? Nonsensical instances like these really frustrate me watching football this year. Games are littered with really unexplainable instances of severe punishments for minor infractions.

No matter the level of excitement and now a great win... you'll find cause to complain 😆

[Milltown Row2]

I said to players the other night, player makes a mark, count to 5. That will allow space and time.

[manwithnoplan]

3:15 in this video. Eoghan Ban wins a fairly easy kickout, gets brushed by a Tyrone lad, wouldn't even be enough for a free yet the ball gets moved forward for a 2 point score. No harm but does winning a ball just outside your own 45 really warrant 2 points? Nonsensical instances like these really frustrate me watching football this year. Games are littered with really unexplainable instances of severe punishments for minor infractions.

It is a ridiculous rule and in no way does the punishment equate to the level of "offence". Hopefully that particular punishment is done away with when the time comes. This moving the ball forward 50 metres is often a nonsense, there was already a rule to move the ball forward. Should have just enforced that correctly in the first place.

[Milltown Row2]

3:15 in this video. Eoghan Ban wins a fairly easy kickout, gets brushed by a Tyrone lad, wouldn't even be enough for a free yet the ball gets moved forward for a 2 point score. No harm but does winning a ball just outside your own 45 really warrant 2 points? Nonsensical instances like these really frustrate me watching football this year. Games are littered with really unexplainable instances of severe punishments for minor infractions.

It is a ridiculous rule and in no way does the punishment equate to the level of "offence". Hopefully that particular punishment is done away with when the time comes. This moving the ball forward 50 metres is often a nonsense, there was already a rule to move the ball forward. Should have just enforced that correctly in the first place.

Moving the ball 13 meters was always enforced. Players just need to catch themselves on..

Was speaking to a professional footballer today, he said they can say what they want to a ref and literally get away with it, at worst a yellow.

Players have no need to interfere with a free or give off ( rightly or wrongly) to a ref.

Any repercussions of their actions is completely on them

[Rossfan]

Just learn the fkn rules instead if moaning on line.

[David McKeown]

3:15 in this video. Eoghan Ban wins a fairly easy kickout, gets brushed by a Tyrone lad, wouldn't even be enough for a free yet the ball gets moved forward for a 2 point score. No harm but does winning a ball just outside your own 45 really warrant 2 points? Nonsensical instances like these really frustrate me watching football this year. Games are littered with really unexplainable instances of severe punishments for minor infractions.

It is a ridiculous rule and in no way does the punishment equate to the level of "offence". Hopefully that particular punishment is done away with when the time comes. This moving the ball forward 50 metres is often a nonsense, there was already a rule to move the ball forward. Should have just enforced that correctly in the first place.

Moving the ball 13 meters was always enforced. Players just need to catch themselves on..

Was speaking to a professional footballer today, he said they can say what they want to a ref and literally get away with it, at worst a yellow.

Players have no need to interfere with a free or give off ( rightly or wrongly) to a ref.

Any repercussions of their actions is completely on them

As discussed earlier it's a strange one because in the majority of cases guys are genuinely trying to tackle because they haven't realised it's a mark etc. in those circumstances it's far too great a punishment and for me devalues other hard won scores. When it's cynical and to stop a break then it's entirely the correct punishment I feel.

A major problem though is how inconsistently it's refereed. Even at the weekend Hurson was simply giving free kicks from the spot of the foul rather than moving them when there was an infringement whereas as we see in the footage the rule was seemingly being strictly enforced.

[Milltown Row2]

A player catching a ball on the 45 from a kick out is a mark, it's been a mark for years, the repercussions at the time for interfering with a mark was always moving the ball forward, so rather than 13 meters it's now 50.. that's all on the player. He'd be so stupid to give that away when knowing that there was always a infraction..

Stop thinking of the ramifications of doing it and start looking at why players are doing it? It's bonkers

[CK_Redhand]

I think what annoys me about the mark is the player doesn't need to call for it any more by raising a hand. The opponent who is contesting the same ball can then be penalised for interfering with the mark when neither player actually knows if it is given by the ref.

[David McKeown]

A player catching a ball on the 45 from a kick out is a mark, it's been a mark for years, the repercussions at the time for interfering with a mark was always moving the ball forward, so rather than 13 meters it's now 50.. that's all on the player. He'd be so stupid to give that away when knowing that there was always a infraction..

Stop thinking of the ramifications of doing it and start looking at why players are doing it? It's bonkers

I don't think it is always bonkers. It can happen in a wide variety of situations including when a player jumps to contest the kick out and their momentum carries them into the opponent or when they have a different interpretation of how far 4 meters is.

[Milltown Row2]

A player catching a ball on the 45 from a kick out is a mark, it's been a mark for years, the repercussions at the time for interfering with a mark was always moving the ball forward, so rather than 13 meters it's now 50.. that's all on the player. He'd be so stupid to give that away when knowing that there was always a infraction..

Stop thinking of the ramifications of doing it and start looking at why players are doing it? It's bonkers

I don't think it is always bonkers. It can happen in a wide variety of situations including when a player jumps to contest the kick out and their momentum carries them into the opponent or when they have a different interpretation of how far 4 meters is.

A player falling onto someone isn't deliberately trying to prevent a quick 'mark' or free.. the ref has to know the difference. 4 meters  is easy..

A supporters perception on how he sees the rules being applied are not up for debate really.. as the ref will use his own judgement

[Stall the Bailer]

I think what annoys me about the mark is the player doesn't need to call for it any more by raising a hand. The opponent who is contesting the same ball can then be penalised for interfering with the mark when neither player actually knows if it is given by the ref.

The referee blews the whistle for every Mark and there never has been a rule to say the player had to signal for a Mark when they wanted to play on.

[Smokin Joe]

I think what annoys me about the mark is the player doesn't need to call for it any more by raising a hand. The opponent who is contesting the same ball can then be penalised for interfering with the mark when neither player actually knows if it is given by the ref.

The referee blews the whistle for every Mark and there never has been a rule to say the player had to signal for a Mark when they wanted to play on.

In fact it's the opposite.  If you put your hand up it means you are claiming the mark, and so you can't play on and therefore have no chance to be impeded to gain the additional 50m.  So a player catching the mark now should almost never put his hand up and claim the mark, IMO.